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    How will my colt change as he ages?

    I just acquired a new colt. He is 10 months old. When he was born he had the coloring of a paint. muted brown and white. I was told perlino paint. He has bright blue eyes with red around them. His dam is a grey Arabian Welsh cross and sire a TB(unknown color). Also was told he potentially has copy of the grey gene. What color will he end up being? Will his eye color change as he ages? will the red around the eyes disappear as he ages?Is there a way to attach his picture for all to see. Any input appreciated.
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      You can use any free uploading photo site like FB, flicker,webshots etc and just post the link to pic here.

      Sounds like an interesting colour and colt. Will be interesting to see pics.

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        There's a lot going on there in that description of your colt and his parents! While someone could probably come up with a scenario in which a grey Arabian Welsh cross and a thoroughbred could be the parents of a Perlino paint, it seems like there might be some misinformation there. From which parent did the paint spots come? Also, in order to be Perlino, both of his parents would have to be a dilute of some sort (palomino, buckskin, or smoky black). The grey could be dilute underneath the grey. Dilute thoroughbreds do exist, but they are fairly uncommon.

        However, with the blue eyes your colt has something going on! If they are blue at 10 months I think they will stay blue. Paints who have white faces can often have blue eyes. The red is likely to be irritation – if it were summer, I would say it was most likely to be sunburn. It will be difficult to keep that area covered in the summer to keep it from burning, but you can use a fly mask. I might want a vet to look at red around a horse's eyes in the winter/early spring.

        Anyway, I'm curious and I hope you get a photo account set up so you can post pictures of your young guy!
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        • #5
          If he has a copy of the gray gene, he will be gray.

          Agree with JoZ about having his eyes checked. Have fun with him!

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            How will my colt change as he ages..Posted links to pictures

            http://i1083.photobucket.com/albums/...psmvdzevvi.jpg

            Just wanted to clarify...his lids around his eyes are red...not from irritation, they have been this way since birth. I really appreciate all comments

            http://i1083.photobucket.com/albums/...psvb1q5adw.jpg

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              Here he is today.....A very dirty little boy

              http://i1083.photobucket.com/albums/...psmn9ulcug.jpg

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              • #8
                He's growing up nicely, from what I can see in his older picture. If I had to guess in terms of color, I would say that he is a palomino pinto. And that his mother also is a palomino pinto but with the grey gene both the color and the pattern have been lost to an overall grey/white coat. It's not always easy to tell if a foal is going to turn grey, but I would imagine it's even harder to tell with a beige and white face! Grey hair around the eyes would look remarkably like white hair around the eyes. Being a fan of pintos, I'd be hoping that the colt did not grey out. But if mom passed along a grey gene, he will turn grey – one is all it takes.

                Of course the story might be wrong about the sire, and he could be a palomino or buckskin or smoky black pinto! But if he's a thoroughbred, odds are that he is a solid color and not dilute. Tobiano pattern, which is what he is, neither hides nor skips generations, so one of the parents has or had spots, that much is certain.

                I'm looking at the pictures on my phone but even so, I don't think I'd be able to see much about your colt's eyes. If you mean pink skin, as opposed to red, around his eyes – yes that is common with white faced pintos especially those with blue eyes. If it's really red, something that would indicate inflammation, I would check with the vet even if he has had it since birth.
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                • #9
                  If the sire is a registered tb and you know his name you can easily look him up and see what color he is registered as.

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                  • #10
                    Well that is certainly an interesting color!

                    Like others have said - he had at least a 50% chance of getting grey from his dam - so he might go white.

                    If he doesn't he will stay the color he is. The skin will stay pink whether he goes grey or not. Same with the blue eyes.

                    That said - as others have also pointed out, light skin, especially on the face around the eyes and nose is really prone to sunburn, and are at risk for skin cancers. Its a good idea to provide UV shielding fly masks for horses with light skin, and sunscreen on exposed noses etc in the summer.
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                    • #11
                      I know I am being fussy, but a paint is a breed. Pinto is a color. As your colt has no paint breeding he is a pinto.
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                        How will my colt change as he ages

                        Thank you all for the input...greatly appreciated....

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                          Originally posted by JoZ View Post
                          Tobiano pattern, which is what he is, neither hides nor skips generations, so one of the parents has or had spots, that much is certain.
                          Actually, I believe this horse is tovero, not tobiano.
                          http://www.apha.com/breed/tovero

                          Originally posted by skykingismybaby1 View Post
                          I know I am being fussy, but a paint is a breed. Pinto is a color. As your colt has no paint breeding he is a pinto.
                          Not fussy! When someone tells me their horse is a Paint, I think breed. Then I see the picture, and it's a mini or a gypsy horse! Most Paints are pinto, but most pintos are not Paints.
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                          • #14
                            Tovero is very very out dated.

                            He carries tobiano and another white gene (Frame, Splash, Sabino....ect). Those genes don't skip generations...sometimes you just can't see them. They still exist though
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                              If my colt is to grey out....and I'm hopefull he does not. I'm very much a pinto lover.....at what age or how soon should I expect this to take place.....would it be safe to say if he hits 2 years of age and stays the pinto color, he will not grey out?

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                              • #16
                                There's no fixed threshold on when they'll start to gray. I would be surprised if he hasn't started to show signs of graying by 2, but on such a light colored horse the early stages may be difficult to see.

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                                  For $25, you can have your foal tested by UC Davis to see if he carries the grey gene. http://www.vgl.ucdavis.edu/services/horse.php

                                  Usually you can see a "halo" of grey/white hairs around the eyes even at this age if they are going to go grey, but given that he's a pinto and very pale, it's hard to see in this case.

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