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  • #41
    Originally posted by maketo View Post
    What towns specifically? Thanks!
    From your description, the Cookeville/Crossville area and surrounding towns may be very appealing to you. Cookeville is about 1.5 hours from both Nashville and Knoxville. Crossville is a little closer in the direction towards Knoxville. Cookeville and Crossville are both little cities (really, big towns) with your essentials.

    And no, the area is not "crawling" with riders. Not at all. There is a healthy trail riding community, but otherwise the area is not particularly horsey at all.

    You would be about an hour from Big South Fork in either location, with quite the number of other major trail riding locations within a few hours.

    Just a cursory glance of some real estate within a 30 mile radius of Cookeville, under $400K, with at least 20 acres:

    http://www.crye-leike.com/cookeville...5.499804-st-20

    High speed internet is going to be your biggest problem. It's available in the city limits and along major roadways, but properties out in the sticks aren't going to have it. You'll just need to ask and not assume.
    Last edited by Texarkana; Feb. 24, 2015, 11:37 AM. Reason: added a "k" to "ask"
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      #42
      Originally posted by HungarianHippo View Post
      How about this:
      1. Google a list of state parks with equestrian trails, for the states you are willing to consider. That list seems fairly set in stone, based on climate (i.e. nothing above southern tier).

      2. Look at a map to determine proximity to population centers and judge if the towns have the density/amentities that you require. For the state parks that make that initial cut, write down what counties those parks are in.

      3. Go to www.landwatch.com and other realty sites to search for equestrian properties or suitable unimproved land in those states/counties, putting in your minimum acreage and 400k price cap. Decide if you have some likely prospects there.

      4. With that legwork done, a COTH query about a few specific places, to get a more subjective feel for what the horse scene is like, might be more productive.
      Hello, thanks. I have been at this for a while now and have a fairly good idea of what is available. My OP said 4-seasons and if there have to be only 2 seasons, then heat is preferable. We have lived in FL and I am OK with the weather (even though there is rain), however, places like Ocala do not appeal because of all the horse people running in the forest. Appalachicola around Tallahassee is OK, however, very difficult to find something close to forest within price range. NM we know well and my only deterrent is the rampant crime, however, I may be willing to deal with that since everything else is right on the money. I also worry about the quality of medical care in NM - ABQ and Las Cruces are the only two places with proper choices and I worry about the famous "manana" attitude there. Maybe South NM would be better since closer to El Paso. Information on riding in TX is hard to come by, the grasslands website for the National Forest does not really say much but the post in response to my question was a good lead - I always thought the grasslands were kind of flat and boring so I did not really consider them, however, after that post I googled more and apparently they can be very pretty. Alabama doesn't have much in terms of public riding lands, neither do Mississippi or Louisiana. Texas is only 4% public lands and most of them are in Big Bend area (about 1.1 million acres between the National Park and State park) and we have actually considered moving there. Problem with that area is wells are 1000+ feet deep and no guarantee you will hit one (at $30+ a foot that's an expensive experiment), hay is expensive since it has to be trucked in and the closest town in Alpine with 5,000 people. The closest REAL city is Midland/Odessa 2-3 hours away. Same with Silver City in NM. Arkansas and MO are not very interesting to us for various reasons (mostly the culture). Someone mentioned California and that led me to Reno, NV area - any experiences here? Close to forests and Cali.... Thanks!

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      • #43
        Originally posted by Calamber View Post
        No way are you going to find 20 acres with a good house in Northern Virginia for $400,000. The other areas yes, I might add Central Virginia would work too but to get to a small or larger city with good doctors (closest large city is DC) is more problematical. I have been scanning areas in Maryland and Pennsylvania found a beautiful 40 acre farm in Pa but don't know anything about the towns/cities within your range.

        http://altoona.craigslist.org/reo/4866843917.html
        Probably not NoVA proper, but you could find something south or west of Warrenton, VA for approximately that amount that more or less fits your qualifications. There is still easy access to plenty of horse events/facilities/parks. My mother has high speed cable internet (faster than mine in DC) and is about 1 hr. 15 min. drive to DC (much longer during rush hour but I only head out there during off times). A neighbor's home on ~15 acres, already 3 board fenced w/ a cute barn/run ins, well maintained 3BR/2BA home (not brand new, but doesn't need anything) just sold for around $400K. While there are people who do driveto DC from the community, it's really outside normal commuting range, which tends to suppress prices. FYI, hay is cheap in this area, and if you have enough land, you probably only need to hay in the winter.

        Mom makes the trip into DC frequently so we can hit some restaurants or free museums.

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        • #44
          Doesn't the culture of the area matter at all? For example, the culture of Oregon is so much different than the culture of Missouri, or West Virginia in very rural areas.
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          • #45
            Originally posted by SMF11 View Post
            Doesn't the culture of the area matter at all? For example, the culture of Oregon is so much different than the culture of Missouri, or West Virginia in very rural areas.
            SO true. I'd hope the OP would spend some time in any area being suggested before making the move!
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              #46
              Originally posted by SMF11 View Post
              Doesn't the culture of the area matter at all? For example, the culture of Oregon is so much different than the culture of Missouri, or West Virginia in very rural areas.
              Most definitely. We are both educated and we try to shy away from "wild" behaviors. Generally we try to stay away from hunters, ATVs etc.

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              • #47
                Originally posted by Nootka View Post
                West Virginia? It is beautiful and not expensive. Southern Va would be an area I would consider. Lots of land

                Don't know about horse stuff built on this one.. but you get the idea (this is South VA)
                http://blacksburg.craigslist.org/reb/4889396669.html

                sounds interesting..... lol. I see fencing in one pic
                http://swva.craigslist.org/reo/4897346321.html

                this is cute and winchester is a great town. Must not be a horse person. She doesn't give good information on the facilities...lol. (yes, I do see the snow It isn't in a major snoo part of VA. Just a few inches a year.)

                http://winchester.craigslist.org/reo/4868621788.html

                Sorry I was fairytale shopping for myself
                I was looking at that Winchester one for us also but the farm behind it is not part of it.
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                • #48
                  We are in Camden, SC - home to the South Carolina Equine Park, the Carolina and Colonial Steeplechases, the National Steeplechase Museum, winter home to many flat and jump trainers/owners/riders, not to mention the Camden Hunt. Very strong H/J community plus many other disciplines. Take a look at the links above.
                  Plus we have The Tack Room (a huge, wonderful shop) lots of feed stores, hay suppliers most offer basic tack supplies.

                  Camden is 1.5 hours from Charlotte, NC - where I used to work. Around 40 minutes to Columbia, Florence and Sumter, SC. About 2.5-3 hours to Myrtle Beach, Charleston and Greenville-Spartanburg, areas. Aiken is roughly 1+ hours, depending on traffic. Southern Pines, NC is about 1.5-2 hours. Raleigh, NC is about 3 hours.
                  We have the Revolutionary War site, Blues Festival several local very unique Christmas Parades, active airport with a rich history next to the local Military School and a wide variety of characters - homegrown and transplants.

                  Lots of horse friendly land all around Camden. We are still on satellite TV and DSL internet because of our location, but the cable companies are getting closer to us in the boonies.

                  Granted this is a very small city, especially in the summer when the snow birds head north. Winters are usually mild, although we have a dusting of snow plus sleet for the next several days. But we are supposed to be back in the high 50's low 60's by early next week - so winters are like a roller coaster ride.
                  To be brutally honest summers are long, humid and hot. Expect 90-95+ temps from July to early September.

                  Check it out.
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                    #49
                    Originally posted by fooler View Post
                    We are in Camden, SC - home to the South Carolina Equine Park, the Carolina and Colonial Steeplechases, the National Steeplechase Museum, winter home to many flat and jump trainers/owners/riders, not to mention the Camden Hunt. Very strong H/J community plus many other disciplines. Take a look at the links above.
                    Plus we have The Tack Room (a huge, wonderful shop) lots of feed stores, hay suppliers most offer basic tack supplies.
                    What are the actual trail riding opportunities in the area, ones that don't see groups of people all over the place? To me the more horse people there are, the less enticing the area is. Sounds strange but I have my reasons

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                    • #50
                      Originally posted by JanM View Post
                      Aiken area? Or some of the other areas in SC, since you don't want to be right in town. Some of the areas in NC, near the Blue Ridge parkway might be good for you also, since you don't want to be right in town.
                      There are still some very rural areas of SC that are affordable and horse friendly. Greenville area is nice and still reasonable prices from what I know but don't quote me on that.
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                      • #51
                        Originally posted by maketo View Post
                        Most definitely. We are both educated and we try to shy away from "wild" behaviors. Generally we try to stay away from hunters, ATVs etc.
                        You'll want to avoid Tennessee. and South AL. and North FL.

                        Personally I think you're looking for a unicorn.

                        You want hot and not many people? try Mississippi.

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                        • #52
                          So you want a horsey area(ie: professionals like vets/farriers) with trails that do not get used, country/woodsy but nothing "wild" ie hunters etc and you need to be semi close to civilization for high speed internet. Best of luck, I too think you are searching for a unicorn. Mississippi is to wild for them PBP.

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                          • #53
                            Nevada County, California! Mr. PoPo works from home, we have high-speed internet, an arena on our property, tons of trails about where you can ride without seeing many people and you won't have hunters or ATVs or anything like that. Lots of horsey people, but not the show-type (lots of trail riders) per se. Great weather. Close enough to Sacramento that you can do whatever kind of shopping you want (or even drive to SF for a 3-hour drive), yet rural enough that you get that country feel. Good schools, good "culture" (we have a Center for the Arts that puts on concerts and various shows, Music in the Mountains at the beautiful fairgrounds, surprisingly we have three great sushi restaurants!), good people. If you want to see snow, you can go to Tahoe. There are lots of nice places close by for day trips for hiking or riding or fishing at a lake or birdwatching or going to the river or whatever you want. Good vets (UC Davis is 1.5 hours away, but there are good vets in town and a closer clinic), feed stores, other resources.

                            Personally I love the topography of the Sierra Nevada foothills, but if you like flat then you can find some of that, too (Grass Valley, Penn Valley).

                            Thing is, I don't think you could find 20 acres for $400k - at least not with a decent house or horse amenities.

                            You asked about Reno, NV. Personally, it is too desert for me - not enough trees, very wide open spaces, dry, and just not pretty. But that's me and what I like. I know they have lots of horse stuff there, too, and the cost of living would be less I think.
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                            • #54
                              Originally posted by Calamber View Post
                              I was looking at that Winchester one for us also but the farm behind it is not part of it.
                              Are you serious??? Then what would be the point? Man!!!! that is false advertising...lol

                              I really love the Winchester area. If I was to move back to VA I think that is where I would look
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                              • #55
                                Originally posted by maketo View Post
                                ...To me the more horse people there are, the less enticing the area is. Sounds strange but I have my reasons
                                You won't get good selection of equine vets in non-horsey areas and it will matter, when the time comes and you need one.

                                Since you both work from home, perhaps, you might be able to make up your schedule and ride in times, when hardly anyone else is riding, if empty woods are that important to you.

                                I usually don't ride on Saturdays for instance, because it is so difficult to find parking at places I go. I can ride during the week, so I am more than willing to stay home or school in the arena then and allow others to take up the space.

                                What are you riding anyway, that you don't want to share trails? A zebra?

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                                  #56
                                  Originally posted by Pocket Pony View Post
                                  Nevada County, California! Mr. PoPo works from home, we have high-speed internet, an arena on our property, tons of trails about where you can ride without seeing many people and you won't have hunters or ATVs or anything like that. Lots of horsey people, but not the show-type (lots of trail riders) per se. Great weather. Close enough to Sacramento that you can do whatever kind of shopping you want (or even drive to SF for a 3-hour drive), yet rural enough that you get that country feel. Good schools, good "culture" (we have a Center for the Arts that puts on concerts and various shows, Music in the Mountains at the beautiful fairgrounds, surprisingly we have three great sushi restaurants!), good people. If you want to see snow, you can go to Tahoe. There are lots of nice places close by for day trips for hiking or riding or fishing at a lake or birdwatching or going to the river or whatever you want. Good vets (UC Davis is 1.5 hours away, but there are good vets in town and a closer clinic), feed stores, other resources.

                                  Personally I love the topography of the Sierra Nevada foothills, but if you like flat then you can find some of that, too (Grass Valley, Penn Valley).

                                  Thing is, I don't think you could find 20 acres for $400k - at least not with a decent house or horse amenities.

                                  You asked about Reno, NV. Personally, it is too desert for me - not enough trees, very wide open spaces, dry, and just not pretty. But that's me and what I like. I know they have lots of horse stuff there, too, and the cost of living would be less I think.
                                  Thanks - this sounds about like what we want! We may be able to stretch the budget to 450K...

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                                    #57
                                    Originally posted by Emilia View Post
                                    You won't get good selection of equine vets in non-horsey areas and it will matter, when the time comes and you need one.
                                    My wife is a vet

                                    Originally posted by Emilia View Post
                                    Since you both work from home, perhaps, you might be able to make up your schedule and ride in times, when hardly anyone else is riding, if empty woods are that important to you.
                                    Yeah that's what we have been doing now but we are in TX and not much public riding land around here. Trying to get out...

                                    Originally posted by Emilia View Post
                                    What are you riding anyway, that you don't want to share trails? A zebra?
                                    It is not us, our horses are good and well behaved. It is that I abhor many stupid and crazy horse people. There were instances of folks literally running into me and my horse at a canter because they could not control the animal. They would not even apologize afterwards even though, honestly, they deserved a beating. Or we used to go to a public arena to ride (this was in Palm Beach county, FL) and some psycho shows up with a young filly and just lets her run "off leash" in the same arena you are in... You point out that this is not allowed and they say "thank you" and ignore you like you are the stupid one. Basically saying "you can't touch me, f u". I just can't take the ignorance and the rudeness anymore and want to be as far away as possible from idiots. Anyways, sorry for the rant, please do not reply, I am just interested in finding that one place I am looking for

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                                    • #58
                                      Abingdon, VA. Asheville, Roanoke, Kingsport are an hour or two away. National Forests nearby. Barter Theater and William King Museum/ Arts Depot for culture. Bristol Motor Speedway if you like that stuff. Four seasons, but not too humid. Right off of I-81 so easy travel. We've lived many places and like the quiet and safe feeling in this area. More than a few retirees. The New River has world class bass fishing. Had my first moonshine here, too. It was lovely. :-) We have a great vet, bluegrass pastures, and happy horses.

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                                      • #59
                                        Originally posted by maketo View Post

                                        It is not us, our horses are good and well behaved. It is that I abhor many stupid and crazy horse people. There were instances of folks literally running into me and my horse at a canter because they could not control the animal. They would not even apologize afterwards even though, honestly, they deserved a beating. Or we used to go to a public arena to ride (this was in Palm Beach county, FL) and some psycho shows up with a young filly and just lets her run "off leash" in the same arena you are in... You point out that this is not allowed and they say "thank you" and ignore you like you are the stupid one. Basically saying "you can't touch me, f u". I just can't take the ignorance and the rudeness anymore and want to be as far away as possible from idiots. Anyways, sorry for the rant, please do not reply, I am just interested in finding that one place I am looking for
                                        I also abhor stupid and crazy people and honestly I've never had a bad encounter here with other riders or with mountain bikers (one place I go is a state park that gets a decent amount of walkers, mountain bikers, and horses but once you get past the first part of the main trail you won't see anyone) or hikers or dog walkers or anyone. We're near Tevis country so trail riders are pretty savvy and smart. The only stupid thing I encounter is people who can't for the life of them park their trailers appropriately.

                                        If you're open to California, look in Nevada County, Placer County, El Dorado County. We've got Tahoe National Forest and El Dorado National Forest trails to ride in and it is a great place to live! While I understand wanting 20 acres for privacy (in addition to room for horses), if you open up your search to fewer acres, you might be surprised that you can still get something quiet and private. Because of the topography here, you can get a really nice 5-acre place where you don't see any neighbors because of hills and trees. If you're somewhere flat, you could have 20 acres and still see neighbors, but in the hills, you could get away with fewer.

                                        (Having said that, we're moving to Bend, Oregon to be with family.)
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                                        • #60
                                          Parts of both VT and NH could fit your bill. Google GMHA

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