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    Talking to a horsey friend today made me think about things I used to do but don't any more.

    I no longer pull manes or tails- most of my horses have hated it, it hurts my hands and I can do just as good a job with clipper blades/a solo comb.

    I don't use haynets any more either- I feed it from the floor out of big flat trugs.

    I don't sweep as much as I used to, either. I love a spotless yard but a few bits of hay about the place never hurt anyone, right?
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    I stopped pulling manes yrs ago and did the same thing for years with a clipper blade or razor blade. To be honest, I got tired of even grooming and trying to brush mud out of my horses manes when I retired them from riding and started roaching manes twice/yr. Loved the look and the ease of cleaning.

    When the horses are barefoot all around, there isn't much that gets stuck so a lot of hoof picking is eliminated. Uh, before someone jumps on this to rant, please do NOTE that I said 'a lot', not all.....

    Since I put my last horse down in April 2014 there's a lot I don't do anymore at all, like have to clean stalls. Barn aisle still does get swept but not as much since only the mowers use the aisle.

    Would love to figure out a way to get the die-hard English House Sparrows to leave the barn completely and not make any more nests or drop anymore feces in the barn aisle, stalls, and indoor. Getting rid of all hay helped a lot but the little buggers go out and bring in grass clippings to build nests.
    Last edited by msj; Feb. 17, 2015, 10:54 AM.
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    • #3
      We used to clip ears and muzzles as well as bridle paths and legs all the time. Now I don't do the muzzles or the legs, just about an inch of the bridle path where the headstall sits and any ear fuzz that sticks out of the ear.

      I also used to use polo wraps all the time, but now just velcro boots on the fronts - no washing, detangling, rolling and wrapping anymore!

      I used to spend hours cleaning laced reins (ugh), but now I have a lovely pair of Wintec reins that are really comfortable and grippy, and wipe down in seconds.

      I used to haul warm water to the barn in winter, break ice on the water troughs and find frozen mice in the water buckets. Now I live in southern California!

      I used to skip sunscreen and not always wear a helmet. Now I realize that brain injuries and skin cancer are not worth the risk.
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      • #4
        My horses don't wear boots for riding anymore. I've managed to keep them at home for 10 years, trail ride over hither and yon, school and compete in dressage and eventing, take lessons, etc. without getting an injury from not wearing boots (knock wood because I *am* superstitious!).

        I don't pull manes.

        I don't clean tack as much as I used to.

        I started wearing a Tipperary helmet instead of my CO for every ride.

        I don't clip and blanket in the winter.
        "A horse's face always conveys clearly whether it is loved by its owner or simply used." - Anja Beran

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        • #5
          I quit blanketing, too. My horses seem happier.

          I used to stress out over every nick and scrape. Now my reaction is "Well, it's a long way from their heart." (I figure if it works for my vet it can work for me.)

          It's amazing how your point of view changes when you don't want to show anymore. I don't trim manes anymore, but do a small bridle path. I do trim whiskers, but that's about it. I clean my tack periodically, but no longer after every ride. No more polo wraps, and not even boots if I'm going out on the trail.

          I'm still a stickler for a clean barn and trailer.

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          • #6
            Don't pull manes, don't clip, all are barefoot, I rarely put boots on them, I don't bathe them as often as I used to; however, I keep the stalls picked 2x daily and sweep the aisle 2x daily but don't dust nearly as often as I should.

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            • #7
              My views on stabling 24/7. I would not board at a place with such circumstances.

              I came from a city riding club and, in young years, did not give a second thought on horses spending the majority of the day in the stall.

              We exercised everyone daily, in all weather (have frost bites on toes to prove it), but still.

              When I look back on that time, I do not feel guilty, because there was not any other option in that place, but I do wonder, why it did not bother me more.

              I used to think, it was normal that the first canter of the day was peppered with a bucking spree... or a relatively high occurrence of colic...

              I also changed my views on longeing. I used to consider it absolutely essential, but dropped it, when facing the fact that our riding horse did not enjoy it at all.

              Watching a horse going through moves at the end of line like a machine (while obviously counting in his head, when the BS will be over) takes all the fun and, IMO, even training value out of it.

              Finally, I no longer blanket, I feed humongous amounts of hay instead (especially, during storms like the one we had yesterday).

              I do keep the blankets, however, for times, when our horses will get older and might need them.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by saddleup View Post

                I used to stress out over every nick and scrape. Now my reaction is "Well, it's a long way from their heart." (I figure if it works for my vet it can work for me.)
                Do we have the same vet?!
                "A horse's face always conveys clearly whether it is loved by its owner or simply used." - Anja Beran

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                • #9
                  I stopped blanketing
                  I don't shoe the hind and go barefoot in the winter
                  I bang tails and brush them instead of handpicking and braiding with better results
                  I don't use splint boots
                  I don't feed grain

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                  • #10
                    I came from places with limited land, so was used to minimal turnout. That now seems horrible to me, my mare is out 24/7. Even the barns that keep them in for 48+ hours at a time because there is bad weather now seems unacceptable.

                    A few years ago I learned to trim manes so they look pulled. Saves my hands, sanity, equine sanity.

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                    • #11
                      We used to keep all school and show horses inside, in tie stalls and box stalls and they were fine.

                      We did take them out several times a day, every day and they would go back to their spot in a tie or box stall on their own, it was their chosen spot in life.
                      That is horses for you.

                      In all the many years under that management, we only had one mild colic, from hundreds of horses we managed.
                      We fed a good 5-6 times a day, but in some places, we also didn't have water for the horses other than in communal outside troughs we took them by every time we went in or out with them and standard all horses several times a day were led and offered water there.

                      Then came to the US and all kinds of management, stalling and turnout and had colics right and left, plenty on horses on 24/7 turn out!

                      I am not sure why horses colic so much today, when a good 50+ years ago that was practically unheard of where we managed them?

                      I used to pick all piles as I feed twice a day and put it in a manure spreader.
                      Took a couple weeks to fill it.
                      Then just put it in a designated pile in the pens and every few weeks spread it out.
                      Since all current horses are housebroken to the manure pile, I quit worrying about it and don't have to clean after them but rarely.
                      Most horses really try to keep their eating and resting places clean, if they have a designated bathroom they can use.
                      They seem to train new horses for you.

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                      • #12
                        Sorry, kind of got carried away on this, thinking back. Very long.

                        I was the fanatic one (among my friends) in horse care, way back when I was showing my 4-H horse. She got brushed daily, hooves picked, was ALWAYS clipped neatly on the head, neck and legs. I did pull her mane, but it was thin, only took a few minutes to keep it nice. She usually had turnout in pasture, depending on where I kept her and I rode almost daily so she had PLENTY of exercise. We showed most weekends during warm weather. I was unmarried, could make choices about my own time use.

                        Friends were much more casual, grooming horses the night before the show, kept in pasture most of the time to prevent needing stalls cleaned. They would chunk off mud, brush where they sat bareback, when we went for rides down the road.

                        I even kept this up with my girls when I got up to 3 animals, after getting married and keeping them at home.

                        Standards "started slipping" when the kids came along, just not enough hours in the day with work and everything else. Horses LAUGHED at me, in their less perfect grooming, but stayed healthy, BROKE even with so much less use. Still were stalled daily, stalls cleaned daily, but having tie stalls saved me a lot of time. Husband helped, did turnout in AM after I fed at 5A so they could be done eating, to be at work by 7A. We never blanketed horses back then unless body clipped, and none of mine ever were.

                        Then husband got started in Driving horses, so we needed MORE horses. He doesn't drive Singles. I go with the basics now, still clip winter goat-hair out from under jaws. It catches in halters and they throw heads. The bridle paths might get a bit long, like now, but normally they all have one which makes halters fit better. The horses that compete get roached for summer, to cool faster. Babies wear short manes, haven't "earned" the roach job yet. Also a nicer look for Judge if I take them to a show for practice. NO ONE roaches a horse who shows these days! They all come in daily for stalling, but also go play in pasture a large part of the day, 8-14 hours depending on the season. They do get grain, just not a lot, which is the same as I have always fed my horses. Grain is plain oats, cracked corn, soybean meal, NO molasses, same as we have used for many years. Also a daily vitamin and Selenium with Vit E, since our area is devoid of Selenium in the soil. They all shine wonderfully, so grass or hay and grain are doing their jobs in providing good nutrition.

                        We handle each horse DAILY which keeps them civilized and obedient to the humans. Not a fan of 24 hour turnout for that reason. Stalling daily keeps them happy with being confined, hanging out inside or tied up, so going to shows is not a big change. Stalls still get cleaned daily with manure spread daily, good for keeping up my bone density!

                        Harness is wiped down after use, or sprayed if we are rinsing the whole hitch of horses, though we are using synthetics instead of leather. Not as heavy, much less upkeep and cost, still very strong, which are all BIG points when handling 4-5 driving harness sets daily on the horses. Love leather, but the quantity we have that would need cleaning is overwhelming. I probably have a large HERD of cattle worth of leather goods to clean and condition each year, so not going to be used on a daily basis for harness. Leather show harnesses stay clean and packed up to go, used only for Competitions. It is CLEAN enough to pass the white glove tests they used to use for Presentation, soft and lovely on the horses.

                        My saddles, 5-6, both western and English, all leather, get cleaned/conditioned well every few months if they are being used regularly. Wet sweat gets wiped off after a ride, otherwise just removed and hung up after use.

                        Riding and Driving horses are kept shod year around, they get used enough they need traction and hoof protection that shoes provide on the many kinds of ground they go over, paved road surfaces. Young horses are kept barefoot until they start really working at ages 4-5 or so. Same ways as we have always kept the using horses and babies. They have almost no hoof issues, lamenesses, might get a stone bruise now and again between the 6 of them. We do handle feet frequently so they are (still) trained to behave for the Farrier. They do have hard, tough feet which is partly breeding and partly excellent Farrier care.

                        Still have to put up lots of hay in summer, though we are hiring guys to come do the stacking for us. It is less hay than in years past, 800-1000 bales instead of the usual 1500 when we had 8-9 horses. So yeah, slacking there!! Ha Ha

                        Tank heaters keep the tanks going. Two heated buckets in box stalls, since that is all the outlets there are by stalls. Breaking ice on the other 4-5 buckets daily. One horse likes TWO buckets at night, so he gets them and drinks most of it daily. Good boy! I do recommend using the Tuff Stuff buckets for winter ice, they are SLIPPERY inside, so a couple whacks with RUBBER mallet gets them cleaned out easily. Reduces the work, emptying frozen buckets each morning.

                        We have always been kind of "easy care" compared to what I read here on COTH, and I don't think I have changed too much in the way we manage the horses. I don't treat EACH one like my Barbie Horse anymore, not enough time or desire these days. Not groomed to perfection all the time but certainly checked daily with the "hands on" of ribs, body for injuries. One horse wears a rainsheet for wind protection outside. Rainsheet comes off each night to let him fluff up, get checked over. He has 3" of thick hair, but gets chilled in wind without his blanky. So he gets it on before going outside every day temps are below 35F or rain expected under 50F. He acted colicy twice in the past, laid down by the gate, up and down, standing alone. They were cold, windy days, though temps were not THAT low, had low windchill temps. We found his temp was sub-normal at 97F, so we warmed him up with coolers and covers, started keeping the rainsheet on him and he is fine now in the lovely temps we are getting like -15F Sunday PM. No others get blanketed, all are furry and playful, plenty warm with hay provided. I HAVE blankets, but they don't NEED them. Back to Barbie Dress-Up thinking, have the clothes, just not putting them on the horses. Husband laughs, said we could "dress" the whole neighborhood's horses with my stockpile. The weanling last winter did get a blanket on once or twice in those terrible cold nights, made ME feel better. I don't like doing it, worry about him getting caught on straps and hurt. He is bigger and thick haired this winter, no blankets needed.

                        I do mow fields more often, drag them with the chain drag to break up manure we spread on them or horses put in piles. Took some Gardening Classes, asked about grass management and learned a lot. Pasture is like a lawn, so giving it a bit more attention will keep it producing MUCH better, have a better effect on the soil and in drought times. Have to say my pastures and paddocks have improved 100% over when we only mowed on Memorial Day, 4th of July and Labor Day. Horses graze all season, don't need extra hay feedings, grass keeps them ALL full. We only give hay in summer when we haul them someplace now. I have invested in good tractors, mowers and equipment for fields, takes the work out of doing things on the larger scale than yard work! Just bought myself a new cowboy hat for mowing this year. Not going to be blowing off like last year's hat!!

                        So while some things, my focus areas have changed, other stuff is mostly unchanged in doing things around our place. No kids to give jobs to, does make me have to plan out work goals in getting stuff completed as needed. Weeds don't wait for you! Have to cut before they can set seed or get grown up into the fences. New or better tools can make it easier on you to get those jobs done.

                        Horse work is really never "work" when you get handling them. Fun to enjoy the good manners and training you have taught with that daily handling, or sessions you work with them. Helps if your horses are nice, fun to work with, LIKE doing stuff with you! Not worth owning any pukes, cripples or horses with "issues" because it takes all the fun away. I don't want to spend my time "fixing" those horses or their issues, so we are REALLY picky when we shop to buy horses. Husband has a good eye for movement, soundness, which helps a lot. Still, we have been stung a few times, attitude develops or they don't WANT to Drive, those ones are moved on to someone else. Not a good fit for us. We have the horses for FUN and enjoyment, so having and using GOOD horses makes that happen.

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