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  • Career as an International Rider/Groom/Working Student

    Has anyone ever had a working student position with a top rider? I'm considering it as a possible occupation out of college with a major in equine sciences (with career goals being barn manager, possibly?) What is a day like working for say, an international show jumper? I've heard "horror stories" where the working student feels like they're being exploited - they get no riding time, little pay, and long hours. But that's to be expected, right? What are the pros, cons, and alternatives to a job like this one?

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    I was a paid polo groom for several seasons. Started near my home-town club getting paid wages. Went to New Zealand for a season and was given food and housing and paid a good part time wage. Granted I worked part time hours, but I was still breaking even. In the polo world a lot depends on the number of ponies. My boss had 10 so when you ride one and pony a couple more it doesn't take that long. My arrangement was pretty typical from what I heard from other grooms.

    Yes polo is a different setting, I was exercising ponies not riding GP jumpers, but I got compensated well and it is a great place to learn/improve real-world horse skills. You can find jobs in England, NZ, Aus, Holland and a variety of other countries.

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      Pro's and cons - depends on the employer. My daughter worked for an Olympic showjumper during her gap year - wonderful boss, wonderful horses and given lots of responsibility. The boss's clients were the snob crowd and she had to put up with quite a bit. Got the job sight unseen because she had a reference and a B Pony Club. Same thing in New Zealand, Pony Club B and she worked and schooled polo ponies. Wonderful people, wide amount of experiences. Depends on the boss...grooms are very vulnerable and easy to exploit.
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        I don't know if you are in school yet, but I would recommend going to school to get a degree in something other than horses but that can still be applicable to horses (for example a business degree if you want to become a barn manager or biology degree if you want to become a vet tech or groom). This will give you much more knowledge than a equine science degree and can also give you an 'out' if you decide that you don't want to work with horses for your entire life. Then during your summers while at school get a job at a barn to get your horsey education. The pros that I know don't care so much if someone has a equine science degree, they care more about experience and commitment and willingness to learn. Some schools that offer equine degrees don't cover all the aspects of the horse industry that some pros may want you to know and can vary in terms of what you learn about care. An example of this is that we had a girl come to work for us who went to the most prestigious agriculture school in the country and graduate with a degree in equine management but did not know how to properly poultice and wrap a leg. I'm not saying that equine degrees are bad, but getting a degree in something else will open up your options.

        As for whether or not being a groom is a good career choice, well that depends on your goals in life. Grooming is very labour intensive; it can very hard on your body. You are up at the early hours in the morning and often do not go to bed until very late at night. You do lots of heavy lifting, lots of running back and forth, you will get very dirty, and you are constantly tired. You often have no set daily schedule because horses are unpredictable and things can change in an instant.

        BUT it is addicting. So addicting. Grooming for top level riders allows you to network and meet so many interesting people. It also allows you to look after some of the nicest horses in the world. Grooming also opens doorways to many other careers and can allow you to 'move up' in the world. I know grooms who have gone on to become vets, assistant trainers, riders, breeding managers, sales representatives... the list is endless. But you have to have the drive and willpower to do it.

        The two areas were grooms get burned are wages and hours. As I said above, hours can be unpredictable, especially at large shows. Some employers won't pay you overtime. Some will take advantage of newbie grooms who don't know the going rate of pay and will try to pay them less (FYI, minimum wage for grooming is either $50 per horse per day, or $100 per day regardless of number of horses in your care. This is the bare minimum, many employers pay more). Most employers are honest and will negotiate pay when they hire you, but its still good to be informed.

        As for daily life of grooms, duties include feeding, mucking stalls, tacking up, dealing with owners/riders/clients/other grooms/vets/farriers/media, helping your rider in the ring, clipping, cleaning tack, wrapping, and in some cases organizing books and show entries. Riding is not always included in grooming positions, and if you got to ride it may be just to hack or to warm up/walk out.

        Grooming can be a lot of fun but IMO it depends on the people you work with. Its really important that you explore your options and get in with a good group that respects you and the horses and has options for you to grow.

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          Originally posted by TheGroomStall View Post
          I don't know if you are in school yet, but I would recommend going to school to get a degree in something other than horses but that can still be applicable to horses (for example a business degree if you want to become a barn manager or biology degree if you want to become a vet tech or groom). This will give you much more knowledge than a equine science degree and can also give you an 'out' if you decide that you don't want to work with horses for your entire life. Then during your summers while at school get a job at a barn to get your horsey education. The pros that I know don't care so much if someone has a equine science degree, they care more about experience and commitment and willingness to learn. Some schools that offer equine degrees don't cover all the aspects of the horse industry that some pros may want you to know and can vary in terms of what you learn about care. An example of this is that we had a girl come to work for us who went to the most prestigious agriculture school in the country and graduate with a degree in equine management but did not know how to properly poultice and wrap a leg. I'm not saying that equine degrees are bad, but getting a degree in something else will open up your options.

          As for whether or not being a groom is a good career choice, well that depends on your goals in life. Grooming is very labour intensive; it can very hard on your body. You are up at the early hours in the morning and often do not go to bed until very late at night. You do lots of heavy lifting, lots of running back and forth, you will get very dirty, and you are constantly tired. You often have no set daily schedule because horses are unpredictable and things can change in an instant.

          BUT it is addicting. So addicting. Grooming for top level riders allows you to network and meet so many interesting people. It also allows you to look after some of the nicest horses in the world. Grooming also opens doorways to many other careers and can allow you to 'move up' in the world. I know grooms who have gone on to become vets, assistant trainers, riders, breeding managers, sales representatives... the list is endless. But you have to have the drive and willpower to do it.

          The two areas were grooms get burned are wages and hours. As I said above, hours can be unpredictable, especially at large shows. Some employers won't pay you overtime. Some will take advantage of newbie grooms who don't know the going rate of pay and will try to pay them less (FYI, minimum wage for grooming is either $50 per horse per day, or $100 per day regardless of number of horses in your care. This is the bare minimum, many employers pay more). Most employers are honest and will negotiate pay when they hire you, but its still good to be informed.

          As for daily life of grooms, duties include feeding, mucking stalls, tacking up, dealing with owners/riders/clients/other grooms/vets/farriers/media, helping your rider in the ring, clipping, cleaning tack, wrapping, and in some cases organizing books and show entries. Riding is not always included in grooming positions, and if you got to ride it may be just to hack or to warm up/walk out.

          Grooming can be a lot of fun but IMO it depends on the people you work with. Its really important that you explore your options and get in with a good group that respects you and the horses and has options for you to grow.
          Very well said!!!

          And totally agree with going to college for business degree instead of horse major!

          P.
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