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  • WWYD - Holding Your Stall at Boarding Barn

    So, my former student who has leased my mare in the past, called me last night to ask about taking my mare with her to camp this summer as she has in summers past. Well, this is the first year I'm boarding. Do I continue to pay for my stall business as usual or do I talk to the BO about a discounted rate? I wouldn't expect her to hold it for free, but surely wouldn't want to continue to pay full board when my mare won't be eating or using shavings or require any stall cleaning. I pay $175 per month for full care (I know, dirt cheap!) and if it came down to me losing my stall or getting a discount, I'd suck it up and pay full price. WWYD? Would you even bother asking?

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    I'd have the conversation.

    I'm moving my mare to a training barn this Saturday. Our regular place is a family barn, about 20 horses. I want to return there in six weeks or so. I pay $400 for full care. I'll pay $100 a month for them to hold my place. They feel good about it, and so do I.

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    • #3
      I've been gone from the barn for weeks at a time horseshowing and always paid full board in my absence. I'm assuming that is because the BO still has to budget for expenses, pay suppliers, etc. While it's true that you won't be using shavings, hay, labor, etc., you still contractually have an obligation to the BO for services they are ready and able to supply whether you use them or not. Now, if the BO utilizes your stall in your absence, then that's a whole other story.

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      • #4
        First, I'd check the contract to see if it's addressed.

        If it is, then you know the answer.

        If not, I'd just go talk to the BO and see if the two of you can come to an agreement. There's no set "rule" on how this must be handled. Whatever the two of you agree on (AND GET IN WRITING) should be just fine.

        When I was holding 3 stalls (on reserve til I moved up here), I was charged one month of board for each stall in advance and that was applied to my first month. If I did not show up, it was non-refundable.

        Perhaps you could offer the same? Pay for a month of board in advance as good faith--then it gets applied when you come back?

        Or a monthly fee....100 bucks or so should cover supplies that get averaged out over the year?

        I dunno. Just talk to the BO.
        A good horseman doesn't have to tell anyone...the horse already knows.

        Might be a reason, never an excuse...

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        • #5
          Is this camp all summer long?

          If I really wanted to stay at the barn I was at, I'd try to work out a deal, but pay to keep the stall definitely.

          The girl should still be paying the lease and pay for all the horse's expenses at camp (it's not YOU going to camp), so in the end- it shouldn't make much difference to you.

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            Originally posted by olympicprincess View Post
            Is this camp all summer long?

            If I really wanted to stay at the barn I was at, I'd try to work out a deal, but pay to keep the stall definitely.

            The girl should still be paying the lease and pay for all the horse's expenses at camp (it's not YOU going to camp), so in the end- it shouldn't make much difference to you.
            The camp is all summer long. I don't charge a lease fee to my former student because her relationship with this horse is something special. This horse only warms up to few people and it took months for me to establish a level of trust with her. It was instant with this mare and my student. My student is bearing all costs associated with moving the mare to and from camp as well as any special shots outside of rabies and 4 way that I do that are required by the camp. So, I won't charge my student to "make up" any extra costs. She's 19, can't afford it, but she loves this horse and enjoys every summer she gets to spend with her.

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            • #7
              I say it does not hurt to ask the barn owner and if they have never heard of giving a discount then simply pay full board if you want to keep your stall.

              I can see both sides of this coin. I can see why the barn owner might want full board to hold the stall. I also totally get paying less because they are not using resources, etc.

              Just ask.

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              • #8
                No harm in asking, especially if you do it gently so the BO doesn't feel pressured (then you're less likely to get a knee-jerk, "No way!!" too!).

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                • #9
                  When I took my mare off for 3 months for breeding, I paid the BO $150 a month while she was gone, and one of the pasture boarders took the stall while I was gone, paying $400 a month for full stall board, understanding that my mare was coming back. It worked out well for everyone.
                  So maybe you can work something out.
                  "Perhaps the final test of anybody's love of dogs is their willingness to permit them to make a camping ground of the bed" -Henry T. Merwin

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Snowflake View Post
                    The camp is all summer long. I don't charge a lease fee to my former student because her relationship with this horse is something special. This horse only warms up to few people and it took months for me to establish a level of trust with her. It was instant with this mare and my student. My student is bearing all costs associated with moving the mare to and from camp as well as any special shots outside of rabies and 4 way that I do that are required by the camp. So, I won't charge my student to "make up" any extra costs. She's 19, can't afford it, but she loves this horse and enjoys every summer she gets to spend with her.
                    I just wanted to say that that is so generous of you to not charge the student with extra costs. I had a "special" relationship with a pony years ago - the barn owner (and his owner) allowed me to do things like clean stalls and feed to get to ride him in return. Since then, I've always depended on the generosity of horse owners to keep me in the saddle. I'm in college now, and am riding at a woman's backyard barn - I get to ride in exchange for doing things like cleaning tack and grooming. It has made all the difference in the world - this girl is very lucky to have you!
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                    • #11
                      Well, just like anything else, it doesn't hurt to ask. Just be nice about it and remind them that you do want to come back, you're happy with it there and want to keep your spot, but you would enjoy a discount (wouldn't we all) since your mare won't be using the food/shavings/etc.

                      The worst they can tell you is no, and then you would just pay full board. Then you can put some of the stuff you store in your garage in there to get your money's worth.
                      Originally posted by barka.lounger
                      u get big old crop and bust that nags ass the next time it even slow down.

                      we see u in gp ring in no time.

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                      • #12
                        When I boarded my horses there were times when I'd send one out for training, usually for a couple of months. I paid full board to keep that stall. I did approach the BO about a discount and she said no. It was worth a shot.

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                        • #13
                          You could also ask if subletting is an option. Maybe you, or the barn owner, has a friend who'd like to bring a horse in for a short time (someone who keeps their horse at home but wants some time to work in an arena? use the trails? take lessons?) while your horse is gone. They pay all or part of your board, you pick up the difference with the understanding that if your horse has to come home on short notice that they will go home on short notice. Works for everyone, if you can find someone and if it's ok with the barn owner.

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                            #14
                            I asked nicely and she said $100 a month would be fine. Problem solved! I'm ok with that.

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by Paige777 View Post
                              I just wanted to say that that is so generous of you to not charge the student with extra costs. I had a "special" relationship with a pony years ago - the barn owner (and his owner) allowed me to do things like clean stalls and feed to get to ride him in return. Since then, I've always depended on the generosity of horse owners to keep me in the saddle. I'm in college now, and am riding at a woman's backyard barn - I get to ride in exchange for doing things like cleaning tack and grooming. It has made all the difference in the world - this girl is very lucky to have you!
                              I like this girl a lot - I think it's because our personalities are very similar. She does me the favor of working with this mare, and Snowflake genuinely enjoys the attention. So, the way I see it, it's a win-win all around. And, should I not be able to keep Snowflake, I know she has a home with Sara. So, that's a realtionship worthy of fostering.

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                              • #16
                                Great! Glad it worked out.

                                Any BO with business sense should be happy to do this if you pay them their profit margin on the stall. Same profit, no work! What's not to love?

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                                • #17
                                  What a blessing for both of you. A girl has a horse to ride that she normally could not afford and you have someone to ride your horse and you know it is well taken care of.

                                  I am glad you and the BO worked out the board situation.

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                                  • #18
                                    Originally posted by Snowflake View Post
                                    The camp is all summer long. I don't charge a lease fee to my former student because her relationship with this horse is something special. This horse only warms up to few people and it took months for me to establish a level of trust with her. It was instant with this mare and my student. My student is bearing all costs associated with moving the mare to and from camp as well as any special shots outside of rabies and 4 way that I do that are required by the camp. So, I won't charge my student to "make up" any extra costs. She's 19, can't afford it, but she loves this horse and enjoys every summer she gets to spend with her.
                                    That's VERY nice for you to do this for your student.
                                    Now in Kentucky

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                                    • #19
                                      I would talk with the BO, but keep in mind that even though your horse won't be their eating and pooping, she also won't be able to put anyone else in that stall and get the full board. She might be fine with just the "dry" board (cost of the empty stall), but might feel she needs the full board to still meet her expenses.
                                      Amanda

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                                      • #20
                                        people like you make the world a much brighter and better place. seriously, thank you.

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