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  • The headaches are often from cutting out your caffine. Caffiene dilates the blood vessels in your brain and when you cut your caffine, the vessels constrict a little bit more and it takes a little while to adjust to it.

    My solution is to have some caffine in moderation.

    I am keeping my fingers crossed and hoping I will be able to fit into my riding Jod pants (the ones I wore back in 1997) by March.

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    • Well, I know why it was doctor prescribed. Your blood chemistry will improve within 3 months or so if you stick to it. And the first month is the hardest because that is when you crave things that you may not have eaten or wanted in months.

      But cheer up, ETBW. The headaches go away after a couple of weeks and so do the cravings. And your tastebuds WILL change as well. I hope you have discovered Splenda. Way better than sugar. If you don't have a snow cone machine, get one, alog with some sugar free syrup. (Hawaiianice.com) Plus make a shake with heavy cream and Davinci chocolate syrup. Yum, yum.

      ''Computers are useless. They can only give you answers.''
      - Pablo Picasso
      'Computers are useless. They can only give you answers.'
      - Pablo Picasso

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      • Actually, amwrider, the headaches are the result are carb withdrawal. We all went thru it.

        And hp, the glycemic index of a food DOES matter if you are diabetic or insulin resistant. Hence the no carrots rule. Ever thought why horses like carrots so much? It because they are PURE sugar!

        ''Computers are useless. They can only give you answers.''
        - Pablo Picasso
        'Computers are useless. They can only give you answers.'
        - Pablo Picasso

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        • Spenda is my new best friend!

          A cup of Constant Comment tea in place of my morning coffee did nicely.

          Friendship is Love without his wings
          -Lord Byron
          "If you would have only one day to live, you should spend at least half of it in the saddle."

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          • Carrots have a HIGHER glycemic index than table sugar.
            Crazy!

            ETBW, are you going to join with us?? yay!
            I have a plan, that includes losing 20 more pounds (lost 23 already ). I'll begin eating more carbs and just watch my weight. If I gain more than 5, back on the diet. I need to start working fruit into my diet now.

            I have my "cheat" day coming up. I'm looking forward to cinnamin buns

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            • Sleepy, I understand they have a high glycemic idex and that affects insulin levels and those who are diabetics or insulin resistant must carefully monitor that. I also know that carrots can be a part of a diabetic’s diet with out having adverse effects.

              My point was really about the weight loss issue. I don’t think the consumption of carrots, cantaloupe and grapefruit (whole fruits and veggies) a part in the cause of the obesity epidemic. I feet that extremes (no fat; no carbs, etc.) promoted as part of any diet plan tend to be a disservice.

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              • How did you know? Fairweather, you are psychic.

                An evil co-worker brought hot Pecan Cinnabons in for everyone this morning. Boo! Hiss! Fie upon him!

                I just can't come up with a low-carb substitute.

                Friendship is Love without his wings
                -Lord Byron
                "If you would have only one day to live, you should spend at least half of it in the saddle."

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                • <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Everythingbutwings:
                  How did you know? Fairweather, you are psychic.

                  An evil co-worker brought hot Pecan Cinnabons in for everyone this morning. Boo! Hiss! Fie upon him!

                  I just can't come up with a low-carb substitute.

                  _Friendship is Love without his wings_
                  -Lord Byron<HR></BLOCKQUOTE> Pecans and cinnamon in low fat Ricotta (with sugar substitute if desired)?

                  In fact I think I might try it for the next dessert. [/QUOTE]Did it last night. VERY good.

                  [This message was edited by Janet on Feb. 13, 2004 at 02:47 PM.]
                  Janet

                  chief feeder and mucker for Music, Spy, Belle and Tiara. Someone else is now feeding and mucking for Chief and Brain (both foxhunting now).

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                  • hp- I have been doing the south beach diet since January. Phase 1 is very strict and virtually eliminates carbs from your diet, but it is only intended to last 2 weeks. After that, you move into phase 2 and finally, phase 3. I am now in phase 2 where you begin adding back fruit and whole grain sources of carbohydrates. The point of phase 2 is to pay attention to how your body reacts to the carbos. If you can add them back without creating cravings which lead to overeating and weight gain, then you continue on that road. If you notice that a certain food (say bread, for example) causes you to have a craving and want to binge, then you eliminate that food and try another source of carbohydrates. The way I interpret it is that you should be paying attention to what your body tells you, not just blindly eliminating certain foods. Other than sugar, not many foods are totally off limits. I would consider myself successful at adding back whole grains to my diet. I don't pay attention to how many grams of carbohydrates anymore, I pay attention to making sure they are whole grain, I eat a single smallish portion (as opposed to a plateful) and whether they satisfy me. For example, in a typical day now, I eat homemade oatmeal with equal, cinnamon and a small handful of walnuts, cheese stick or almonds mid-morning, lunch is usually a salad and some sort of meat and a piece of fruit, and dinner is usually fish or meat, salad, another veggie, and some days a serving of whole wheat pasta, some whole grain bread, or some other whole grain side. If I don't do a whole grain side at dinner, I may have a pita or wrap at lunch.

                    In between, I don't limit my snacking. If I am hungry, I eat something. Usually I will go for cheese, peanut butter on celery, dried apricots, grapefruit, apple, etc. I also eat a sweet everyday, usually sugar free jello, low carb ice cream, sugar free pudding, or a couple of sugar free peanut butter cups. At this point, I think I am getting plenty of carbohydrates.

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                    • I have been low-carbing since September and I am sold.

                      I did 3 weeks of Atkins induction (really I stuck to about 10ish carbs a day) and lost 10lbs. The first 4-5 days I felt sick to my stomach, had headaches, and was just tired as all get-out. After those days, I got into walking a lot, I have big hills around my house, they kick my butt.

                      Anyway, I have no idea how many carbs I have been consuming on average since then. I am very aware of carb intake, but don't count. I have egg-beaters, cheese, and turkey bacon for breakfast. Sandwich without bread for lunch (shaved turkey with ranch dressing, swiss cheese on top. Microwave it for 1 minute, it's awesome). I snack on string cheese, celery and ranch dip, and sliced almonds that I cook in the skillet with butter and salt, put in a zip-lock bag and keep in the car. For dinner usually a salad, or stir-fry veggies and chicken in low-carb teriyaki or soy sauce. So good. Redi-whip is my new best friend. Put a bunch of choc and regular redi-whip in a bowl and in the freezer for 10ish minutes and you have little to no-carb "ice cream". Also, I splurge at events. I can't say no to chips and salsa, nor to a good piece of cake. And I am not a nazi about making myself avoid candy all the time, I just try to have it as little as possible. But I OD'd on M&Ms at a super bowl party. I felt guilty, but the worst part was that I couldn't sleep at all b/c my body's not used to all that sugar. If I do have cake or candy or bread one day, I just get really strict for a few days to make up for it, and make myself work out harder the next day. I never gave up caffeine completely, though I do have a lot less.

                      Anyway, I am anything but committed or consistent, but this diet has been easy for me. I have struggled with my weight since high school and always been a very active athlete, but this is the first thing that's really worked.

                      I didn't weigh when I started, but I know that I am now 35-40 pounds lighter than the most I've ever weighed in my life, and about the size I was in 8th or 9th grade. Not only that, but I ran 7 miles this morning (going for a 1/2 marathon in April). I do have to sneak in some carbs to give me energy for my long runs once a week. I had a peice of banana bread for breakfast before my runs. Also, I have more veggies than I'm supposed to. But lets be honest, veggies are awesome for you, and who was the last person you read about that was fat from too much broccoli?

                      Anyway, I encourage low-carb, within certain bounds. Don't over do the fat. Like don't have real bacon every day. But just be aware of all the worthless crap we eat, like white bread, white rice, and potatoes. Pretty much no nutritional value and worthless sugary carbs. Go for brown and green stuff.

                      Between that, running, and pilates, I feel the best I've felt in a long time. Too bad I don't ride anymore, my shadbelly fits better than it fit when I did ride!

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                      • Another thing is, I'm not sure where you get the "no snacks" rule -- it's okay to eat more or less constantly as long as you are eating the RIGHT foods -- like sliced up bell peppers or cauliflower... a piece of string cheese... Sugar-Free Jello, etc.

                        I was pretty fricken grumpy durin my first 2 weeks and yes I would have killed for a pear! Once you get your blood sugars leveled out and the bad habits out of your system, the plan becomes much more moderate and livable. Grapefruit is actually a very good choice among citrus fruits so just hang on and you'll get there!

                        hp-- the exterme restrictions on fruit are a temporary (2 week) part of the plan. For lifelong eating Atkins promotes fruit AND whole grains as part of healthy eating.

                        I am still losing weight even though I've added fruits (berries & melon)), nuts, low-carb yogurt and small amounts of high-fiber "Health food store granola" to the basic "meats + veggies" equation. For breakfast I have either a LC yogurt sprinkled with granola or cottage cheese with fruit. When I was on induction I would usualy make celery sticks with cream cheese (I got to where I couldn't even *look* at an egg!) and a cup of "Soy Slender" capuccino flavor soymilk.

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                        Proud Member: Bull-snap Haters Clique, Michigan Clique, and Appaloosa Clique!

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                        • Let me second or third that veggies RULE! I used to joke that I got all the veggies I needed from my Big Mac! Now I eat a salad EVERY day! I also eat a minimum of 2-3 cups of cooked veggies. Ok so I don't really eat fruit- but I never did before either. Every once in awhile I will have strawberries or something like that. My mom was on my case about fat and protein levels until I figured out the before and after.

                          It is all about making good food choices and as in everything you have to find some moderation. No you can't have a side of bacon every morning for breakfast and loose weight. I really limit my cheese to just topping- no more eating slices because of the calories. I have ALWAYS had a weight problem! But at least now I can look at the food and determine the best for me. And yes I occasionally have a bit of something not on the list- but then I move on!

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                          • <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Sleepy:
                            Actually, amwrider, the headaches are the result are carb withdrawal. We all went thru it.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

                            I only got the headaches when I cut the caffine out of the diet, not by cutting the carbs.

                            I am sure that some people can get them by cutting carbs only, but caffine withdrawal headaches are very common and may be the more likely situation.

                            This link explains it. I had my info backwards, caffine constricts the vessels and when you cut the caffine the vessels dilate and the increased blood flow gives you headaches.

                            http://www.headachepainfree.com/caff..._headaches.htm

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                            He who angers you, controls you.
                            Every man has a right to his opinion, but no man has a right to be wrong in his facts.
                            Bernard M. Baruch

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                            • Right, what I hear b328,MK,amy, etc. describing is a moderate diet and healthful, not the generalized description I so often hear about the low carb diet. And generalization do get you into trouble.

                              Hello Again - I'm not sure if its me you're referring to in regards to "no snacking" as I don't understand that to be a part of the low carb diet. But I'm still bothered by terms like good/bad or "right" because they add unnecessary guilt in selecting foods for a health diet. As most people find it a challenge to consistently maintain a healthy weight, I'd rather evaluate food on nutritional value. I mean, ice cream is good! However, it does contain lots of fat, calories and sugar with little calcium or other good stuff (other than I like it) in return for my well-being. Can I eat and still maintain a healthy weight? Yes, its possible, but it also depends on a lot of other things I do not just the nature of ice cream.

                              Hmmm. I'm not sure that makes sense. Does it?

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                              • The "no snacking" comment was me. I'm in the initial first two week phase and everything that I want to eat is forbidden.

                                That said, I have tons of cheeses, pepperoni, celery, cream cheese, and other things that are on the OK list, they just don't appeal to me like a nice wheat thin, Granny Smith apple or Lay's crunch does

                                I'm throwing a pity party for myself!

                                Friendship is Love without his wings
                                -Lord Byron
                                "If you would have only one day to live, you should spend at least half of it in the saddle."

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                                • The only problem is I can't be trusted around sugar! When I am off sugar I can occasionally have a small amount and it does not bother me. If I could eat whatever in moderation in the first place then I would not need to loose weight! It CALLS to me from the kitchen!

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                                  • hp, yes it is about moderation and being reasonable and a lifestyle, etc.

                                    BUT.... i think the 2 weeks induction, strict, no fruit, etc period was good for me. two weeks breaks habits. it killed my sweet-tooth. it was REALLY hard to say no to sweets flat-out for 2 weeks. i was super hard-core for 2-3 weeks. it was hard, but when you put a limit on the time like that, you can do anything. seriously, i think you can do anything for 2 weeks. so for me, it was pretty much 2-3 weeks of cheese, meat, eggs and some salad. that was it. hard? yes, but it's a short amount of time, and i think it kick-started my metabolism.

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                                    • by "Right" foods I just meant "induction-friendly" foods. Keeping carbs down in the first 2 weeks is quite challenging.

                                      Proud Member: Bull-snap Haters Clique, Michigan Clique, and Appaloosa Clique!
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                                      • <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by hp:
                                        My point was really about the weight loss issue. I don’t think the consumption of carrots, cantaloupe and grapefruit (whole fruits and veggies) a part in the cause of the obesity epidemic. I feet that extremes (no fat; no carbs, etc.) promoted as part of any diet plan tend to be a disservice.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

                                        Of course they dont...but if you want to LOSE weight, you need to watch your intake of them, simple as that
                                        Lemme guess, yer a skinny chic

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                                        • yep that's me, fairweather, skinny chic

                                          I'm not convinced that the weight loss is due to a reduction in certain fruits and veggies and if I were to bet it would be that the weigt loss is due more a general reduction of calories via processed/ refined sugars. Since all forms of carbs are restricted at the same time, its not clear that one has a greater influence than the other.

                                          But I don't think we'll prove that by talking! As I said before good for you who acheive and maintain a healthy weight.

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