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  • #81
    Well my friend and I are getting together tonight to go through the SB book and will try to support each other. I've been trying to do the Atkins diet, but keep breaking down on the carbs.

    What do you guys do to get rid of your cravings? I have the worst cravings....I end up breaking down and finding somethign with carbs in it. Any suggestions? I'm sure if I could get through a full week, I'd be fine and hopefully I'll see the results everyone else has seen!

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    • #82
      Can't speak for Atkins... but on SB, the first 1-2 days is bad (my whole family's on the thing and they said the same). I wasn't hungry, but I had this urge to just shove food in my mouth (phantom carbs plaguing my insulin settings?).

      Anyway, eating a sugar free fudgsicle seemed to help. After that, it really is easy (and I'm good at having an excuse to cheat on ANYTHING). I actually had to start over-- I got a stomach bug, had to take antibiotics, and I was only allowed white bread and chicken broth for a week. The second time was harder than the first in terms of the first 2 days, but I think it had to do with the massive amounts of flour I was consuming.

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      • #83
        How is the South Beach diet different from the Zone or Atkins? I know that Atkins is low-carb, where the Zone is about balancing your carb intake with the right amounts of fat and protein. What does the South Beach plan do?

        Also, I went to buy a low-carb snack this afternoon since you guys are all raving about them. The peanut butter cups by Atkins taste great, but at $2.69 CDN for a small package, I don't think I'll be buying them very often!

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        • #84
          By the way oskaar, I went to get some of the ATKINS stufff but they don't have it all yet.Its not all available in the GNC stores yet,however somebody mentioned carb blockers. Well the local Walmart had something a little different for sale.It was not a pill, it is little cubes of chocolaty/caramels. Its called STARCH AWAY-BLOCKS CARBS INSTANLY. All natual stimulant free. It so far has worked pretty well. Just chew a couple of these little cubes before a meal that might be high in carbs(nice big Italian dinner)and then keep your self fairly close to the lew. The effects are faily close to that of those fat blockers. Anyhooo, I have had a few high carb dinners and should have gained a couple of pounds by morning, luckly no such thing by taking those carb blockers.

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          • #85
            <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by xena:

            What do you guys do to get rid of your cravings? I have the worst cravings....I end up breaking down and finding somethign with carbs in it. Any suggestions? I'm sure if I could get through a full week, I'd be fine and hopefully I'll see the results everyone else has seen!<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

            Face it...you're addicted....Honest. I had the most awful time for about 3 days. I actually was phsyically ill the second day on Atkins induction...just so nauseated I couldn't get off the sofa. It passed after a little while and I felt great. According to Atkins, the more addicted you are to carbs and sugar, the sicker you will feel and the harder to break the cravings. Hang in there and be strong...it does pass.

            I got a silly notion to buy some tortilla chips the other day...I was hungry and it was a spontaneous thing. I bought a bag, ate a few, and I just couldn't finish them. They're sitting here by the computer. I have no desire to eat them now at all. You just get to where that stuff isn't all that appealing or you can eat a few and turn off your craving quickly.

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            • #86
              oh mommy dearest,
              Ben and Jerry's low carb ice cream is da bomb!
              cant tell the difference between them!

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              • #87
                <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by magnolia:
                Happy South Beacher here!
                How do you guys eat at the shows with all the fries and muffins floating around?

                The witchy witch witch of south central NC.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
                You know the muffins weren't the problems at shows, but the pasta salad was the hardest to avoid.
                I packed a full travel size cooler for me to avoid the snack stand.
                Cheese sticks, frozen water bottles, Crystal Light, brocolli, cauliflower, celery and peanut butter, etc. to snack on, and a chicken salad for lunch.
                Worked last summer, hope it will this summer too! If I could just figure a way to keep the barn kids from stealing those cheese sticks!

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                • #88
                  <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Coreene:
                  And then there was our intern at the office, who went on Atkins, discovered pork rinds, and PUT THEM IN THE MICROWAVE FIRST. Every single time. I cannot even begin to describe how nasty that smelled.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

                  Holy cow, Coreene, what bad memories just came rushing back to me. I worked with a guy that did the same thing -- stunk up the whole office until we were all nauseous. So this is what a flashback feels like! I can smell it as I type -- please hold, while I go get sick ...

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                  • #89
                    I made the change to Atkins 8/8/03 and have lost 45.5 pounds to date. LIFE IS GOOD---and this is EASY!
                    For those wanting/interested in a diet support group, visit 3fatchicks.com Great site with weightloss info/articles, neat calculators, etc and forums, for ALL diet/weightloss programs. Y'all come on over---haven't found any or many "horse folks" there, so it be would good to have more of 'us' there!

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                    • #90
                      How do those of you with spouses (or kids, etc) manage to stick to these diets? I don't need to lose weight right now, but have been just tired early recently, and I suspect it's from not eating right--just started a new job, in law school part time, and taking care of the horse. I love to cook, but haven't had time recently to make sure I'm balancing things out. Plus, my husband eats like a horse, and is from Eastern Europe...lots of potatoes and bread in his "diet"!

                      I do the shopping and most of the cooking, so have some control over things, but don't have time or energy to count carbs. Also have quite low blood pressure, so I have to eat pretty frequently.

                      Are there a couple of key things I can do to eat healthier? Thanks!
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                      • #91
                        <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> How do those of you with spouses (or kids, etc) manage to stick to these diets? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

                        I usually serve BF what I'm having, and I make him some carbs - a potato or some noodles. If he wants sweets, I make those and make him send the rest to work. Luckily, he isn't a big sweet tooth and is happy with fruit for dessert. He is one of those awful people who would chose an apple over "chocolate fudge explosion" and cut up brocolli over potato chips. Of course, he's thin....

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                        • #92
                          Pam put us on the South Beach diet and I have to say I'm amazed. We were both getting a little middle-age pouch, especially after the holidays, even with as much exercise as we do. In the first week and a half she dropped 6-7 pounds and I 8 pounds. The amazing thing is it's all off my gut and where she needed to loose it. We've both gone back to jeans that we haven't been able to get into for a while.
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                          • #93
                            My SO is doing this diet with me, but he's a little more liberal.

                            To show how do-able this diet is, I currently have a BAG of Ghiradelli chocolate bars sitting in my house, a Box of Godiva chocolate (thanks Gato Gordo!) and a cabinet full of Mac N Cheese (my fave ) and I dont even want it.....um, now

                            I find it much easier to do the following. First, PLAN your meals out--dont wait until the last minute to 'grab a bite' or you WILL cheat out of sheer starvation and no other choices around.
                            Second, Have your fridge FULL of stuff you like to eat. My faves are Turkey pepperoni, Macadamias and various nuts, bags of prepared salads that you can throw together, and a cooked chicken or turkey that you can nibble on.

                            Third, Find a dessert you like. My fave to eat is Frozen cool whip with peanut butter on it. YUMMY! Tastes similar to ice cream. Though, last night I bought Ben and Jerrys AND breyers Low carb ice cream and it was so damn good I couldnt believe it.

                            Fourth, make SMALL targets! Dont say "i want to lose 40 pounds!" Say to yourself "i want to lose 8 pounds" Make the goals attainable, then change your goals each time you reach your last goal.

                            Fifth, Dont weigh yourself for two weeks. Pay attention to how your clothes are fitting (or not fitting), then weigh yourself every few days, not everyday.

                            Sixth, find an article of clothing that you have as a goal (mine is my shadbelly that was custom made for me 40 pounds ago!! ). Hang it where you will see it all the time. ON the fridge if you need to!

                            Seventh, get rid of ALL the stuff you cant have! Go to a homeless shelter and donate unopened pasta, soup, etc. SO and I had a ritualistic "feeding of the pigs" where we took all the food that we couldnt eat and was openend (chips, pretzels, candy) and fed it to the pigs that live at the barn where I get hay . That was fun

                            Eighth, read Low carb support sites. Look at what other people have done, and how good they look. This helps me more than I ever knew it could.

                            Ninth, Allow yourself a few days off if you need it. You might gain some weight, but mental torture is worse than that . I usually set goals for myself--my next goal is Valentines Day thru to my birthday. (Thats 5 days) and I'm going to cheat, but not horribly

                            Well, thats what works for me, and really there is no excuse for cheating anymore, since there are fabulous sweets, instant soups, snack bars, bread and meals at Subway, Fridays etc. Safeway has FABULOUS stuff for Low-carbers!

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                            • #94
                              I have been eating low carbs for almost 2 weeks now (no special diet... just my own) And I have noticed LOTS of headaches.. but in general I feel better about the rest of my body..Lost almost 10 pound sin two weeks just from eating low carbs, low sugars and high protein/fibre.. PLUS I have been tanning like a freak in preparation for Mexico (I am a burny-go-whitey)..
                              My problem is, I want to continue eating healthy as I am now, BUT if I loose anymore weight I will look anorexic.. any ideas on how to eat properly and NOT loose weight?

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                              • #95
                                I think everyone should realize that no one solution is going to work for everyone. I lost 30 lbs on weight watchers last year and decided at Thanksgiving I wanted to go ahead and lose some more. My mom & stepdad are doing atkins so I thought I would give it a try. All I can say is for me---it was an awful experience!!! After the first few days the cravings went away but it was just total monotony....I can only eat so much meat, cheese and eggs before I can't stand it anymore. Vegetables are a big thing for me---and I don't mean just a few cups of salad vegetables...I mean I like to eat lots of different veggies during the day. So that was one big strike for me. I did lose a little weight initially, but it wasn't this drastic reduction everyone had talked about, and I hate to mention but I was constipated ALL the time! The bad part came when I tried to start adding carbs back in little by little. All I can say is the headaches were unbearable and I stopped doing it. After a few weeks of returning to normal from that, I went back to WW and started losting weight right away---and eating a VARIETY of foods & veggies I really like.

                                Just thought I would pop that in on this thread--Atkins can't work for everyone, and it's not the be all end all of diets that the media makes it out to be. Weight watchers and south beach aren't for everyone either. I think it's a good idea to assess your lifestyle and what would fit in to that lifestyle best for you. Atkins would never fit in with the way I like to eat and I don't want to spend my life feeling like I'm always on a specific program. For me WW doesn't feel like that. Also--don't ever be afraid to ask your doctor what they think would be best for you.

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                                  #96
                                  flash ... can you find me a good doctor? My conversations with mine boil down to Atkins is a great way to kill yourself, try eating 800 cal a day or less, get surgery or start taking diet drugs ...

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                                  • #97
                                    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Celebrity:
                                    My problem is, I want to continue eating healthy as I am now, BUT if I loose anymore weight I will look anorexic.. any ideas on how to eat properly and NOT loose weight?
                                    <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

                                    It's really not that hard! 40/30/30, or 30/40/30, or for shorter periods of time 40/40/20 (protein, carbs, fat) as percentages of your total daily calories. Yes, it involves math. If you don't eat enough protein, your body uses muscle to survive. If you eat TOO much protein (aka Atkins) then your body works REALLY hard to get rid of all the excess, which is why you can do some serious damage to your kidneys if you aren't drinking enough water. Long distance runners have long known that too high a protein diet can make for dehydration very quickly.

                                    IMNSHO, the best "diet" is one that teaches you to eat properly. And IMNSHO Atkins is not eating properly. Society has gotten to the point where EVERYthing is supersized and full of carbs and fat and poor quality protein. This is spilling into the rest of the world with McDonalds (among others) and countries that used to be full of svelte healthy people are now experiencing sharp increases in heart problems and cholesterol problems and people just plain getting fat.

                                    Have any of you who have stopped having asthma/allergy/sinus problems on Atkins stopped to think that it just might be because you've stopped eating known allergens of processed grains? Processed wheat products are allergens to so many people who don't realize it.

                                    I'm glad so many of you are trying different "diets", but it's too bad that Atkins (and others, but Atkins is the focus here) isn't teaching you to eat a well-balanced diet which DOES *gasp* include carbs!
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                                      #98
                                      Who said any of these plans don't include carbs? They all do ... Atkins included.

                                      This is getting unexpectedly frustrating. I have to say, since I started the thread, please read the thread title "Low Carb, show season & unexpected benefits" It is meant to be a positive thread to discuss the unexpected ways these systems have helped us.

                                      If you aren't going to discuss this topic in a positive fashion, please don't add to it or I will close the thread & take it PT.

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                                      • #99
                                        <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by A_work_in_progress:
                                        flash ... can you find me a good doctor? My conversations with mine boil down to Atkins is a great way to kill yourself, try eating 800 cal a day or less, get surgery or start taking diet drugs ... <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

                                        YIKES....I'd say any doctor would be better than that!!!! I can't imagine most docs would encourage diet drugs either

                                        Anyway---I don't think atkins will kill you (but I know it's not healthy for ME), but less than 20 carbs a day is such a shock to the system that it's something not everyone can deal with.

                                        I don't think this has taken a negative turn....some people like it some don't---it's good to hear everyone's experiences with all choices.

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                                        • I'm now on the Sugarbusters diet. A friend recommended it, and it's perfect for me, much easier than Atkins. It just doesn't get much press...
                                          Basically, it eliminates all refined sugar and refined carbs. So, Atkins plus lots of fruits and veggies and whole grain breads, pasta, etc. It's a very sensible diet, and while not as fast acting as Atkins, it seems much healthier. Plus, I can have Triscuits! I haven't even wanted to cheat, except when I was starving and in a hurry--I wanted to grab a sandwich because it was easy.

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