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  • #241
    Sidetracked Bea.... How many times have you read the merck (for humans)? There is a disease that only a certain part on the human pop. can get. PocketPony is excluded fron answering this. I'm counting on you BEA!!!!!!!!!!

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    • #242
      Oh, just rub her nose in it and let's get on with it. Xegeba is right, this is SMALL time stuff.

      However, public nose-rubbing might be entertaining....
      )()(

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      • #243
        Sweetfern!!!!!!!!!! Thank the LOrd... COCKTAILS!!!

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        • #244
          You BET, girl!!!
          I've been a lonely Beaver...

          Really, I teach at a college and you wouldn't believe what the kids/criminals are up to these days...

          They would have the qualifications to work in a prison in Iraq!!
          )()(

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          • #245
            So basically Sweetfern, Would you liken this to when you and I would call up the smoke shop and asked if Prince Albert was home? Make it a double.

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            • #246
              Ok, I'm probably going to be yelled at for this one, but I am surprised no one has mentioned "MJ" yet...

              (or were most of you not on the COTH BB back then?)

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              • #247
                Emily, I personally will not yell at you. To answer your question.... no, I was not around for MJ. So.............. who the hell is MJ?

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                • #248
                  I've been following this thread with much interest and have decided to finally weigh in. At the very beginning when some posters commented that the person in question might be some kid, I immediately discounted the idea, thinking it sounded too much like a stalker intent on creating fear through threats. It certainly scared all of us! Later when it was discovered that the person in question was, indeed, a kid, I was quite surprised; however, it did not change the fact that the situation involved a stalker intent on creating fear through threats. This was a very definite power and control game, played out by someone feeling very out of control in their life.

                  I was relieved when I learned that due to Bea's great detective abilities, Flshgordon was able to contact this kid's mother. Way to go, Bea! I think that knowledge helped a lot of us. Personally, I felt that a lot of the subsequent comments about what everyone would like to do to this kid were merely indicative of the fear this kid caused all of us and were merely a form of letting off steam in that respect. I never took any of those comments seriously, and I don't think anyone else did either, for the most part.

                  Normally, I would agree with Snowbird with respect to allowing parents to discipline their children, as opposed to immediately pressing charges with the police, thereby potentially causing even further problems down the road. Turning kids into the police without first trying to work things out with them could only cause further psychological problems in the kids. However, in this case, I don't feel any of us have any sense of closure here. I know I don't. If I were in Flshgordon's shoes, I would feel it my duty and obligation to other horse owners in the world to make sure I have properly ascertained that this problem has been taken care of, and I don't think I could move on in good conscience without doing so. I would call the mother back as merely a follow-up and ask her what she discovered and what has been done about it. For instance, if it turned out her daughter's friends did have her daughter's password, as she claimed might be the case, then I would need their names so that they could be reported to either their parents or the proper authorities--or both. If it turned out that the mother discovered what her daughter had been doing, then I would need to know what has been done about it. I would also use that opportunity to inform the mother about the other incident involving her daughter and her computer, and let her know that this is apparently more serious than we originally thought. If the mother's responses were satisfactory, then I would simply leave it at that, knowing the matter has been taken care of. But if I still did not feel that I received a satisfactory explanation regarding the situation, then I would proceed with the police.

                  As to the "kids will be kids" comments, well, parents have said something similar all these years with regard to young boys--"boys will be boys"--and it only enabled sexually aggressive behavior in boys, sometimes even creating future rapists. So I don't think this is something that should be written off as merely "kids stuff," because it is not. However, I don't think it's something that needs to be immediately reported to the police (unless we never knew the identity of the parents), as would be the case with adults. I think what Flshgordon did was the right thing--contacting the mother first and giving her a chance to address the problem. It's just that at this stage, we simply don't know if the mother has done anything at all about the problem, and that's what's needed for closure here. I, for one, can't even walk away from this thread until I know that this problem has been properly addressed.

                  Just my two cents, for what it's worth ...

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                  • #249
                    Mystic, How old are you? Do you have kids? How old are your kids? this is important.

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                    • #250
                      I'm 46, with no kids and no intention to have kids. I like the animal variety better. And if anyone wants to push the kid in question off on me, NO THANK YOU!!

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                      • #251
                        Mystic... God no.... please no kids at 46!!! And I admire a woman who knows she doesn't wants kids and DOESN"T have them! the reason for my query? things have changed since you and i were ding dong ditching. The internet. The kid that did this needs something other than a smackdown. Is she going to get it? Nope. What kids are up to today is shocking to our generation. Too bad most parents today are more concerned about what kind of car they drive, the club they belong to and when their next Botox appt.is. My bet is , this kid is involved in way more than terrorizing some horse owner.the simple fact of the matter is... no one posting here is going to make one bit of difference. Period.

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                        • #252
                          I couldn't agree more. And I, too, suspect this girl is into more than just the email thing. That's why I think a follow-up is necessary. But you're right ... it probably won't do much in the end--except ease our minds a little.

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                          • #253
                            Mystic... you and I would be better of talking about our favorite cocktails. Trust me... it is really ugly out there. Gross as a matter of fact. I like a good Kir Royale. Followed by....

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                            • #254
                              <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by xegeba:
                              Mystic... you and I would be better of talking about our favorite cocktails. Trust me... it is really ugly out there. Gross as a matter of fact. I like a good Kir Royale. Followed by....<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

                              Cocktails sound good! And I'm in California too, although not exactly where you live. Do you have children?

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                              • #255
                                <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Mystic:
                                I've been following this thread with much interest and have decided to finally weigh in. At the very beginning when some posters commented that the person in question might be some kid, I immediately discounted the idea, thinking it sounded too much like a stalker intent on creating fear through threats. It certainly scared all of us! Later when it was discovered that the person in question was, indeed, a kid, I was quite surprised; however, it did not change the fact that the situation involved a stalker intent on creating fear through threats. This was a very definite power and control game, played out by someone feeling very out of control in their life.

                                I was relieved when I learned that due to Bea's great detective abilities, Flshgordon was able to contact this kid's mother. Way to go, Bea! I think that knowledge helped a lot of us. Personally, I felt that a lot of the subsequent comments about what everyone would like to do to this kid were merely indicative of the fear this kid caused all of us and were merely a form of letting off steam in that respect. I never took any of those comments seriously, and I don't think anyone else did either, for the most part.

                                Normally, I would agree with Snowbird with respect to allowing parents to discipline their children, as opposed to immediately pressing charges with the police, thereby potentially causing even further problems down the road. Turning kids into the police without first trying to work things out with them could only cause further psychological problems in the kids. However, in this case, I don't feel any of us have any sense of closure here. I know I don't. If I were in Flshgordon's shoes, I would feel it my duty and obligation to other horse owners in the world to make sure I have properly ascertained that this problem has been taken care of, and I don't think I could move on in good conscience without doing so. I would call the mother back as merely a follow-up and ask her what she discovered and what has been done about it. For instance, if it turned out her daughter's friends did have her daughter's password, as she claimed might be the case, then I would need their names so that they could be reported to either their parents or the proper authorities--or both. If it turned out that the mother discovered what her daughter had been doing, then I would need to know what has been done about it. I would also use that opportunity to inform the mother about the other incident involving her daughter and her computer, and let her know that this is apparently more serious than we originally thought. If the mother's responses were satisfactory, then I would simply leave it at that, knowing the matter has been taken care of. But if I still did not feel that I received a satisfactory explanation regarding the situation, then I would proceed with the police.

                                As to the "kids will be kids" comments, well, parents have said something similar all these years with regard to young boys--"boys will be boys"--and it only enabled sexually aggressive behavior in boys, sometimes even creating future rapists. So I don't think this is something that should be written off as merely "kids stuff," because it is not. However, I don't think it's something that needs to be immediately reported to the police (unless we never knew the identity of the parents), as would be the case with adults. I think what Flshgordon did was the right thing--contacting the mother first and giving her a chance to address the problem. It's just that at this stage, we simply don't know if the mother has done anything at all about the problem, and that's what's needed for closure here. I, for one, can't even walk away from this thread until I know that this problem has been properly addressed.

                                Just my two cents, for what it's worth ... <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

                                Wow. Wish I could have put it half so well. Thank you for saying that.
                                In loving memory of Laura Jahnke.
                                A life lived by example, done too soon.
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                                • #256
                                  Dear Mystic,
                                  Thank you for reading my mind and expressing my thoughts much more clearly and concisely than I ever could have done all by myself.
                                  Yours indebtedly,
                                  sascha

                                  `'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'
                                  Mud? I'll give you mud.
                                  You can scoop it out of the sinkhole that tried to eat my car.
                                  Ahhhh, spring is here. The birds are singing, the trees are budding and the paddocks are making their annual transformation from cake mix to cookie dough.

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                                  • #257
                                    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>I think what Flshgordon did was the right thing--contacting the mother first and giving her a chance to address the problem. It's just that at this stage, we simply don't know if the mother has done anything at all about the problem, and that's what's needed for closure here <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

                                    I agree that Flshgordon did the right thing. What I don't see is how the rest of us need "closure" on this.

                                    Did any of the recipients of this girls whacked emails actually believe a trailer was going to pull up in the barnyard and haul the horse off?

                                    Her responses the the advertisements were so off base as to be ludicrous. I can easily see one of us having posted "You wouldn't believe the loony tunes person that responded to my ad, lol what a clown" and the entire thread being just another wierd people and the goofy things they'll say topic.

                                    Threatening email? I have been the recipient of a threatening email and can tell you this kids is not.

                                    Mine came the day after my mare died. It said "I wish you had died instead of your horse"

                                    I noted the email, found that it was from a corporation, went to their website and forwarded it to the Eastern Region president as well as the CEO. AFTER I called Fairfax County Police and reported it. The sender was fired after the police visited her employer.

                                    That's threatening, not some kid who is obviously in lala land and needs to have her parents put a lock on her computer access and find something constructive for her to do.

                                    Yes, Flshgordon was right in notifying the parents. Good work on tracking them down. It's up to them now, not the freaking bb, to worry about what their daughter is up to.

                                    Snowbird, I wish more people in this world had your patience and compassion.

                                    Friendship is Love without his wings
                                    -Lord Byron
                                    "If you would have only one day to live, you should spend at least half of it in the saddle."

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                                    • #258
                                      Now, I certainly see both sides. I respect both sides. What I take strong exception to is the notion that she's "just a kid so still learning" theory because be that as it may, I can tell you at fifteen she knows better. Being fifteen is no excuse. And you go, Mistic! I hate hearing the "kids/ boys will be kids/ boys" because although children test thier limits, this is NOT, IMHO, an acceptable way of doing so.

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                                      • #259
                                        <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Everythingbutwings:
                                        <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>I think what Flshgordon did was the right thing--contacting the mother first and giving her a chance to address the problem. It's just that at this stage, we simply don't know if the mother has done anything at all about the problem, and that's what's needed for closure here <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

                                        I agree that Flshgordon did the right thing. What I don't see is how the rest of us need "closure" on this. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
                                        lol, ETBW I was thinking the same thing! I hardly need closure every time someone I only know over the interent gets a prank email (no offense flshgordon )

                                        She's a kid. A stupid annoying kid who deserves a good talking to sure, but last time I checked being stupid and annoying were not yet felony offenses. She probably didn't realise how someone might react b/c she's young and lacks life experience....

                                        A real threatening email is un-mistakable.

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                                        • #260
                                          Being a 15 year old myself, I'd have to say that by this age people are old enough to know better. She needs to get at least a small consequence for her actions! At least by sending flsh a polite e-mail with an apology!

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