I would definitely be trying to get some of the snow off asap if you see things bowing. That is not good. As noted before both roof rakes and various rope contraptions can be pretty effective to reduce snow load.
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Wow, sorry to hear that! We got ours the spring after a similar winter. I remember how scary it was to hear of roofs collapsing all over the place and be looking at the 1.5 feet on our own roof, with not a shovel or snow rake left in any store in the area. It really wears on you when the snow keeps coming, and coming, and coming... Hope you guys successfully manage to get the snow off!Originally posted by SimpleSimon View PostGot it - will call you tonight.
And pony89 - there isn't a roof rake, snow shovel, snowblower, snow-removal-item-of-any-sort left in a store around here; neither near nor far. We've had a very snowy month - over 5 feet this month.
Can't wait for spring!
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Each yr here we lose several old but well built barns to snow. Here everyone gets together and helps each other shovel off their roofs. But you must be careful in removing it too. You need to do it so that the load on each side stays about the same. Last yr there were two barns lost AS they were being shoveled as the ppl did one side first without taking any from the other side. This caused a great imbalance of weight and the barns both fell with the ppl on the roofs still. One person was very hurt, they were all very lucky. This is something we deal with here all the time and the answer is to get the snow off. Please don't try to heat the roof up from the inside. You will create more ice and ice is heavier. The sun does a good enough job of that.
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I think I was your only "other" vote. I would suggest getting the snow off period...not just "some" as your other choice suggested.
I lived in Northern New York for several years and one winter we had a very heavy snowfall for that area (which is a lot) along with some wetter types of snow. Many buildings collapsed also...the larger newer dairy barns in particular. We helped our boarding farm owner shovel snow off her indoor arena where some of the horses were housed at night as you could see the trusses bowing under the weight of the snow.
A friend of mine had a very good idea for her metal barn/indoor combo roof. She got a very long ladder and went to the peak of the barn and drug a water hose along. She very carefully ONLY wet the bottom of the snow layer by holding the hose at the peak and letting it flow down. As the warmer water wet the lower layer of snow, it all slid off the roof. She did her entire roof that way in an hour versus hours. Obviously, it would not work well on shingles.
Just a suggestion but if I had that much snow on my barn, I'd be up there getting it off!
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Daydream, that's a very interesting idea with the water. That's what I was attempting to do by heating it up from inside...melt the bottom layer and have it slide off. A friend did that last weekend and it worked for her, but she was able to get her barn closed up tight. Mine has the stall door going out, so the heat went out, too.
SimpleSimon and her husband (who is a firefighter and has been dealing with this all week) have kindly volunteered to help me with this project tomorrow, before we get more snow. Sounds like a party to me.
Thanks everyone for your support!
Oh, and we're in eastern Washington.
Sandra
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Having shoveled snow off the house in Northern NY - I feel your pain. I used to be able to climb up on a ladder and then by the time I was done, I could nearly jump off the roof onto the snow banks I had created (I didn't though).
If your roof is shingled, at least you will have traction.
I've had to use Calcium Chloride on shingled roofs to melt ice that has built up under the snow. That might be another option.
Good Luck and stay safe.
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I just want to agree on looking into getting snow load insurance... my barn collapsed last spring with the snow load (thankfully only the indoor arena in the center, leaving the stalls safe, and nobody was in the indoor) and beyond the trauma of having their business destroyed and having to relocate all the horses, it was a huge financial loss for my barn owners, who had to rent a new farm, refund board checks, replace the round pen and a bunch of equipment... you don't realize that snow load isn't covered until the roof caves in! Good luck...
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Just be careful! And good luck!Originally posted by snbess View PostDaydream, that's a very interesting idea with the water. That's what I was attempting to do by heating it up from inside...melt the bottom layer and have it slide off. A friend did that last weekend and it worked for her, but she was able to get her barn closed up tight. Mine has the stall door going out, so the heat went out, too.
SimpleSimon and her husband (who is a firefighter and has been dealing with this all week) have kindly volunteered to help me with this project tomorrow, before we get more snow. Sounds like a party to me.
Thanks everyone for your support!
Oh, and we're in eastern Washington.
Sandra
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Well, the barn is clear of snow. It took the 3 of us 3.5 hours, which was actually faster than I thought it would take. I wouldn't have been able to finish it alone. I feel so much better having the snow off that roof. We're supposed to get about 7" tonight (3-7, but we're always on the high side). Then, some rain/snow mix and hopefully a couple days of melting.
A huge thanks to SimpleSimon and her husband!!! They rock!
Sandra
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