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  • <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> but that everyone needs to remember that their rights end when they infringe on the rights of others.
    <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

    Please remember this statement when GWB tries to get his brand of judges thru to the courts.

    How far off are we from a theocracy?

    Well, I guess I will change my signature now, but one more time won't hurt!

    Democrats were quick to point out that President Bush's budget creates a 1 trillion dollar deficit. The White House quickly responded with 'Hey, look over there, it's Saddam Hussein.'
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    • OK good for them for catching him. But this all makes me feel sick, not coming from North America I can't see any much joy from any of it. He is an evil man, but really.
      All I am saying.

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      • <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by BaldEagle:

        <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> I believe we're the ones who put him in power to begin with, as a countermanoeuver against the then-Iranian government.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

        No they didn't

        <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

        Yes, it's a matter of record that we (the US, not you up north) suported Saddam's rise to power and provided/sold him some of the very arms we're now hunting. It was in hopes that Saddam's regime would counter the radical government of Iran, which has since toppled. Our administration at the time was big on selling arms to less than savory groups

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        • I have a definite personal beef against Saddam, having spent 6 weeks back in 1991 listening to Scuds exploding overhead--NOT my happiest memories. Maybe as part of his punishment he can be locked up in a sealed room with several small, healthy, active children, hyped out of their minds and not allowed to leave the house for 2 weeks. Evil laugh....


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          • cheeky_appy- Your post sums up what people all day have been telling me. Saddam was a horrible man- someone who needed to be stopped, but most of them (and these are people FROM the United States, the middle east, Europe, etc) are VERY upset that the United States went against the UN (remember them?) and decided to do what "we" (and I use the term loosely- I was NOT proud to be an American today) did. We are NOT the international police, we do NOT have the right to do what we did.

            Dressager
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            • <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Khataan:
              Please remember this statement when GWB tries to get his brand of judges thru to the courts.

              How far off are we from a theocracy?

              <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

              Why did the Dems fight so hard to keep a conservative Hispanic out? Wonder what would happen if we'd done the same if a Democratic president had tried getting a liberal Hispanic (or African-American or...). Can we say "race card" here? Both parties work to get their own "brand" of judges. I just believe they use different tactics to keep the ones they DON'T want off. We're a VERY long way off from a theocracy. Or did I miss something on the news?

              This discussion was headed in a very interesting direction until the Bush-bashing started again. What happens NOW is on everyone's mind and going back to what SHOULD'VE happened means nothing. I personally would love to hear more from starlady as she obviously has FIRST-HAND knowledge of life in the middle-east.

              [This message was edited by BelladonnaLily on Dec. 15, 2003 at 07:42 AM.]

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              • I'm not going toget into a big debate over this. everyone has their own opinion and view on this subject and I dont think ANYONE knows all of the facts on any of this, I know I dont. I dont know who put him to power and why we didnt get rid of him in Desert Storm, but, I do know that IF he did all the things that he is said to have done, and by the looks of his palaces and then the looks of how his people lived, and the trade center disasters and all of the other things, then he needs to be delt with accordingly...and maybe I'm a huge redneck here, but as it was said on the radio this morning...lets find a tall tree and a short piece of rope and make it public. All of the money they have found needs to put BACK into that country to help the people whom he stole it from.
                End of my ranting, as I said, Im not getting in a huge debate with this and you can flame me all you want. I had family in the pentagon that day and I have family overseas who are out there alone this holiday season while their families sit and wait for that awful phone call. Treat him as he has taught his people and us...he deserves it. Get it over with and bring our families home.

                I AM a proud american and will ALWAYS be, I may not agree with everything that is done, but that is my right, but it WILL NEVER make me say to anyone that I am not proud to be where I am from and not proud to be here with the freedoms that I have...if you are not proud to be here then leave, my family is fighting for you and yours and they dont even know any of them, so to say you are not proud disgusts me and hurts, if my father dies so your kids can live a better life and they are not proud then, again, please find somewhere else to live.

                Stepping off of my soapbox now.

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                • Thank you BelladonnaLilly, but to tell you the truth, I come to this BB to ESCAPE from the little stresses and strains of life in the middle east.


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                  • Excuse me, but I thought it was already brought up in this topic that Saddam did NOT have anything to do with 9/11.

                    I am not sorry that Saddam is out of power- I am happy. I feel that how he treated his people was wrong. The problem I have is how WE dealt with it. WE (as the United States) did NOT have the right to go in there, especially after the UN said no... or are we "above the law"?

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                    • [QUOTE]Originally posted by dressager:
                      Excuse me, but I thought it was already brought up in this topic that Saddam did NOT have anything to do with 9/11.


                      I cant believe that he knew nothing about it or had nothing to do with it. he might not have, but i just cant believe it.

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                      • Ditto BelladonnaLilly. My thoughts exactly!

                        Since when do liberals hold the monopoly on the ability to keep personal and religious beliefs out when making judicial decisions? Why are people so afraid of Christians?

                        And bear with me a moment while I bring up what "patriot" means. Definition per dictionary.com <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>pa·tri·ot ( P ) Pronunciation Key (ptr-t, -t)
                        n.
                        One who loves, supports, and defends one's country.
                        <HR></BLOCKQUOTE> And since some people believe that conservatives, even moderate conservatives like myself do not tell the truth, here is the link Dictionary.com definition for patriot I do not understand how someone can love this country, call themselves a patriot, and then claim to be ashamed to be an American. It defies the very definition of patriot. But then, since so many want to rewrite history so that Christianity has no basis in the formation of our country, I guess they can rewrite the dictionary, too.

                        Once again, I congratulate our troops, the Iraqi government, and the Iraqi people on their success in capturing this evil man. Any method they used to do this is the right way in my book. No success is better than the success in righting a wrong, if indeed we were responsible for this evil man being in power in the first place.

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                        • I love my country, but I do not blindly support my country, and I most certainly will not defend something I do not support.

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                          • Who cares if he had anything to do with 9/11? I know that was a horrible thing, but there ARE other places in the world besides the USA. Saddam had EVERYTHING to do with the mass slaughter of HALF A MILLION of his own people. That's good (bad) enough for me!

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                            • Thank you DCM. I wish people would think about the others who are helping keep our country safe, even if they dont believe in the cause..support them anyway. I want my family home too, and I dont know everything about whats going on...but I do support EVERY single person that is over there helping and giving thier lives! God be with them this season.

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                              • <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by dcm:
                                Since when do liberals hold the monopoly on the ability to keep personal and religious beliefs out when making judicial decisions? Why are people so afraid of Christians?
                                <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

                                Ever heard of a liberal Democratic Christian I have many at my church--I am a liberal Quaker (a historic peace church)

                                Funny thing is 2 weeks ago my pastor was talking about war and his different main takes on it were this:
                                1. By pulling the trigger of a gun and killing someone we are "playing" God by deciding when and where someone else will die.
                                2. When we have fought otherChristian countries, we were Christians fighting other Christians!!

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                                • <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>And bear with me a moment while I bring up what "patriot" means. Definition per dictionary.com

                                  <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>pa·tri·ot ( P ) Pronunciation Key (ptr-t, -t) n.
                                  One who loves, supports, and defends one's country.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

                                  And since some people believe that conservatives, even moderate conservatives like myself do not tell the truth, here is the link Dictionary.com definition for patriot I do not understand how someone can love this country, call themselves a patriot, and then claim to be ashamed to be an American. It defies the very definition of patriot. But then, since so many want to rewrite history so that Christianity has no basis in the formation of our country, I guess they can rewrite the dictionary, too.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

                                  It's probably worth mentioning that to love, support and defend one's country is something entirely different from supporting the actions or philosophy of any particular facet of the leadership, elected or otherwise. Different people have different ideas about what is best for their country. That doesn't make them unpatriotic.

                                  Because if this were the case, then I think anyone who doesn't wholeheartedly love, support and defend everything that Teddy Kennedy and Tom DeLay loves, supports and defends is unpatriotic.

                                  So now that we are ALL unpatriotic, can we just leave this interpretation of what patriotism means in the round file where it belongs?

                                  It was soooo tempting to reduce this post (and thread) to Godwin's Law, but I resisted!

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                                  • One down, one to go! GO TROOPS!!!

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                                    • Well said dcm.

                                      Would you rather live in a country like Iraq?
                                      Agree or not, you have freedoms here that you wouldn't have anywhere else. That makes me proud AND glad to be an american.

                                      Way to go troops! That's who we really should be proud of
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                                      • <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by DMK:

                                        Because if this were the case, then I think anyone who doesn't wholeheartedly love, support and defend _everything_ that Teddy Kennedy and Tom DeLay loves, supports and defends is unpatriotic.

                                        <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

                                        No, but being ashamed to be an American is unpatriotic. Going overseas and telling people of other countries you are ashamed of our President is unpatriotic. That you disagree with what our country does is not in itself unpatriotic. I may not agree with everything our country does, but I'll be damned if I will not support or defend it. I'll be damned if I don't stand behind our troops.

                                        Nitro's Mommy - My comment was in reference to how hard the Democrats and the liberals fought against some very qualified individuals who GW nominated for judgeships simply because they were conservative Christians. They fought hardest against non-white conservative Christians. If conservatives object to any non-white for any reason, they are labeled racist. Liberals and Democrats seem to set different sets of standards for conservative Christians than they do for themselves.

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                                        • The greater challenge is creating a world in which Hussein and his ilk can no longer exist and terrorize people. There are probably 20 equally brutal regimes in power, and 100's of deviants willing to risk all to take their place.

                                          The beauty of America is the ability to protest and gripe and live without worry that we or someone we love will be dragged off and shot by those in power. I don't like Bush for many reasons, but I respect his desire to allow others to enjoy the same freedon from fear that I enjoy.

                                          His cowardice is shocking - I'd have thought he'd kill himself....

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