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  • #61


    Hilarious! I actually almost spit out my coffee.

    Nice, LMH!

    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by LMH:
    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by twotrudoc:
    i take it this has been discussed before?? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

    Do a search on Parelli, NH or anything related, grab a LARGE amount of ________ (adult beverage) and start reading.

    Cancel all dates for the next 3 weeks-it will take you that long. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
    My blog: Change of Pace - Retraining a standardbred via dressage

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    • #62
      Sportpony chic-

      Are you involved enough with Parelli that you are familiar with Karen Rohlf? She is the affiliate dressage instructor with Parelli.

      Because of your background, I thought you might have looked into what she is teaching? How she is combining dressage and Parelli?

      If so I would be interested in hearing your thoughts on it. Using a private message may be safer for that topic though.

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      • #63
        My only gripe about Parelli is that his show is all demonstration, no training tips are provided. If you want your horse to perform as his does, you have to buy all his gadgets, celery sticks, and learning packages. Clinton Anderson actually shows you how to do the exercises on his program. Yes, he wants to market his stuff but he's less blatent about it than Parelli. You can watch a CA show and feel like you learned something. When you watch Parelli, it's all grandstanding and see how great we are.
        Ride Mustangs - An American Original!

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        • #64
          better wait to do a search, not enough time before work to get bombed!!

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          • #65
            CARROT sticks!! CARROT sticks! or maybe celery is funnier!!

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            • #66
              mustangrider - I agree with you on CA. He's an excellent gentlemen and horseman and I have a great deal of respect for him.

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              • #67
                Hmmm... I've only used a mecate with a REAL (not mechanical) hackamore. So are you guys talking about a snaffle with slobber straps over a bosal with a mecate?? Don't think I'd tie with a mecate in that situation either. I HAVE tied with a mecate on a hackamore, but it would not be my preference to do so. And yes, I have tucked the mecate in my belt, loosely. More often I've wrapped it around the horn or tied it up, most frequently, with the saddle strings. Certainly, to my understanding, it was not intended to "keep the horse from running off when you fall off" ROFLOL

                And I'm much more a DQ/HJ/Eventer person, though I have some western experience.

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                • #68
                  <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Two Simple:
                  mustangrider - I agree with you on CA. He's an excellent gentlemen and horseman and I have a great deal of respect for him. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

                  Is he a gentleman before or after you attach his vice breaker to his...._______ (adult....beverage...oops wrong post)?

                  (sorry couldn't resist that one).

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                  • #69
                    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by mustangrider:
                    My only gripe about Parelli is that his show is all demonstration, no training tips are provided. If you want your horse to perform as his does, you have to buy all his gadgets, celery sticks, and learning packages. Clinton Anderson actually shows you how to do the exercises on his program. You can watch a CA show and feel like you learned something. When you watch Parelli, it's all grandstanding and see how great we are. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>To be fair, I think there are two types of shows - I've seen the demo programs and thought the same as you - I didn't want to see a commercial. But lately they have had shows on that he does give "instruction", although I get much more from other trainer's programs than his.

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                    • #70
                      I could be wrong ….. But I was under the impression that the traditional use of the macate was with a hackamore bridle! So, the whole bit causing a problem would not be an issue.

                      For those that would like to read a nice article on Californios and hackamore training I will leave this link, it is worth reading. http://www.thecalifornios.com/Newsletter.stm

                      Sandy M – In my search for a trainer in my area I have encountered so many bad old “cowboy” type trainers I would welcome an accomplished Natural horseman to train my filly for me. I have only two trainers on my list that in asking around I have not heard horror stories about. My friend has a hand full of youngsters to be trained and she is on her 4th trainer; each trainer has scared her horses both mentally and physically. The ruff and tuff starve-em, beet-em up and leave-em tied up approach to training is alive and well.

                      I would much rather see a horse being trained with natural horseman methods than no method at all. I watch many of the TV trainers and get something from all of them and discard some of their methods too. I am a believer that to be good at something you have to do it often so I feel the biggest danger of these shows is not their methods but the fact that they are promoting that everyone can do it too!

                      We have riding Instructor certification why don’t we have horse trainer certification?
                      No hour of life is wasted that is spent in the saddle. ~Winston Churchill

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                      • #71
                        Unfortunately, we switched to comcast and they do not offer RFD-TV so I haven't seen Parelli lately (or CA for that matter) and didn't know PNH is now doing instructional shows. For those who get comcast, I checked with them and they have no intention of adding RFD in the near future.

                        I knew PNH named his stick after some kind of vegetable, couldn't remember which one. Carrot stick. Okay.
                        Ride Mustangs - An American Original!

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                        • #72
                          I hear what you're saying, MSP, but there are always BAD trainers around. Since I've always "ridden my own" while working WITH a trainer and not turned my horse over to a trainer, I've never had to worry about that sort of thing: If I don't like what the trainer tells me to do, I can question it or refused to do it. I've always thoroughly investigated any trainer before I'd work with them, and would certainly triple-check if I were actually going to leave a colt to be started. So, basically, I'm saying bad trainers are bad trainers, good trainers are good trainers, and if you pick a good one - and most ARE non-abusive - you don't necessarily need a "certified" NH-type trainer. A good dressage trainer, a good h-J trainer, a good event trainer, a good WESTERN trainer, is NOT going to bronc out your horse. I just don't like the presentation of PNH as if it's the ONLY way BECAUSE "ALL" other trainers and their methods are are abusive - they aren't. Besides many others I may have worked with, I've owned about six horses over the last 25+ years, and every single one of them has, after my handling, had good ground manners and good behavior under saddle, no trouble trailer loading, etc. - and believe me, I'm only an average ammy - but with a lot of time under my belt (but not a mecate ) and I've never used "official" PNH - though I'm sure there's some overlap (but no round pens or carrot sticks on my side).

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                          • #73
                            LMH,
                            I am familiar with Karen Rohlf, I met her the summer she first rode in Pagosa when I was there with the O'Connor's. I would ride with her in a heartbeat and am on a list to contact if she ever comes out west...
                            Life is short, do it now. www.dleestudio.com
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                            My CANTER cutie, Steely Dan - IL
                            My Exceller cutie, Ace (aka FiftyThreeCards)- NY

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                            • #74
                              What bothers me about Parelli is that it can be dangerous in the hands of a greenie. I think, as with any other discipline/approach, with someone experienced to guide you it's fine. Iu have a friend who has had serious problems with her horse - very spooky - and while, to her credit, she realized she needed help, she's beengoing at it on her own. And there is a huge amount of marketing involved (she has shown me her savvy books and pamphlets andthe one you put your stickers in when you have achieved a goal). Now, i don't see the difference between a carrot stick and a dressage whip used in in hand work. And while I could understand and appreciate many of the "games" it seems to me that these are best applied on a horse-by-horse basis.

                              I have never done Parelli, but figured out how to communicate with my horse that if he steps on the lead rope, he stops, and I'll take care of it. I think many of these things are good horse sense, some of which you may figure out on your own, and all of which can be shown to you by any experienced horse person.
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                              • #75
                                Most of the trainers that practice some type of Natural Horsemanship use some sort of cue stick. Parelli's is called a "carrot stick". From what I remember from one of the shows he named it because it should be used somewhere in the middle of a carrot and a stick. I think alot of his ideas have merit, I just don't like the marketing package. I watch as many of the training shows that RFD has and I learn a little bit with each one. Even picked up some tips from the Extreme Cowboy Race.
                                To many, the words love, hope and dreams are synonymous with horses. ~ Oliver Wendell Holmes

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                                • #76
                                  <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by mp:

                                  Spazabians, Founder of the Owners of Spastic Arabians support group:

                                  If Parelli works for you, great. But in my experience, there are no spastic Arabians ... only spastic owners. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

                                  I did like the little spastic owners part...cute! It does work for me, yes. But my two signature lines are unrelated, if thats what you are implying (but I'm not sure if you are implying anyting at all, so please don't pounce on that)
                                  ~Kate
                                  Owned by Lit, 1988 Russian Arabian
                                  Member of the Bareback Riders Clique, Proud Closet Canterer

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                                  • #77
                                    I'll tell you what Parelli needs to preach-SAFER DRIVING!!! His horde of groupies are dangerous on our local roads! I am dumbfounded at such speeds (well in excess of posted speed limits), & total lack of consideration for riders!

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                                    • #78
                                      Hmmm thats something apparently Pat has not taught, road safety. Wonder how his fledglings would fare if they were riding on the road and someone came hurling along!

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                                      • #79
                                        STOP, oh, you bad, bad fingers. Must be feeding them the wrong food as they are out of control and pressing letters. Oh, no. The Ps being concerned about safety of anykind would be a nice change.

                                        <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Sannois:
                                        Hmmm thats something apparently Pat has not taught, road safety. Wonder how his fledglings would fare if they were riding on the road and someone came hurling along! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
                                        marty

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                                        • #80
                                          <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by blubays:
                                          STOP, oh, you bad, bad fingers. Must be feeding them the wrong food as they are out of control and pressing letters. Oh, no. The Ps being concerned about safety of anykind would be a nice change.
                                          </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

                                          ~ British Men Appreciation Clique ~

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