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  • Riding the Old Saddles

    I still use a Stubben Loreley for jumping (won it in West Germany in a show as a junior)...I'm always being asked, "is that a new model?" I get a nice glazed look when I break out a Pariani and explain the wonders of a saddle that doesn't look like something from the Spanish Riding Academy.

    Anyone else still riding "classic" (hmmmm....OLD) style saddles?
    "Sic Gorgiamus Allos Subjectatos Nunc"

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    LOL, come ON Trak, you KNOW that would so be me!

    Kieffer Munchen A/P (dressage type) here of about 1970 vintage;

    Passier jumping saddle of about 1960 vintage.

    The only new one I have is a cheapo Argentinian CC that I got b/c it was an inexpensive way to get a custom tree on a hacking saddle for my (late) shark-fin-withered TB. I have to admit I like the thing more than I expected to, but I doubt it will fit the next horse, darn it!
    "The standard you walk by is the standard you accept."--Lt. Gen. David Morrison, Austalian Army Chief

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    • #3
      I still use my almost 40 year old Stubben Rex and an old Passier VS.
      I am selling the Passier VD I had because my legs refused to grow any more and the flap is just a little too long.
      All three saddles are super comfortable.
      I don't need three English saddles any more, don't ride enough any more and everyone here uses a western saddle.

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      • #4
        I love my Stubben Rex. It looks brand-new and it is so comfortable, for me and my broad-shouldered pony. I don't know why they don't make them anymore...
        "Remain relentlessly cheerful."

        Graphite/Pastel Portraits

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        • #5
          I love my Stubben Parzival from ~1970.

          Christa

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          • #6
            I was riding in an old Candyman flat-as-a-board CC (almost identical to a Crosby Prix des Nations Sovereign) and I loved it... I got my new saddle and I actually miss that saddle a bit, maybe not super comfy but very easy to ride in. I've been keeping my eye out for an old PDN or similar.

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            • #7
              My Ancient Passier is well past drinking age... and as I was chastised for saying not too long ago--I'd sell my soul to find another VD for the young'uns. I have an auto-email search and every day I click through the new Passiers listed. For... um... like 16 months now.

              I'm not opposed to cush and support. Not at all. But my position is the best it's ever been according to my teacher... and my Princess and the Pea pony is happy.
              InnisFailte Pinto Sporthorses & Coloured Cobs
              ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

              Bits are like cats, what's one more? (Petstorejunkie)

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              • #8
                My jumping saddle is older than I am. It's a Pariani that has got to be 35+ years old.

                I also have a Kieffer dressage saddle from the 1980s. It's an olive green color (no, not mold, the leather is actually that color), has just a bit of padding on the flaps and tiny knee rolls. The seat is hard as a rock but quite comfortable.
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                • #9
                  I just bought a 1986 Passier PSL, extra wide tree. The seller shipped it out today. My 1976 Stubben Wotan doesn't fit me or my horses any longer so it's a relic in the tackroom until it can find a new home.

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                  • #10
                    My 'young' saddle is a passier PS Baum circa 1967.
                    The Beck Morrow made saddle I ride was made in 1886. Not a typo - it a ss so you ride what you can find if it fits and is in good condition.
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                    • #11
                      I ride in my trainers 30+ year old Hermes. LOVE it.

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                        Originally posted by fourmares View Post
                        I ride in my trainers 30+ year old Hermes. LOVE it.
                        When riding as a junior in the late 60's at WBTA shows, one of the other juniors rode in a Hermes saddle. Her mom would walk around the show grounds with the Hermes saddle bag over her arm so we wouldn't miss what saddle they owned.

                        Hermes, at least back then, were famous for never fitting a horse as it came "out of the box". The owners discovered the wonders of bump pads, pommel pads, banjo pads etc. I was lucky, my Pariani's seemed to fit TBs beautifully.
                        "Sic Gorgiamus Allos Subjectatos Nunc"

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                        • #13
                          My daughter is 9 and her western pony saddle is over 50 years old and she is going to learn hunt this year in a 45 year old Rex. The tradition continues...
                          The View from Here

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Trakehner View Post
                            I still use a Stubben Loreley for jumping (won it in West Germany in a show as a junior)...I'm always being asked, "is that a new model?" I get a nice glazed look when I break out a Pariani and explain the wonders of a saddle that doesn't look like something from the Spanish Riding Academy.

                            Anyone else still riding "classic" (hmmmm....OLD) style saddles?
                            I loved my old Pariani that had to get trashed a few years ago......I have no idea how old it was.....I bought it used ages ago..........and it finally got "beyond repair". I now have an old County and and old Passier. First I shop used because I can't afford 3K for a new saddle......and more so because I like the old flat ones better!
                            Providence Farm
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                            • #15
                              My stubben is from late 70's or early 80's and looks very new next to the Barnsby I am currently using.

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                              • #16
                                I still have my Pariani. LOFFED that saddle. Alas, it no longer fits my fat butt. But when I started riding again, I searched long and hard and found something that pretty near duplicated my old PDS. I couldn't possibly ride in one on those new fangled things that resemble an over-stuffed chair.
                                'Computers are useless. They can only give you answers.'
                                - Pablo Picasso

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                                • #17
                                  I have been looking for a Loreley in good shape for some time. They are GREAT saddles! Unfortunately, hard to find in a 19" seat size, lol.

                                  I have an old Siegfried that I just adore, and I just bought another of the same vintage for my daughter. Both are late 70s or early 80s models. I had an early 70s siegfried VSD that I SHOOT myself for selling a few years back... My husband has a circa 1920s McClellan that he trail rides his Anglo gelding in. We had the rigging re-done, but it's in otherwise GREAT shape!

                                  They really don't make 'um like they used to!
                                  "To be an equestrian in the classical sense is not just to be a rider.
                                  It is a position in life." --Charles de Kunffy

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                                  • #18
                                    I still drag out my old Crosby Mark VI that I bought used in 1984. I have a newer Bates cc Caprilli, but it often feels like too much saddle....

                                    We have an old Rex from about 1976 and an almost as old 14" PDN that the girls won't let me sell. They're in the tack closet (brought out to be conditioned periodically) waiting for the next generation to come along.
                                    Y'all ain't right!

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                                    • #19
                                      Originally posted by SLW View Post
                                      I just bought a 1986 Passier PSL, extra wide tree. The seller shipped it out today.
                                      Don't take this the wrong way, but I hate you now.

                                      I mean, not in the hate YOU way...
                                      InnisFailte Pinto Sporthorses & Coloured Cobs
                                      ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

                                      Bits are like cats, what's one more? (Petstorejunkie)

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                                      • #20
                                        Old saddles seem to find me -

                                        I have a two dressage saddles - one is a Passier that is approx 40 years old and a Jimmy's 21st Century (monoflap) - not sure on the age, but I don't think he makes saddles anymore. A Pariani event saddle, also monoflap (can you see a trend here!) that is over 30 yrs old. A Crosby saddleseat saddle that's a least 20 years old. Can't forget my western barrel saddle - 25+ years old and of course, the crown jewel, my Steele sidesaddle that is approx 30 years old. All are in great shape and used on a regular basis . . .
                                        http://fromdressagehorsetocowpony.blogspot.com/

                                        "I am still under the impression that there is nothing alive quite so beautiful as a thoroughbred horse." -- John Galsworthy

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