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  • OTTB's and weight carrying

    Purely out of interest, I have always thought of TB's as being the lightweights of the horse world, in as much as they are bred to carry very small people very fast.

    When they retire from the track and start to lead different lives, how do they cope with starting to carry 'normal' size riders around?

    Is there ever a situation where they can carry greater than normal weights around, or are they strictly for the normally fluffy?

    This guy for instance, 10 years old and 17hh and retiring sound. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C2F4...ature=youtu.be

    What would you see him carrying? I remember back in the day, a lot of the local stables had OTTB's and everyone rode them, I do remember bigger people riding, but being a skinny teenager at the time my memory and perception could be way off!!
    I'm not sure if I grew out of stupid or ran out of brave.

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    I know a 10 year old 17 hand TB that is built very similar to that horse in the video that carries a 200 lb man plus his 50+ lb saddle with no issues.
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    • #3
      depends on the type.

      Yes, all cope well with carrying 'normal' size people. Heck, I don't think the exercise riders are all jockey size.

      We bred for a while, some were a little smaller (one filly barely broke pony size, and that coming from a rather tall dam), others were rather WB looking. Now granted, nobody in the family weighed 200 pounds but they all did alright with normal grown men riding them.

      They are horses, after all.

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      • #4
        They can carry weight the same as any other horse. They are indeed bred to go fast, the addition of the small people versus larger people is to facilitate that speed, not because they 'can't' carry a normal sized rider.

        10 years old and retiring sound? Worth his weight in gold, I'd take him in a heartbeat.

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          #5
          I guess I just get influenced by the hype about breeding ever lighter in the bone, and that is why there appear to be more accidents where racers break a leg or something on the track. I now have visions in my mind of glass boned fragile guys who will snap as soon as look at you
          I'm not sure if I grew out of stupid or ran out of brave.

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          • #6
            I think most 17 hand horses can carry just about anyone that can manage to get on a horse. I think that it is the strenuousness of the work that becomes an issue. So, if you have a heavier rider on a horse you wouldn't want to work the crap out of them without making sure they are fit. But that shouldn't happen to any horse with any rider.
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              Originally posted by KBC View Post
              I guess I just get influenced by the hype about breeding ever lighter in the bone, and that is why there appear to be more accidents where racers break a leg or something on the track. I now have visions in my mind of glass boned fragile guys who will snap as soon as look at you
              The video shows a horse not light of bone, and super well mannered to boot. A 'fragile' race horse doesn't make it to racing at 4, let alone 10. I have just gone googling and I think the You Tube listed name is a typo, in any event I see a 10 yo gelding Swiss Ski who had 21 wins from ages 2 to 9, placed this year, and won $322k. Looking at the horse, his pedigree, his obvious high level of care throughout his life, I would assume that he is retiring to a good home and second career. But if not, tell me where he is, I'll go rescue him.

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                He is up north in Manitoba, I guess they breed them tough up here.
                I'm not sure if I grew out of stupid or ran out of brave.

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                • #9
                  I have two TB's, one is 15.2&1/2h and the other is a smidge below 15.2h. I am fairly fluffy and neither of them have a problem carrying me. Now mind you, we are not competing at jumping or any speed work, but often go out for several hour trail rides on varying terrain. The larger mare is 20 yo and I have owned her since she was a yearling. The younger/smaller mare is 7yo and I got her in Nov. of last year.

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                  • #10
                    The exercise riders at the training center were mid weight guys at about 170 pounds tops. That looks like a very nice prospect and his build at 17 hands is just right, not weedy at all.

                    If I were in riding shape I wouldn't worry about him being able to take my weight at all, he really looks like he carries himself well, he runs lightly, is well mannered to bathe, definitely a horse to go check out.
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                    • #11
                      My 16.3 TB carries me just fine--I have no idea what I weigh, but I'm 6' and a size 14/16. I did all of his off-track schooling and he's never had an issue jumping or doing low level dressage or chasing cows all around some big hills. When I was horse shopping, I was specifically looking for an OTTB with good size and a strong coupling and topline because I'm a bigger rider. I pay attention to saddle fit and try to ride very lightly. Interestingly, I can put anyone my height on him, but a jockey-sized rider tends to get the "WTF?!?!?" ears at first.

                      ETA the horse in the OP is absolutely my type--big, solid, and looks like such a gentleman.
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                        Originally posted by KBC View Post
                        Purely out of interest, I have always thought of TB's as being the lightweights of the horse world, in as much as they are bred to carry very small people very fast.

                        When they retire from the track and start to lead different lives, how do they cope with starting to carry 'normal' size riders around?

                        Is there ever a situation where they can carry greater than normal weights around, or are they strictly for the normally fluffy?

                        This guy for instance, 10 years old and 17hh and retiring sound. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C2F4...ature=youtu.be

                        What would you see him carrying? I remember back in the day, a lot of the local stables had OTTB's and everyone rode them, I do remember bigger people riding, but being a skinny teenager at the time my memory and perception could be way off!!
                        Go watch morning workouts at a track and you will see plenty of normal size riders - it's nothing to see a 6' tall 180+lb guy working them.
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                          Originally posted by KBC View Post
                          He is up north in Manitoba, I guess they breed them tough up here.
                          He's sure tough to be retiring sound at 10, but there are lots of "war horses" out there all over the US and Canada (and internationally) that are racing as older animals. We just rarely ever hear about them, that's all, but the breakdowns get press. Others have already pointed out that plenty of exercise riders are normal size, and with the right conditioning there's no reason not to expect an OTTB to carry "regular" weight in a second career. They're not made of glass.
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                          • #14
                            My OTTB retired sound at the end of his 11 year old year. I brought him home 6 days after his 90th race.

                            He's the most accident prone horse I've ever met, but he carries me just fine. He's 16.1.
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                            • #15
                              They can almost all carry normal adults without blinking. I wouldn't say put someone 300lbs on a horse, but I'd say that about almost any horse. Unless a horse has serious injuries (I'd prefer to be at my lightest, which is still well over jockey weight, for Tice if I decide to try him, as he has ankle pins), and one racing past five usually won't have those, they're not fragile flowers. Lucky's worked (ie track style) with me up and the major difference is without a featherweight they go a lot slower.
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                              • #16
                                Geez I just went looking for the listing in Canada, $3000 firm is a bargain in my opinion. Described as- although he won $400k, his favorite gait is the walk.

                                http://www.finalfurlong.ca/

                                Looking at all the listings, there are (and were in 2013) bargains to be had.

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                                • #17
                                  Originally posted by ryansgirl View Post
                                  Go watch morning workouts at a track and you will see plenty of normal size riders - it's nothing to see a 6' tall 180+lb guy working them.
                                  Not to mention jump jockeys RACE at 140-160lbs.
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                                  • #18
                                    Originally posted by Beverley View Post
                                    Geez I just went looking for the listing in Canada, $3000 firm is a bargain in my opinion. Described as- although he won $400k, his favorite gait is the walk.

                                    http://www.finalfurlong.ca/

                                    Looking at all the listings, there are (and were in 2013) bargains to be had.
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                                    • #19
                                      Hey there was a chestnut, maybe two!

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