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  • Part boarder + Training rides doesn't work?

    I have had a part boarder for almost 1 year, most recently I've been unable to ride. 6 months ago we moved barns, at new location BO has talented 20 yr old daughter who competes with a string of horses at the 3'6" level. I'm primarily a dressage rider, my part boarder does a bit of everything but doesn't jump higher than 2'0 fences. My horse is honest but green with fences even though she's 12 yrs old, just hasn't done much jumping so runs a bit to the fences.

    When we first moved to this barn we spoke about having 20 yr old hop on horse, part boarder was keen to watch & learn how to better ride horse over fences. Anyways since I haven't been able to ride lately and won't be back for another 6 weeks I thought now would be a good time to get 20 yr old to do some training rides.

    I offered to have them on weekdays so as not to take away a ride from part boarder but she wanted it to be on a weekend so she could watch. So 20 yr old rode my mare this past weekend, then right after part boarder says she thinks it's unfair that she has to pay to ride while this 20 yr old gets paid to ride.

    I'm completely surprised by her reaction, I never would have gone down this route if I thought it would have upset our relationship. Does part boarding & training rides not work together? Also she said that 20 yr old basically did the same thing as she does with my horse. Again I don't know what to say, part boarder has admitted many times she's not confident jumping due to bad experiences on other horses. 20 yr old rode my horse over a grid then some fences put together and made it look really easy. Looked like my horse was a seasoned jumper.

    I think I'm going to call off the whole training ride arrangement & just leave arrangement as it is but I'm quite disappointed. It was really fun to see my horse jumping well. Any opinions on this? Do you guys see it from part boarders side? Is it unfair to pay someone to ride when they're paying me to ride horse?

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    She's your mare. I would consider having the 20 year old ride is no different then having a trainer ride. It doesn't sound to me like your part boarder is a trainer of any discipline much less jumping.

    It is absolutely not unreasonable for you to have paid training rides put on your mare by a professional. If you judge that this 20 year old is qualified as long as it doesn't fall on the half leasers days its really not any of her business.

    It sounds to me like the half boarder just got a little jealous and might fancy herself a better rider then she is ... but not a good enough one to recognize that the 20 year old IS doing something different even if its subtle.

    If it was me I'd want to see more then one ride out of the 20 year old on the horse before I committed to training rides but that's just my nature and preference. I've seen one ride go well and the next right to hell in a hand cart with an issue arrived and the rider didn't handle it IMO well.
    "I would not beleive her if her tongue came notorized"

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    • #3
      I'm a little confused as to what a part boarder is- but no I agree with you . Very presumptuous of the 2 ft jumper.

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        #4
        Part boarder/part sharer: pays half of horse's expenses for half of the riding days in a week.

        I think the problem was that 20 yr old made my horse look really good and the jumping look easy. Grid was higher than we've jumped but not so much to stress the horse, it was more about what was going on between fences. Still I'm surprised as I've chatted many times with PB after a ride about how my horse gets all fired up when aimed at a fence and goes a bit on auto pilot. I thought she would recognize the difference the experienced jumper rider made.

        It's been a good relationship between us for 1 yr so I do take her feelings seriously. By her reaction I thought I had done something really out of the ordinary. I remember many years ago part boarding, I was looking for a new horse to share and the owner I met was also letting a teen at the barn ride the same horse for free. I declined to part board the horse as I thought it was an unfair arrangement.
        BOs 20 yr old daughter however is trying to make it to the national level & a career out of horses, she's put in the time to earn her skill and I wouldn't ever think to compare myself to someone who rides multiple horses almost every day of the week.

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        • #5
          totally agree, Lynnwood

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          • #6
            In private, I would be upset and go home and call my sister and say bad things about my clueless part-boarder. And I would be really tempted to tell my part-boarder that as soon as she can find someone to pay her for riding their horse, I will be happy to let her out of our part-boarding arrangement. But then, I'm kind of snotty like that.

            But in public, I would just pretend that I never heard her say it. I would continue with the training rides, but schedule them for days when the part-boarder isn't riding and I would never mention them again to the part-boarder.
            "Facts are meaningless. You can use facts to prove anything
            that's even remotely true."

            Homer Simpson

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            • #7
              Originally posted by NoSuchPerson View Post
              I would continue with the training rides, but schedule them for days when the part-boarder isn't riding and I would never mention them again to the part-boarder.
              I would do the above. It is your horse and you can choose whomever you may to ride the horse. I have been a part-boarder several times over I would never have issues with the owner having training rides put on the horse.

              I would be upset if I had agreed to 3x/wk rides that suddenly went down to 2x/wk yet I was expected to pay the same $ per month. Also maybe your part-boarder is a bit nervous that she might loose the ride all together on your horse. One of the perks of part-boarding in my eyes is having access to much nicer horse flesh and like wise coaching/boarding facilities than I could ever afford on my own.

              Erika

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              • #8
                I think your part leaser is a little surprised you actually got the other gal to ride your horse, a little put off and a bit nervous.

                She did mention before that she'd like to see the horse ridden well by someone, then the reality hit that it means she can't ride at the time.

                It's your horse in the end. I would have the pro ride during the week and not worry about whether or not the part leaser knows. As long as she gets her agreed upon rides, it's not her problem.

                We have some similar ongoing baby level drama at my barn. The 14 yro owner/lesson rider thinks she's as good as the 17 yro who works there. They started riding around the same time. The 14 yro doesn't want to work at it; the 17 yro puts in about 40 hrs/wk (home schooled) and rides daily. There really is no comparison b/w the two. But periodically the kid gets her nose out of joint b/c the older girl can ride her new horse much better than she can. Simple jelousy. We basically ignore her.
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                • #9
                  That is an odd thing for your part boarder to say.

                  I half lease (same financial arrangement as your part boarder). Not only do I NOT expect to be paid to ride the horse because I am not a pro, but I help PAY for any training rides the horse receives. Geez.

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                  • #10
                    Part boarder doesn't know or understand the difference between riding a horse and just sitting there going through the motions. Sounds as though part boarder needs some lessons with someone who can make her really ride.

                    I'd check out the 20 yo some more on part boarders off days, and ignore the whiner who wanted to watch, but was too uneducated to see anything.
                    Some riders change their horse, they change their saddle, they change their teacher; they never change themselves.

                    Remember the horse does all the work, we just sit there and look pretty.

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                    • #11
                      Does your part boarder happen to be under 25?

                      I'm sure it happens at all ages, but particularly in this age range I've found a really surprising amount people who don't understand the difference between themselves and someone who is capable of improving the horse (i.e. someone you'd let ride for free or even pay to ride.)

                      It's a very teenage mentality but I see it all. the. time.
                      Originally posted by BAC
                      I don't think FF's post was rude (not this one at least).

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                      • #12
                        I hope your part boarder was just having a moment and has come to their senses by now.
                        Clearly there is a big difference between being a part boarder and a pro putting pro rides on.

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                        • #13
                          It would be one thing if this 20 yo was at the same level as the PB and you were letting her ride for free...but that is not the situation. I don't think what you're doing is at all unfair-in fact, I feel like you are actually paying to improve the horse solely for the PB since you are not riding at this time. Seems like a pretty sweet deal to me. PB would have more fun riding the horse to the fences, horse gets more experience from a knowledgeable rider. Maybe spin it that way to the PB? And if she gets insulted because you don't think she's a good enough rider well...might be time for her to move on.

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                          • #14
                            In rethinking this situation, since the daughter of the BO is over 18 and you (and presumably others) are paying her to ride she is showing as a pro, right?

                            It's as simple as, "I'm paying a professional to do jump schools on the horse." Problem solved.
                            Originally posted by BAC
                            I don't think FF's post was rude (not this one at least).

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by french fry View Post
                              In rethinking this situation, since the daughter of the BO is over 18 and you (and presumably others) are paying her to ride she is showing as a pro, right?

                              It's as simple as, "I'm paying a professional to do jump schools on the horse." Problem solved.
                              This ^^^

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