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  • Hunters and Western Pleasure.

    I've been riding hunters (USEF) for many years. I've dabbled in a bit of dressage but nothing major. For the majority of my time I had a decent, competitive at local shows warmblood that I competed training dressage and 2'3 hunters on. Recently I became horseless and started riding with a great local 'A' barn, taking lessons once a week. All was fine and dandy, content where I was.

    Then, two weeks ago I met a woman whom needs a horse/house sitter. But she wanted to be comfortable with me before she just leaves, she'd never met me before. So she asked me to come out and ride her retired impeccably trained western pleasure horse. I'd never ridden a trained western pleasure horse. Sure, I'd been on a few western horses, I know western tack and how to tack up a western horse. But I'd never been on a western horse this well trained. She said I was a natural and that I'd found my new calling. Hmm, maybe! No one has ever said that about me as a hunter! LOL She's pretty much opened the door for me to come out and ride whenever I can.

    Well here comes the tricky part. When I was first starting to ride a trainer put spurs on me too early. Horse spooked, I grabbed and the horse took off. I'd only worn spurs about a dozen times in the last 15 years. I don't like to wear them. My hunter trainer now assures me my leg is steady and I should be just fine, I'm sure I would be but I'm a worry wort! Plus, coming off a green horse that shook my confidence. We've been having this argument for a few weeks.

    Well, the western pleasure horse is spur stop trained. I pretty much have to ride him with spurs. Riding him with spurs is no problem! I enjoy my time with him and I just bought my own western spurs.

    I guess my question is, am I crazy? Are these disciplines too different? Is riding a spur stop trained western pleasure horse and then going to a hunter lesson going to mess with my mind? LOL I feel like one day I'm going to try and spur stop the lesson horse and all hell will break loose!

    Has anyone ridden two very different disciplines before and succeeded for an extended period of time? Tell me your stories!

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    Riding WP will likely get you more in tune with your seat and body mechanics when riding your hunters. I don't think you will get your aids confused as the two disciplines are so different I think your brain can keep them separate (different tack and different speeds).

    I like riding western for fun, and I don't find I get confused when I put on my English gear!
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    • #3
      I rode WP for a few years in between eventing and it was great. Helped me understand better (and feel more consistently) a lifted back, driving hind end etc.

      you will be fine. :-)


      i eventuakly ally actually taught my wp horse to jump.

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      • #4
        I think it's good to try out different disciplines! For the past year I've been riding my uncle's working cowpony in addition to my jumper TB, and I really feel like it's made me a stronger rider. The cowpony is crazy quick and really only responds to your seat--I've learned for the first few minutes of the ride leg needs to be OFF unless I want to be teleported to the next pasture, but his mouth is so good I ride him out to cows in a rubber loose ring snaffle. It helps keep me from picking with my hands too much, which both horses greatly appreciate.

        It's also good to do different disciplines with the horses.....cowpony (begrudgingly) does some baby dressage and (happily) pops over little x-rails and cavalletti, TB thinks chasing cows is the MOST FUN EVER.
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          #5
          Thanks guys. I really feel like it's going to help with my posture while riding hunters. I've been working on getting rid of a huge hunter perch and I definitely sit up taller while riding WP.

          It's good to know there are people crossing disciplines. It seems like here either you ride hunters, or you don't. As I mentioned in the OP I rode dressage and hunters for awhile and got a bit of flack for it.

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          • #6
            What RegentLion said. You really get an appreciation for a horse that is completely tuned into you and immediately responds to every cue. It's a different type of ride and has challenges of its own, but the horses are much better broke and you can really relax and concentrate on what you are doing.
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              Originally posted by Flash44 View Post
              What RegentLion said. You really get an appreciation for a horse that is completely tuned into you and immediately responds to every cue. It's a different type of ride and has challenges of its own, but the horses are much better broke and you can really relax and concentrate on what you are doing.
              It's very true, I was riding yesterday, my fourth ride on the WP horse. I was wearing different spurs than I had previously and after a great beginning of a ride he started giving me mixed results and flying changes and stuff I wasn't asking for. I stopped and looked down and my spurs had moved and were definitely not hitting where I was intending. I moved them back and voila! Perfect horse again.

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              • #8
                You will become a better rider! Having to think a bit more is good for your mind and relaxing into that jog and lope is good for you seat.

                I became a much better rider when DH bought a TWH which we showed in the flat shod classes. I had to really concentrate to learn to ride him and that helped with my other horses.

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                  #9
                  I had a big problem dropping my right shoulder over fences in my lesson last week. I doubt it's already from riding WP one handed. I guess we will see tonight if it persists.

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                  • #10
                    Nah, shouldn't be. I showed wp for years before I ever took up jumping and while there is much to fault in my jumping position no doubt, dropping a shoulder isn't one of them! In any event, your shoulders should be square even when riding one-handed.

                    One thing wp has added value for is learning to use your body, instead of the reins, to get a horse to relax and maintain the right pace.

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                    • #11
                      It sounds to me like you are a big over-thinker
                      Riding WP will teach you finesse- to be still and not fuss.

                      I used to teach the hunter and jumper lessons at a barn owned by a WP rider on the AQHA circuit. I used to love getting on the western horses. It really helps you to slow your brain down.

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                      • #12
                        Cross training in any way possible if you are working with good to excellent mentors s the very best thing ever!
                        Time management tough for you? 42 great tips and support through this course!

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                        • #13
                          I ride saddleseat, sidesaddle, hunter, western pleasure, and dressage. Starting to cross over at first really threw me, but now it doesn't phase me at all. Actually, the more I've added various disciplines, the better the others have gotten. Saddleseat has really helped my posture/shoulders, while hunt seat has helped the leg. Dressage has really taught me to think about the aids I'm using, and how my body is impacting the horse. Western has taught me how much I can accomplish without needing to touch the horse's face. The happy perk of doing so many things is that I have a much larger toolbox, and my body awareness is much improved. I've pulled from the saddleseat toolbox to fix things with my dressage horse, and from the dressage toolbox to work on stuff with my western horse. It's hard to add that new discipline in at first, but it's worth it. It really, really makes you a more well-rounded rider.
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