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"Return of the King" - From Auction Lot Back to Birthplace

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  • "Return of the King" - From Auction Lot Back to Birthplace

    An OTTB rescue linked to a high profile murder of a family.


    http://www.latimes.com/local/great-r...ry.html#page=1
    "No matter how well you perform there's always somebody of intelligent opinion who thinks it's lousy." - Laurence Olivier

  • #2
    Wow...that is quite a story!

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    • #3
      Wow is right. Such a crazy story. Glad he found a soft place to land.

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      • #4
        It just seems so wrong to me that the racing industry is allowed to let these animals fall through the cracks. They aren't cars, they should have to be provided for or guaranteed a good home at a retirement farm or something.
        My herd for life:
        King: 21 year old Foxtrotter gelding
        Ruais: 8 year old Friesian/Arabian mare
        http://imgur.com/a/LSPiJ#0

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        • #5
          Especially those who made their owners real $$$. No excuse for that, particularly.
          I tolerate all kinds of animal idiosyncrasies.
          I've found that I don't tolerate people idiosyncrasies as well. - Casey09

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          • #6
            Originally posted by AmarachAcres View Post
            It just seems so wrong to me that the racing industry is allowed to let these animals fall through the cracks. They aren't cars, they should have to be provided for or guaranteed a good home at a retirement farm or something.
            How is the racing industry different than a show horse or a backyard horse? I'm just truly curious? I do agree however.
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            • #7
              Originally posted by LauraKY View Post
              How is the racing industry different than a show horse or a backyard horse? I'm just truly curious? I do agree however.
              Personally I think all animals that we chose to bring into this world should have a safety net.

              When it comes to race horses however, these animals are raced for money in a way most showers aren't put through. Their riders are not attached (legally) to them in anyway and are changed out whenever the desire hits. They are tossed away if they don't make any money. Many ex-show horses are at least found homes with lower level riders or retired.

              Once a race-horse stops winning, a majority of them, especially geldings, aren't much more than cast offs.

              I really don't know how to word what I'm thinking because it upsets me so very much.
              My herd for life:
              King: 21 year old Foxtrotter gelding
              Ruais: 8 year old Friesian/Arabian mare
              http://imgur.com/a/LSPiJ#0

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              • #8
                IMO, racehorses aren't "cast off" as often as people seem to think. IME, owners/trainers/breeders truly care about their animals. Many ex-racehorses get new jobs or are simply retired, too.

                I have a gelding now that will probably end up being a pasture puff. His trainer on the track was devastated when he was injured, paid $600 for PRP, and then made sure he got a good home.

                The OTTB is a big deal right now, which is great. Lots of options - like, adoption agencies and retirement farms.

                It's sad that horses (of all breeds) slip through the cracks. Sadly the system ain't perfect, but I think things are heading in the right direction.
                Last edited by harvestmoon; Jul. 11, 2014, 01:25 AM.
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by AmarachAcres View Post
                  Personally I think all animals that we chose to bring into this world should have a safety net.

                  When it comes to race horses however, these animals are raced for money in a way most showers aren't put through. Their riders are not attached (legally) to them in anyway and are changed out whenever the desire hits. They are tossed away if they don't make any money. Many ex-show horses are at least found homes with lower level riders or retired.

                  Once a race-horse stops winning, a majority of them, especially geldings, aren't much more than cast offs.

                  I really don't know how to word what I'm thinking because it upsets me so very much.
                  Some pretty sweeping generalizations there. There are plenty of horses in a number of different show circuits that don't live "normal" horsey lives. They live on road, maybe get a few weeks off each year, some don't at all. Some racehorses live at proper farms with turnout and everything between races. This story is sad, and it's heartbreaking anytime a horse falls through the cracks, but saying that racing is the big culprit is unfair, because this happens in every discipline. Show horses find themselves in unfortunate situations too. We just don't have rescue/rehoming groups and websites dedicated to throwing their stories up on the internet like we see right now with the OTTBs.

                  I'd say that with the recent popularity of the OTTB and the awareness on the rise for the need to retire, rehabilitate, retrain, and rehome these horses, the situation is improving. It needs time, and continued interest and support.
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                  • #10
                    I thought it was admirable of the horse's breeder to volunteer to take him back to live out the rest if his life there. I can't condemn the family for selling him on. Sounds like he was still racing then, and probably sold to another racing owner...then who knows where all he went, finally ending up at the auction. If you want to blame anyone, they are somewhere in those years between racing and auction.

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                    • #11
                      http://offtrackthoroughbreds.com/201...cued-in-calif/

                      a previous article about him.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by GoneAway View Post
                        Some pretty sweeping generalizations there. There are plenty of horses in a number of different show circuits that don't live "normal" horsey lives. They live on road, maybe get a few weeks off each year, some don't at all. Some racehorses live at proper farms with turnout and everything between races. This story is sad, and it's heartbreaking anytime a horse falls through the cracks, but saying that racing is the big culprit is unfair, because this happens in every discipline. Show horses find themselves in unfortunate situations too. We just don't have rescue/rehoming groups and websites dedicated to throwing their stories up on the internet like we see right now with the OTTBs.

                        I'd say that with the recent popularity of the OTTB and the awareness on the rise for the need to retire, rehabilitate, retrain, and rehome these horses, the situation is improving. It needs time, and continued interest and support.
                        Yes, the recent popularity helps. But that isn't the industry taking care of them, that is other people who had nothing to do with racing who step in.

                        I've met great race horse owners, I'm sure there are plenty on this board.

                        However, I've met far more racing people who don't care one bit about what happens to their horses once the horse is done racing than I have met people who show and treat there horses that way. And I've met far more showers than I have racers.

                        I apologize for generalizations, I wrote quickly at work and even stated I was having trouble putting my thoughts into words.

                        The racing industry makes money off these horses to a degree that no other horse sport can compare to.
                        My herd for life:
                        King: 21 year old Foxtrotter gelding
                        Ruais: 8 year old Friesian/Arabian mare
                        http://imgur.com/a/LSPiJ#0

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by AmarachAcres View Post
                          However, I've met far more racing people who don't care one bit about what happens to their horses once the horse is done racing than I have met people who show and treat there horses that way. And I've met far more showers than I have racers.
                          And I've experienced the opposite.

                          As to this specific horse, this quote is telling:

                          "And I have no doubt that if the family hadn't been murdered, they would have kept King, and given him a good retirement."

                          As well as this one:

                          "James Keogh of Grovendale Sales, who is King's breeder, readily agreed to take back the horse and provide him with a lifetime retirement. "I'm just doing what's right," Keogh says, adding that he is optimistic that King's lameness can be helped, if not corrected, with good farrier care."

                          This horse last raced in 2009. Who had this horse the last 5 years? Was he sold, given away? Did the trainer try to do right by the horse and find a home for him? Did those people turn around and give the horse away? Who sent him to auction? Pardon me if this info is in the article, I must have missed it.

                          But, whatever. I've come to the realization that there is just no point in arguing. No minds are being changed.
                          "No, not anything goes, I said no rules!"

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                          • #14
                            I vividly remember that Christmas Eve massacre. It was so horrendous. Glad the horse has found a home and kind treatment after what he's been through.
                            In an age when scientists are creating artificial intelligence, too many of our educational institutions seem to be creating artificial stupidity.Thomas Sowell, Is Thinking Obsolete?

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by AmarachAcres View Post
                              Yes, the recent popularity helps. But that isn't the industry taking care of them, that is other people who had nothing to do with racing who step in.

                              It is the people who have nothing to do with racing who readily take credit and make a big deal for doing what trainers at the track have done for years. I don't know of anyone here (and I know nearly everyone in all 21 barns here) that doesn't have a plan or outlet for their horses when the time comes. Farms, rehoming groups, heck some of us have waiting lists of people looking for a decent horse cheap. We are lucky enough to have a local group that has helped pay for and rehab horses in need of surgery and rehoming. That group is made up of people from the track, and they have been around long before the OTTB = I'm a Hero fad.

                              Think about it, the write ups, the FB "LOOK LOOK I'M TOUCHING A RACEHORSE I AM AMAZING I'M A GREAT PERSON" brags, how much of that do you really believe is about the horses?


                              I've met great race horse owners, I'm sure there are plenty on this board.

                              However, I've met far more racing people who don't care one bit about what happens to their horses once the horse is done racing than I have met people who show and treat there horses that way. And I've met far more showers than I have racers.

                              Sounds like you need a visit to the backside.

                              I apologize for generalizations, I wrote quickly at work and even stated I was having trouble putting my thoughts into words.

                              The racing industry makes money off these horses to a degree that no other horse sport can compare to.
                              Some friends and I were sitting outside the barn laughing about this particular irony just a few days back. We race for money, not ribbons. We laughed that one of our horses can be 100% sound and competitive and have earned over $100k, yet it is essentially worthless next to a show horse that has never won a buck (ie equitation horses, children's hunters, AA mounts).

                              There are barns full of horses expected to help make their caregivers a living in every discipline. In my experience, those horses generally receive better care than those belonging to the "for fun" crowd. . Think about it, we didn't choose this life because we like to see horses suffer.

                              "Pat the horse; kick yourself" - Carl Hester

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                              • #16
                                This started on the Racing Forum. i would love to know the ultimate end of the one or two horses I've sold. Some I wonder what really happened, and others I fear what happened.

                                Can I do anything about it, No!

                                Can I buy carefully and breed cautiously, Yes!
                                Some riders change their horse, they change their saddle, they change their teacher; they never change themselves.

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                                • #17
                                  I posted at length on the thread over in the Racing forum (link here) about this. I live in the Ortega family's neighborhood, about 10 houses down or so from their street. My husband teaches at the school where many of the 13 orphaned children attended, and one of my friends was the teacher for several of the kids. We were new to the neighborhood at the time and did not know the Ortegas, but it still affected us (and our community) deeply. I described our experience as well as recognizing ROTK on AHR's rescue page in the link.

                                  I walked the dog by the property last night (it's part of our regular dog walking routes). The house was bulldozed long ago and now it's just a sad scar with a screened fence up along with several "No Trespassing" signs. Part of me hopes maybe a memorial park could be placed there in its place.
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                                  • #18
                                    Yay! Our local paper ran an article on ROTK the other day as well.

                                    http://www.sgvtribune.com/sports/201...stmas-massacre
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                                    • #19
                                      Originally posted by harvestmoon View Post
                                      And I've experienced the opposite.

                                      As to this specific horse, this quote is telling:

                                      "And I have no doubt that if the family hadn't been murdered, they would have kept King, and given him a good retirement."

                                      As well as this one:

                                      "James Keogh of Grovendale Sales, who is King's breeder, readily agreed to take back the horse and provide him with a lifetime retirement. "I'm just doing what's right," Keogh says, adding that he is optimistic that King's lameness can be helped, if not corrected, with good farrier care."

                                      This horse last raced in 2009. Who had this horse the last 5 years? Was he sold, given away? Did the trainer try to do right by the horse and find a home for him? Did those people turn around and give the horse away? Who sent him to auction? Pardon me if this info is in the article, I must have missed it.

                                      But, whatever. I've come to the realization that there is just no point in arguing. No minds are being changed.
                                      Most of the family was murdered and other members who were overwhelmed with the crisis rehomed the horse. This area has a lot of so called match race activity and probably that is where he ended up. I helped with this horse since I get updates from this group, he was abandoned at auction barely able to walk (actually left tied to a fence) and they (the rescue group) bought him before the auction.
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                                      • #20
                                        Originally posted by Calamber View Post
                                        Most of the family was murdered and other members who were overwhelmed with the crisis rehomed the horse. This area has a lot of so called match race activity and probably that is where he ended up. I helped with this horse since I get updates from this group, he was abandoned at auction barely able to walk (actually left tied to a fence) and they (the rescue group) bought him before the auction.
                                        Ah, what an awful situation.
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