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  • The working student thing.

    I would love to hear experiences of previous working students and how they enjoyed the good, the bad, and the ugly of it all. If a bad experience, what would you recommend in place of it that is still a financially lesser and riding productive option?
    I am taking a year off before college to play horse and I want to 100% make sure I am aware of what I am diving into. With consideration given to finding the correction position for yourself and your needs; what is advice you would give to someone seeking a working student position? (Besides the obvious, try not to find a slave worker position, make sure it is a correct fit, and get everything outlined in bold clear print). I have found a potentially cool one within my area and I am buzzing with question.

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    If you've already found a possible place, just be upfront with them about what you want to get out of it. Make sure you're clear about payment-whether its actual cash or work for lessons. If you have a horse, will you be getting board included or is it extra? Hours and duties need to be clarified. Will you be showing-if so, their horses or yours?
    You said the one you found is in your area, so this might not apply, but for me, housing is a major one. Make sure its actually habitable, and make sure its clear if you're paying rent or its included.
    If I had to go back to the working student gig again, I would probably ask more questions than I did back then. I was just so excited to work with horses that I really got taken advantage of. So, go chat with them, and be very clear what you're expecting. Since its just a year, not a huge deal if you have to make some compromises on some things, but just make sure you're getting what you want out of it-lots of lessons, showing, baby horse experience, whatever it may be.
    Good luck!

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    • #3
      OP: PM me. A good friend of ours just did 2 ws positions. 180 degrees from each other in goodness/badness. I can prob get the 2 of you linked up for her to share what she has learned the very hard way.

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      • #4
        And get it in writing... too many working students go in with expectations or assumptions of what they'll get in return for their work and when that doesn't happen, scream "usury!" or truly do get used and abused.

        Plus it takes all the possibility of misunderstanding and assumption out of the equation. You know what you get out of the deal, the trainer knows what he/she will get out of you and everyone's happy(ish).

        My motto: if it ain't in writing, it doesn't exist.
        <>< Sorrow Looks Back. Worry Looks Around. Faith Looks Up! -- Being negative only makes a difficult journey more difficult. You may be given a cactus, but you don't have to sit on it.

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        • #5
          ^^^^^^What ChocoMare said. Get it all in writing to protect you and the BO/BM. Expectations need to be spelled out. Otherwise it can turn a great situation into a bad one if one party feels they are not on the same page.

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          • #6
            To get the most out of your experience, find the most professional professional who will have you. I know Anne Kursinski regularly takes new working students (a friend hated her, but I'd say it was an invaluable experience), Denny Emerson has a working student application on his website, and so on and so forth. Go big, as big as you can. Andreas Helgstrand was hiring recently, as was Paul Schockenmohl, but be realistic about your current skill set with some of the big guys. You are young, use this time productively, and good luck!!
            Let me apologize in advance.

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            • #7
              Working student can mean someone living and working full-time with a trainer, or someone who does chores in exchange for lessons or training. I've done the latter, first at a riding school while I was in high school where my main duties were to get horses ready for lessons. Now I am a working student for a trainer where the duties are usually getting her horses tacked up and ready for her to ride, and putting that one away while she gets on the next one, or on days the trainer doesn't ride general barn chores (such as turning horses out, preparing feed buckets, show prep, and cleaning tack). I actually did not have a written agreement in either situation, just a verbal understanding and haven't had any problems.
              http://trainingcupid.blogspot.com/

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              • #8
                When I did it for a summer, I had to tack-up and untack horses for the trainer, ride my horse plus two or three others, and do general barn chores. Given that the horses were in stables 24/7, this involved mucking out twice per day. I got free accommodation, lessons, and free board for my horse. I was never so happy as when university started again in the fall.
                Help me keep my horse in peppermints and enjoy a great read! My New York City crime novel, available on Amazon.

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                • #9
                  never really got the working student thing as

                  "That on the first day of January, in the year of our Lord one thousand eight hundred and sixty-three, all persons held as slaves within any State or designated part of a State, the people whereof shall then be in rebellion against the United States, shall be then, thenceforward, and forever free;..."

                  I worked in the horse industry while in college and saw unlimited abuse of the "working students"

                  The one summer (three months) were I worked with saddlehorses was honestly the Longest five years of my life...and I was being paid well.

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                  • #10
                    For every positive working student situation of someone who "made it" going this route, there are about 10 people with negative experiences related to miscommunication, overwork, unfairness, lack of learning/saddle time, being taken advantage of, etc etc etc. Ask me how I know.

                    Maybe "working student" used to mean something specific, but these days too many positions are being advertised as such when they are nothing more than free labor with no benefit to the worker whatsoever. Expect to work very hard, yes, but it needs to be worth it to you.

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