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I got swindled with my Northampton cutie!!!

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  • <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by talloaks:
    so they must only be familiar with the(here we go again) the meat sales because the meat sales don't ask any questions and don't require any disclosures. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE> Well of course this is the only logical explanation. Because all race trainers are evil, you know.

    Nevermind that you've have lots of people here that have first hand track experience point out to you that cribbing is not considered an "issue" at the track.

    Why can't you accept that you made a mistake? I think if you admitted that maybe you screwed up - not the trainer, not CANTER, not the mare - then people would cut you some slack.

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    • Tall oaks..why didn't you have her vetted at the farm she was at???? or am I missing something. Personally I don't think you were swindled at all. You didn't ask if she cribbed and never had her vetted. Move on and sell the mare to someone that doesn't have a problem with cribbers. You make it sound like the sellers were out to get you...not

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      • I'm beginning to think the talloaks is just messing with us, trying to stir up trouble with her posts. Surely no one could be this dense...?
        "Whether you think you can or think you can't, you are right." -Henry Ford

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        • <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> Where's my drink? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>


          Make mine a Crown Royal and Pepsi please.....

          And quit hogging the chocolates!!!

          Jessi Pizzurro ~~ Pennyroyal Stables
          Racehorses, OTTBs ~~ 330 383 1281
          Courage is being scared to death and saddling up anyway. -- John Wayne

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          • Talloaks, you really should do yourself a favor and close this thread. It's not doing anything but making you look foolish. I am sure you are an otherwise good person, but I am getting the impression you are practically looking for ways to find fault with this mare. I can understand that you are upset (though I do not think you have been swindled), but you really need to give it some time, let her settle in and quit fretting that she isn't perfect.

            As you can tell from 21 pages of responses, you aren't going to get much sympathy from the vast majority of people who have followed this thread.

            You chose not to have a pre-purchase exam. That was your decision and one you ultimately need to live with. I don't see why it is so difficult for you to admit that you may have made a mistake.
            If I wanted to hear the pitter-patter of little feet, I'd put shoes on my cats.

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            • I'm not HOGGING THE CHOCs!

              It's VELVET. She's ALWAYS hogging EVERYTHING!

              WHERE's my MARTINI?
              "For God hates utterly
              The bray of bragging tongues."
              Sophocles, Antigone Spoken by the Leader of the Chorus of Theban Elders

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              • YIPEE!!! 411 doesn't think we look foolish!! Come join us for a drink and chocolates - I have the little seashell ones - while we wait for the PDs.

                oops - I'd better be off - I hear Saskatoon unking for me... or his dinner... or a carrot... or just for the fun of it.

                edited to add-

                ZUT ALORS Am I drinking with dressage people I'm scared of you...

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                  Guess what!! I'm not looking for anyone's sympathy---good grief!!! I don't need it!!! I think what I have experienced with this OTTB episode may give a heads up to those that may be thinking of purchasing one for the first time.

                  I have received numerous emails and PTs thanking me for starting this thread and saying how much they have learned. Most will beware of the OTTB canter experience. A great deal of the reason against being involved with purchasing a horse that way is the multitudes of negative comments from the sarcastic supporters.
                  http://www.talloaksfarm.net ---"Success is not final, failure is not fatal; it is the courage to continue that counts." --- Winston Churchill

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                    • talloaks, this is really starting to piss me off. i will trade you problems right now, you want to pay my 6,000.00 colic bill from my north hampton cutie and i will take your nun to not perfect cribbing unsound mare. GET OVER IT AND SELL HER TO SOMEONE WHO WANTS HER, and by the way if your trainer can tell that she is not race fit with out getting on her and galloping her, maybe she needs to come to my farm and teach me something that i guess i do not know. i have been galloping tb's for a long time. has she? also what other problems are you finding now? did it ever wonder in to your little brain that she is body sore, the track she raced at north hampton is very deep footing and the track is shaped like an egg. very tight turns&deep footing = BODY SORE. you try running in that with 110 pounds on your back and see how you feel! i am so tried of you whinning about how you got taken, when you are out 6,000.00 or out the surgery like abe's momm fessy is then talk to me about whinning.
                      www.camaloufarms.com

                      ride it like you stole it! "ralph hill"

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                      • <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Saskatoonian:
                        ZUT ALORS I'm scared of you... <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

                        Well, I get nervous around the DRIVING folks, as they never share their chocolates, and they always race by with their huge mugs o' martinis.

                        What a bunch o meenies.
                        "For God hates utterly
                        The bray of bragging tongues."
                        Sophocles, Antigone Spoken by the Leader of the Chorus of Theban Elders

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                        • <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by talloaks:
                          Guess what!! I'm not looking for anyone's sympathy---good grief!!! I don't need it!!! I think what I have experienced with this OTTB episode may give a heads up to those that may be thinking of purchasing one for the first time.
                          <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

                          And what is the lesson learned? If you are anti-cribbing, ASK IF THE HORSE CRIBS. If you are concerned about possible lameness, GET A PRE-PURCHASE EXAM! Two things you did not do, yet are seemingly incapable of admitting you should have.

                          <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by talloaks:
                          A great deal of the reason against being involved with purchasing a horse that way is the multitudes of negative comments from the sarcastic supporters. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

                          I don't even know what you are trying to say here...
                          If I wanted to hear the pitter-patter of little feet, I'd put shoes on my cats.

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                          • I can't help it...I just have to jump in here. As someone pointed out, no one made you go through with the purchase w/o vetting.

                            I'll share a story. I was looking at a mare in Canada (waaaaay far away from TN) and even though she was listed cheap (less than $2000), I wanted a vetting. I wasn't able to act quickly enough to get vetting scheduled before she was sold. Call me crazy if you want, but I heard on this board that the mare died shortly (within days) after arrival to her new home (not mine) due to injuries sustained in a prior accident.

                            I count my lucky stars that my gut instinct told me if I couldn't arrange the vetting, don't buy.

                            You made the choice to buy sight unseen. And not to sound too harsh here, with your 27 years of experience...relying on "e-mails and suggestions"...well no need to say more.

                            It also clearly states on the Canter site that the trainers are very busy and moving around a-lot, so I would think that you would have planned for that.

                            That being said, if this was a last minute/impulse purchase...good for you! You probably saved her from a terrible fate.

                            Just my humble 2 cents. Zipping the flame suit!
                            Proud member of the Clean Horse, Dirty House Clique! Founder of the Goodbye Fat, Hello Muscle Clique!

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                            • <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by talloaks:
                              I have received numerous emails and PTs thanking me for starting this thread and saying how much they have learned. Most will beware of the OTTB canter experience. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>


                              That is so sad that you are enjoying that.
                              Nina's Story
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                              • Talloaks, this has N-O-T-H-I-N-G to do with CANTER. Zero, Zilch, Nada. You didn't ask if she cribbed, you chose not to vet her. The way you're blaming everyone else is shameful .
                                Still Crazy After All These Years

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                                • talloaks, you said on an earlier post that you had never said that canter was to blame, well in the post i just saw it sure does look to me like you are getting great pleasure out of warning people to be leary of canter,is that what you are saying? you are a dumbass, (sorry everybody) but i am so angry. this is your fault for not asking the right questions, if you needed help all you had to do was ask someone what questions to ask, i would have been more than happy to help you, i did with a great number of others on here. helped with shipping and also what horses i liked, trainers i had talked to and questions to ask a trainer when you talk to them. because you were dumb does not mean you were swindled!
                                  www.camaloufarms.com

                                  ride it like you stole it! "ralph hill"

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                                  • Of course I agree with all the true statements already pointed out:

                                    <UL TYPE=SQUARE><LI>Always vet a horse before buying
                                    <LI>Ask about the issues that are dealbreakers for you
                                    <LI>CANTER/equine.com/The New York Times are NOT responsible for verifying ad content (duh people!)
                                    <LI>3500 isn't really a rescue horse
                                    <LI>Rescue horses (in general) are such because they are not always 100% perfect[/list]

                                    But I think that a lot of what has gotten us riled up and snarking at each other (myself included!) is the overall tone.

                                    References to the "very expensive warmbloods," our "grubby hands" the "lower end race trainers" the "vultures" and the "meat sales" just reek of the class snobbery which is one of the worst parts of the horse business. Just because you have more money doesn't make you any better or more ethical than anyone else--there are good and bad in all walks of life.

                                    One thing I love about horses--the fancy show horses and the old nags--all run around and play together and get so dirty you can hardly tell them apart. Makes us look bad.

                                    I agree with everyone who says this is poor PR for your farm. That attitude is unplesant to many people--rich and poor alike.

                                    Best of luck with the horse.

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                                    • <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Astraled:
                                      Talloaks, this has _N-O-T-H-I-N-G_ to do with CANTER. Zero, Zilch, Nada. You didn't ask if she cribbed, you chose not to vet her. The way you're blaming everyone else is shameful . <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

                                      Worth repeating.
                                      where are we going, and why am I in this hand basket?

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                                      • Original Poster

                                        Astraled posted:
                                        <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>this has N-O-T-H-I-N-G to do with CANTER. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

                                        She was ADVERTISED on the CANTER SITE!! There is a connection.
                                        http://www.talloaksfarm.net ---"Success is not final, failure is not fatal; it is the courage to continue that counts." --- Winston Churchill

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                                        • When is our next CANTER fund raiser? Is it the Halloween Costume Contest?
                                          Jessi Pizzurro ~~ Pennyroyal Stables
                                          Racehorses, OTTBs ~~ 330 383 1281
                                          Courage is being scared to death and saddling up anyway. -- John Wayne

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