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My parents are trying to kick me out and sell the horses, small update pg 15

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  • #41
    I'm going to write from direct experience of my own unloving/unaccepting and abusive mother, plus my own early ventures into making a living with horses.

    First, your parents are adults and as such are responsible for their own happiness and health. Your mother's behavior is manipulative and narcissistic. Sorry. I know how tough that is...it's a major hurdle to overcome in life.

    Second, decades ago when I was a working student for a BNT, the biggest lesson I learned was that, forget making it big, nobody, but nobody made it at all as a pro without financial support for a long time from family. The BNT I worked for was bankrolled by her father well into her 30s. One of her top students had all his board and training bills paid by his parents, until he married a very wealthy and well-known dressage rider. The little name trainers I've known over the years were either multi-generational family businesses (and tough as nails and very, very slick) or, in one case, got a farm mortgage from her parents because no bank would have touched her with a 20 foot pole.

    You need to get out of your toxic home environment one way or another. If you can find a place to lease until you are able to sell your horses, do so. Keep 1 only and get part-time work as a teacher in exchange for board. And find a decent job.

    YOu mention a degree in biology. If you by any chance have or can get a teaching certificate, you'll be free to teach riding in the summer and practically guaranteed a job in a lot of areas of the country.

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    • #42
      No offense but I also feel if your 23 why are you still there? Long past time to be responsable for yourself.
      Quality doesn\'t cost it pays.

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        #43
        County, the only reason I am home is to take care of the horses. They are my resonsibility.

        Also, in a perfect world, my parents just assumed i would live here, do my business here, and find a nice man, and bulild our own house somewhere on our 40 acres.

        Only, I killed their plan by coming out, and this is the way they are acting. It dosent help that my sister, who is 20, finds nothing wrong with marrying a guy and living on the property.

        Also, I have tried to move out, before they even knew I was gay, and told me if i did they would sell the horses, because if I wanted to move out, clearly that meant I didnt want to ride anymore...so yeah, kinda messed up...

        oh and one more thing, I already have a girl scout camp signed up and ready to come in July for a few days (I am insured to teach lessons, and i pay that on my own too) So i really dont want to let the kids down who already signed up for the program.

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        • #44
          I am so sorry to hear your parents are being so unsupportive and manipulative--if--before they knew you were gay--they threatened to sell the horses if you moved out, well that just goes to show that being gay and coming out isn't the real problem.

          It's not fun to have the rug pulled out from under you, so to speak, with little or no warning, but it appears that is what has happened. You simply need to sell the horses asap, move out and find a job that will support you.

          Then you can work on trying to mend the mess that is your family. I would recommend counseling with the entire family: mom, dad, sister and grandma as it appears you have bigger family problems than simply being gay. Your family is much too dominating and controlling for your sanity, and I speak from the experience of living with a similarly dysfunctional background.

          Good luck and remember that you have lots of support from many members of this board and elsewehere. Believe it or not, your situation is pretty common.

          How sad is that?

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          • #45
            Your right if you own the horses there your responsability. But if you expect your parents to provide them and or you a place to live your asking them to take over your responsabilities in which case you go by their rules. Paint the picture what ever color you want your 23 and asking them to help run your life being gay or not has nothing to do with it.
            Quality doesn\'t cost it pays.

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              #46
              Paint the picture what ever color you want your 23 and asking them to help run your life being gay or not has nothing to do with it.
              County, Im not trying to start a fight, and maybe now im too upset to see this from another point of view, but I never asked them to help run my life. I know by now not to expect anything from them. Believe me, ever since I came out, its been hell here. I didnt recieve christmas presents, I get treated differently, my sister got stuff for Valentines day, i didnt. Im not saying im upset or jealous that Im not getting gifts, im just saying, i dont expect anything from then. I tried to move out on my own, and i told them i would take care of all the aspects of the horses, I would just wouldnt be living home, and they wouldnt go for it.

              but who knows, maybe im just not getting what you are saying.

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              • #47
                Clearly, please ignore county's posts. Just don't give them another thought.

                Look, the sad fact is just that- a sad fact. Your mother decided at some point that you and your sister were property to be managed at her discretion. Newsflash: you aren't. That's the good news You can leave and if you have to, never look back.

                Sellout, sell down, slow down. You sound like an intelligent young woman who's going to have to find another road to Rome, the one you were on has played out.

                I'm very sorry that you find yourself in this position; I can't imagine how hard this is on you. BUTT- chin up, you are young, you will thrive and survive if you decide to. Get thee an apartment, get your life in order, and you can always come back to the horses; train out of someone else barn, teach at camps, whatever. Do NOT stick around to teach some camp kids this summer- that's crazy. Cancelling now is the mature thing to do.

                Onward and upward. Good luck, sister.

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                • #48
                  I am so sorry that you are going through this. As a Mom, I can't imagine turning my back on one of my children just because he or she is gay. I'm sure your parents will rue the day they hurt you like that if they throw you out, destroy your business and sell off all your horses.
                  I don't know where you are, but we are looking for a good safe lease horse for my daughter and we offer a wonderful home. PT me if you're interested, as this might buy you some time to hang onto at least one of your horses and make a little money on it.
                  I hope, though, that you can restart your business and succeed on your own. Best of luck to you.

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                  • #49
                    I second the suggestion for you the get the blankedy-blank out of there, NOW!

                    You will not be happy, ever, having them look over your shoulders and budding into your personal business.

                    You may have to call the girlscouts, but do it NOW while there is still time for them to re-arange their scedule, it blows but what can you do.

                    Try to find a cheap solution for your horsekeeping dilemma, a pasture with run ins or so, or face the music, that it may be time to downsize and reorganize...

                    And since it is *all your fault* anyway, forget them comming to counseling, but take care of yourself! (My friend would suggest Martial Arts since she had been beat down for nearly 60 years and is now finding her own...she is one hardhitting Grandma! )but all kidding aside, seek counceling for yourself! Don't be a doormat!

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                    • #50
                      Ok, here goes. Leave the "gay" issue aside for a moment. You are a 23 year old woman with a college education. You cannot support your horse business with what you make either in lessons, or at Target. The only reason you have as many horses as you do is because your parents have allowed you to keep them at home and have subsidized whatever you cannot pay for. Don't tell me that you cover all of the cost, because unless you pay the property tax, homeowners insurance, maintenance on the farm and equipment, you don't. If you were capable of paying all that, you could easily find a small farm in the area, set up shop with whatever partner you pleased and go on. One should always have a plan B. You don't. Lest you think I am harsh, my 26 yr old son, who lives with his girlfriend at her parents just called me yesterday to inform me that his car had just blown the engine and could I help him. Did I mention that he and his girlfriend are full time students and that over the course of the last several years we have provided him with around 30K for living expenses and at least 3 cars all of which he has managed to blow up? Oh, and did I mention that my husband and I have our own business and both work 6 days a week? And did I mention that my son called me on his way back from a gambling boat? If you want a job with horses, find somewhere that will let you take A horse with you and does not care whom or what you sleep with as long as it is someone of legal age. You cannot expect to be able to keep horses at your parents indefinately because you are attached to them, it would be no different if you had married someone that lived across country and chose to move. You are lumping the two things together. You did not chose to be attracted to someone that your mother does not like, and you wish to, in spite of your mothers chagrin, to be with that person. that is situation one, your mom either comes around or she doesn't, that is her choice, the results of which will be consequences for her to bear. If the individual you are with is a good person, treats you well and makes you happy, then at the tender age of 23, you have a lot of years to help her through this. Situation two.. You cannot afford to keep all (or possibly any) of your horses if you move out, regardless of the reason you have for moving. That my dear, has nothing to do with your choice of partner, rather it has to do only with your financial ability to support your "hobby"(and until you do it all yourself, that is all it is). Well welcome to the world of the average 23 year old, unless you land a really good job, or marry well, you are in the same boat as many 23 year olds who mom and dad paid all the horsey stuff through school, took horsey to college, but now that they are out in the real world, they probably have to sell their horse, because they don't have time or money to ride and mom and dad said enough is enough. Read all the big$$ ads just in coth, daughter going to college $$$eq horse must be sold(and these are folks who could probably afford board). Stop whining, that's reality. Do I have 4 horses because my husband can afford the mortgage, yes. Did I have a horse before, no, not after I quit training and teaching, lost my free stall, and just couldn't do it all. Get over it, separate the horses from the fact that they don't like your partner. find the cheapest boarding place you can, take one or two, if you can afford it and tell mom and dad what you are doing. Just cause they're pissed doesn't meant they are going to sell your horses for dogfood, I'm sure they will find good homes for them. Even a private trainer in a stable owned by someone else, has to play by the BO's rules, it's no different just because they are your parents. So they aren't trying to kick you out, they just said if you live here, these are the people that we are comfortable with IN THE HOUSE THAT WE LIVE IN AND WORKED AND PAID FOR, and whether we think it is right or wrong, they have the right to say that. Apparently little sis plays by their rules, which are marry someone that we are comfortable with, remember it was not that long ago that bi racial marriages were the worst thing a girl could do, it is much more acceptable now, some of it has to do with how folks were raised, what age they are, where they grew up. It might seem archaic and backwards to younger people, but most of our parents grew up without television, computers, cell phones, cable, etc. It's different, and as hard as it is for you to accept, you KNOW it is different, whether it should be is another argument. There will be other horses, in fact at 23, there may be other people, or even people of other sexes, youth is a wonderful thing. You must respect your mother's wishes even if you feel they are wrong. Perhaps when she sees just what you are willing to sacrifice to be with someone you love, when she sees that you are willing to walk away from everything that is important to you, she may start to understand that perhaps you are not just being rebelious just to hurt her and trying to ram the relationship down her throat by making her have contact with someone that makes her uncomfortable in her own house. You my dear, are wrong. Once you came out, got past the initial shock, and realized that she is not going to just "come around" and let you and your partner play house and horses on her land and her dime, then you shoudl respect your mother and have enough pride to go quietly, pack what you can, sell what you can't, fill up your gas tank and live as you can afford to. It does not matter whether they dislike your partner because of sexual orientation or because he has tatoos and rides a harley. It matter that once you are old enough to have a sexual relationship, you better be paying for the roof it happens under. That's life, you get up, you go to a job that hopefully doesn't suck too bad, go home to a house that hopefully doesn't suck too bad, pay your bills, have $1 left over, rinse, repeat. Hopefully your car is ok, your health is ok, and the person you chose to be with laughs while you eat mac and cheese for the 3rd time this week. That's the horse business too. you gotta pay to play one way or another. If you are happy, it doesn't matter if you have lace curtains or a couch you found at goodwill. If you aren't happy, it doesn't matter either. Do or do not, but if I were your partner, and you were hanging about your parents because of the horses and the financial support, I'd wonder where your loyalty really is. (From someone who until the age of 35, never owned a piece of furniture she couldn't pick up and move herself and who continually listened to her mother bemoan the horse jobs, wondering when I'd "get a real job). Get tough and good luck.

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                      • #51
                        I'm not trying to start a fight or anything like that. Go back and read what you wrote in your original post, if you actually meant what you said and asked then I don't see a problem. If you wanted to only hear certain things then you worded it totally wrong.

                        And I really don't see the problem except your 23 and want to call the shots in someone elses home. Where I grew up thats not reality.
                        Quality doesn\'t cost it pays.

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                        • #52
                          BTW if there your horses its against the law for them to sell them. If they do call the law and press theif charges.
                          Quality doesn\'t cost it pays.

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                          • #53
                            You're only 23 years old, and be it known to you or not, your feelings are typical for a person of your age. Early 20's are a time when young adults test their boundaries and assert their "independence" upon parents and the world in general. It's perfectly normal to leave home at this age, in fact it's the healthy thing to do. I recommend that you look inside yourself and find your inner voice of the "mature you", and listen to what it has to say. All this "conflict" stuff between you and your Mom undoubtedly goes "way back", and your "crisis" of "this moment" is really just all that past stuff between you and her coming to a head now. The mature you needs to move forward and become the adult that you are. As long as you live at home with your Mom, you will continue to act as a child. You and your Mom have had 22 years to practice at this mother child relationship, and it's not going to go way overnight. Be the adult that you are, you can't change your mother, but you can change yourself.

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                              #54
                              sorry 2ndyrgal, didnt realize I was whining. Ok, so I dont pay for the electric to light the barn/indoor and the property tax, but my parents have their own horses. They didnt just do it for me. I never asked for an indoor, I came home from college and it was there.

                              This isnt something I just realized today. I have been thinking about a "plan B" for months now, and just came to the BB to ask for some advice. And yes, i know that coming to a public BB im going to get advice from all sides, which is what I want to hear. But i dont want people to think im just free loading here, or "playing house" as you say.

                              My partner and I never once thought we would move in here and all would be well, hence why Ive been trying to move out for a while now...and please dont ever question my loyality to my partner. We have been together for almost 2 years now and she knows that I love her very much. I have awlays been close to my family, and she understands that the thought of losing them is very hard for me.

                              One more time, I am NOT hanging around here for their money, believe me, Im not getting anything from them, im here for the horses, and if they do go and sell the ones that they have the bill of sale for, i want to make sure they at least go to good homes.

                              oh and 2ndyrgal, my mom did want me out of the house already, but my dad talked her into letting me stay. So yes, she is trying to kick me out. She also told me, at my college graduation no less, that my dad wants a divorce and it's all my fault...but they've had problems forever, but my mom is catholic and will never get a divorce...

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                              • #55
                                2ndyrgal- Great post!

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                                • #56
                                  Your not getting anything from them? If you actually beleive that I can see why theres problems. Truth is your getting a great deal of very good things from them and it isn't costing you a dime. Maybe mentally but thats your choice to be there and live with it.
                                  Quality doesn\'t cost it pays.

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                                  • #57
                                    Clearlyanalter, first I would call Legal Aid and see if they will give you an appointment--find out exactly what your legal rights are. If the horses are actually your property then you should be the one to decide what happens to them, not your parents. Once you know what is actually your responsibility you can figure out what to do with them. It may entail selling, or leasing, some or all of them.

                                    Secondly, I would find a therapist to help me sort this mess out. A lot of times if you can just talk to someone who has no vested interest you can actually work it out for yourself. Most of the time all you need is a good "sounding board". I'm glad I'm an adult and not a young person nowadays--there are more things today for young people to deal with. When I was your age I didn't even know what "gay" meant--I thought it meant "happy"! That's how old I am!!!

                                    I say, move out. Find yourself a good job and try to rebuild your horse business.... Sometimes horses just have to go on the back burner for a while... The good news is, "all things must pass".

                                    Try and keep the lines of communication open with your father as he seems to understand.

                                    Good luck--I know it seems like it's the end of the world but it could be a new, better beginning....
                                    "Don't blame Hogg or the other teens. The adults are supposed to know better. If only we could find any." ~Tom Nichols, professor of national security affairs at the Naval War College~

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                                    • #58
                                      You're not going to like what I have to say either. Putting the gay issue totally aside, you need to get your head clear and make some cold, hard decisions. You need to realize that you can't always have things the way you want, and right now you can't afford eight horses.

                                      You need to get out, and you need to place at least some, and maybe all of the horses in new homes. That is fact and all your wanting it to be different doesn't make it different. You cannot, right now, support them. Instead of crying about how you want to keep them all, get busy and find them good homes, so that you can quit worrying abot them, and start concentrating on you.

                                      As hard as it may seem, this is a time in your life when you have to put emotions to one side. You have to think ahead, and you have to plan. You are luckier than a lot of people. You have a good education and a loving partner. Do what needs to be done now, so that in the future you can have the life that you have always dreamed about. It may not come for a while, but, at 23, you have time.

                                      The 20's are not an easy time in life. They are a time of change, and upset. These years will also provide the base on which you will build the rest of your life. Make sure that base is strong and solid, and then look to the future, never look back.
                                      If you are neutral in situations of injustice, you have chosen the side of the oppressor.
                                      Desmond Tutu

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                                      • #59
                                        Clearlyanalter, first off, huge hugs to you. You need them! I've recently gone through the same thing with my family, over different reasons, about them wanting me to marry a certain man and me desperately not wanting to (heck im 20! I don't need to be married!), they sold our farm, several of my horses (which were co-owned), and tried to sell my 2 that I fully owned, paid board on at a seperate facility etc. I have friends who are lawyers, brought them into it, and I still have my "kid" (sold one of them because I needed the money, can really only support the one). That said, I do work full time in the horse business, and I can make ends meet and put some away, but its never as nice as a solid dependable paycheck that you darn well know is coming.
                                        Find a desk job or the equivalent. who ever said to get your teaching cert, go for it. Most of the time you need a masters, but they'll subsidize that usually, at least according to my teaching friends. Sure horses probably are going to have to go back a bit, but as long as they're in your life, it will help. And then once you are more comfortable financially, start edging back into pro horse world. I can't wait until I have enough to get another horse to teach from so I can free lance a bit more (sick of barn politics), and I also am still in school so i use part of my school loans to pay for rent, so it helps a bit (yeah i'll be paying for it later, i know). After I moved out, it became much easier to deal with the parents, i mean its not easy by any means but they don't have quite as much "leverage" either real or mental. You have a safe place to retreat to. And its great that you have your dad. Mine is much the same, not against me, but damn well not going up against the mum. Family therapy is also really helpful, if even just for a mediator and someone to tell you that you DONT suck and they (parents) have issues too.

                                        Clearlyanalter, I feel your pain, at least partially. Just find daily goals with the parents, even if its just not thinking too many nasty things about them, and work on straightening YOU up before worrying about them. And get out of that house, its only going to make you feel worse about yourself and everything. You'll feel much much better. (((((((((hugs))))))))))

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                                        • #60
                                          Sorry to hear about this situation.
                                          I am sure that you didn't jump into the fact that you were gay in a wink (even more so comming from a catholic family). You must have taken your time to consider if that was your choice. If it took time for you, why wouldn't it take time for them? Why think they have to accept it immediately if you must have thought it over for a while? Let them chew through this. Everyone has different ways of dealing with changes, and believe me, the older you get, the longer it takes... It might take a while. Have patience. But if they don't accept it, well be with it. It's your race and your time. If you think this is your best choice and are happy and proud of who you're with, then congrats and go on.

                                          Now, if you think you have waited enough and it's taking it's toll on your life and loved ones, leave. Time is too precious to waste on people that don't make you happy. It is none of your family's business who you sleep with, it is your partner's business. It is their business if you are not happy or healthy. I think your sexual choices only involves those who have a chance to be or are sexual with you...so that would leave relatives out of the equation (well, maybe not a second cousin... ). If you were doing something unhealthy, painful or dangerous, I would understand your family's concern. They should think you could sleep with a rottweiler if you want, as long as it doesn't bite you. Your bed has nothing to do with your parents or their opinions, since they will never be a part of that aspect of your life, as long as, I repeat, it is not dangerous, painful or unhealthy.

                                          But,I also think that if you live under someone's roof, you must abid by their rules, even if they are wrong. You would not like someone living in your place and doing things you thought wrong, even if it didn't seem that bad for your guest or roommate.
                                          So now for the prctical advice: you seem to pay for most of the horses' bills and insurance, so maybe you can post an add looking for a BO that doesn't have the time or energy to run a lesson business and offer to team up on profits. You put in the lesson horses, their expenses and the work, the BO will add in the use of property and it's expenses, and that way you still pay for the same amount for horse fees, but you have a chance of starting lesson business. The BO might have a chance of some profit in the future doing nothing and still paying for the same expenses he/she is doing now. I don't see anything wrong with that if they have some free stalls. Try checking out barns in your area, maybe offering to build some extra stalls in an unused shed, and start from there.
                                          I don't know where you are, but I can practically bet you aren't close to Argentina.. . I wish I were closer to help you out. I'm a barn owner and it wouldn't bother me a bit to earn some extra cash on someone else's work..hehehe!
                                          Good luck and stick to your guns, but remember to look at things from the other person's perspective before you shoot. It helps understand them and it's easier toconvince them of the happiness of your ways.
                                          Over what hill? Where? When? I don\'t remember any hill....

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