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It's a MIRACLE! The last hearing was today 11/10, update on p. 13

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  • #161
    I just saw this one -- Jingling for you, too, Applesauce. What an adorable little girl.

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    • #162
      Applesauce...I've been "lurking" and reading this for some time...keeping my fingers crossed for you.

      The one thing I can offer is in regards to documentation...which has been mentioned already. In my day to day job as a Probation Officer I am well-schooled in documenting daily interaction for presentation in Court.

      I will pm you with some suggestions.....

      Good luck!

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      • #163
        <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Applesauce:

        I wish I could have been there! Hopefully we BOTH can make the get together next Spring! How was it? Who all showed?

        <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

        It was great fun, as always. Let me see....

        Tara was there with Timber, Inverness with Billy, Elghund2 with his horse (whose name I don't know), CactusLil was horseless, Everythingbutwings, Janet w/ Music and her young horse, I took Sparkle & Romeo, Synrgystk with her pretty paint, whose name I know, but can't remember. Showjumps was there too. And, I know there were others, OH...Fairweather, of course, and more too, we'll have to get ETBW to post pictures.

        Mel

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        • #164
          Applesauce, I just wanted to tell you good luck with all of this! I'm actually pretty used to situations like these b/c my mom is a CASA Volunteer (Court Appointed Special Advocate) and deals with cases like these all the time. Some of the stories are just heart-wrenching, but they all work out in the end. Trust me, the mother will not be able to clean herself up or meet the court requirements. They rarely do. Old habits die hard, and if she hasn't cleaned up her act for her first 2 kids, chances are she won't do it now. It's just a long, slow process getting to the end of it all.

          Case in point, one case that my mom is working on now is about a woman who has been addicted to crack for 16 years has had 9 kids during that time. The first 5 have all been permanently placed/adopted with memebers of her family or adoptive parents, and the next 2 are pretty much adopted too. My mom is dealing with the youngest 2 girls and is trying to get them adopted by a wonderful family who has had custody of them for several months. The mom was in jail for awhile, and her parole was centered around her cleaning up her act, going to rebab, etc.. In court, she said she wanted the kids and wanted to do it, but she hasn't done anything. It's sad to be excited that someone will lose their children, but it's for the best.

          Best of luck and definitely talk to an adoption lawyer. Fight for Reese! She's worth it! Make it as hard as possible for this woman to get her back, and she'll probably fall through.

          ~Sarah~

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          • #165
            <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Applesauce:
            (Monday) the birth mother is leaving to go to jail for a month or more on drug charges. I had no idea!

            So, again we wait for the second hearing in about another 25 days.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

            Soooo, will the fact that she will be in jail for the time of the second hearing play a part in the judge's decision? Hmmmm. If the birth mother shows up in an orange jumpsuit, it may work for you.

            Hope all goes well and you get to keep your darling Reese.

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            • #166
              Applesauce…

              I’ve followed this thread … my heart goes out to you, to your family and to Reese. I wish there was some perfect solution or advice for people in your situation, but there is not.

              AS you well know, you are in for a bit of a bumpy road ahead. I been involved in litigation over custody; I have watched the courts tear families to shreds. And, I’ve watched again and again that the courts in this country favor the birth mother. Were I you, I would gather your family, friends , clergy (whatever support system you have) very close. You will need their strength and counsel in the weeks/ months/ years ahead. And, I strongly urge you to seek experienced legal counsel.

              But, about legal counsel, be very careful. Most attorneys want to litigate... that’s how they earn a living. They can inflame a situation and make it much worse, which, when children are involved, can be a disaster. Think about it… when you push someone they will usually respond by pushing back a little harder. If you escalate things and hit them really hard, they are likely to dig in and fight forever. It's human nature.

              I’ll bet that Reese’s mother hasn’t a clue how to be a good mother, but she can probably fight like an alley cat... it’s the one skill she’s mastered in life... she's probably had to fight simply to stay alive. Any mother (even the worst mother on the planet Earth) will typically fight ferociously for her child. If you come at Reese’s mom with a strong offensive hand (through the legal system) she may become very defensive and hang on to Reese even tighter... which will make your custody situation a living hell.

              SO, here’s a thought… there is some part of Reese’s mother that recognized she could not provide for Reese. Early on she gave Reese up because she wanted Reese to have a chance at a better life. It is natural that she now has some regrets about that. Help her to feel that she made the right choice in giving Reese up. If possible get a letter or some communication to Reese’s mom telling her how happy Reese is and what a good home you and your husband are able to provide. Stress that Reese will be in a stable loving environment and that she will all the advantages life has to offer (warm loving home, parents with a stable marriage, physical security, education, social opportunities). You will be so far ahead in all of this if Reese’s mom lets go on her own… that may even be a reason she did not show up… a part of her wants to do the right thing for Reese… help her to feel that you are the right choice.

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              • #167
                bump!
                Any news Applesauce?

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                • #168
                  Just saw this thread...
                  My heart and jingles go out to you and your family Applesauce!! It sounds to me that the best possible place for that little baby is with you and your family! Keep your chin up, we're all jingling for you!!

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                  • #169
                    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by fullmoon fever:
                    If the birth mother shows up in an orange jumpsuit, it may work for you.
                    <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

                    took the words right out of my mouth

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                    • #170
                      just catching back up on this one; spent last night upgrading my puter at home and, for some reason, I can't get directly into this site here at work. pshaw. still jingling for you and Reese; hopefully this woman will be able to at some point get her life back on track. also hope that perhaps she will see fit to give up her other two children and they can have a happy life too. do you perchance know how old they are?

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                      • #171
                        Continuing jingles and hoping for good news!

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                        • #172
                          Good God!

                          Sixteen years and nine children?

                          Where is involuntary sterilization when you need it?

                          It's always been my theory that you shove women like that through something that looks like a metal detector and - POOF- sterilized!

                          No muss, no fuss.
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                          • #173
                            And good luck to you, Applesauce family!
                            [i]\"He is your friend, your partner, your defender, your dog. You are his life, his love, his leader. He will be yours, faithful and true, to the last beat of his heart. You owe it to him to be wo

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                              #174
                              Thanks again and again and AGAIN to all of you wonderful people for your continuing well wishes.

                              No news! At this point I guess no news is good news. I honestly don't expect to hear anything else until the hearing, however. We are due for some more home visits from DSS so I'm thinking I may learn more then.

                              Keep those prayers and jingles coming!

                              Reese is doing wonderful! She's getting bigger and more beautiful every day. We just adore her. I need to post more pics too.

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                              • #175
                                Just checking in. My fingers are crossed, seems to me like things are going in your favor. I am nervous about the other children. How sad. It's all just unthinkable.

                                I can't imagine Reese not being yours. Every child deserves wonderful parents like you and your husband. Don't let them extinguish the twinkle out of your eye!! Can't wait to see more pictures! Stay strong, we are all pulling for you!

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                                • #176
                                  Applesauce- good luck to you, your husband and to baby Reese! Hope everything works out for you guys...jingles from Wisconsin
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                                  • #177
                                    I am still keeping my fingers crossed for you and that adorable baby. She needs a real mommy and not only that, but parents who can give her those things that her real mother could never give her - monetary and otherwise.

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                                    • #178


                                      How about an update??

                                      how's Everything??

                                      BarbaraG
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                                      • #179
                                        Wow

                                        I just read this whole thread...all 9 pages of it!

                                        Got my fingers crossed for you!

                                        I do have a question for you though. I am sure that Social Services has different rules here in Canada, but how were they able to put this child up for adoption so soon? In Canada they often place the child in Foster Care for up to 6 months before placing a child who was abandonded.

                                        Not that I am saying anything bad here, but when I read your first post, I thought to myself "What if the Mom comes back"? it was something like 24 hours after Reese was born.

                                        Like I said, got my fingers crossed for you.....how is she doing?

                                        happy horsin!
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                                          #180
                                          Update: Well, we are still in the holding pattern. The next hearing is on the 20th and everything will be decided then as to if she will remain in foster care with us or go back to the family. The latest is that the mother isn't a "threat". She hasn't showed for any of the visits. BUT...the father and the father's mother had their first visit today. They are trying to get her. They have to pass the homestudy and there are some things that still concern SS about that home so we'll just have to see.

                                          In the mean time we are still loving her and adore her to pieces. She's a joy to have and a happy baby. We are still hoping for the best. Please continue to pray for us and jingle the HECK out of those curb chains and tractor chains on the 20th.

                                          4_beatin_it: She isn't eligible for adoption yet. She was placed with us in emergency custody. But we initially took her because we were under the impression that she WOULD be eventually placed up for adoption. Now, with all that's happened, we just don't know at this point. If parental rights are terminated, then like Canada, she has to be in foster care for 6 months. At that point we can file the petition for adoption. Hope that clears up any confustion.

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