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What if I don't like the feed my trainer uses while my horse is there???

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  • #21
    if horse isn't on feed currently then he doesn't need anything and I assume trainer will give him hay when he's stalled - the only thing I can think he would get grain is a small handful so he doesn't feel left out while the others are eating.

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    • #22
      I agree, if your horse isn't eating grain now and is an easy keeper I doubt he's going to be needing gobs of grain at the trainers. Personally I think you are making a big deal out of nothing--what exactly are you worried is going to happen to your horse from eating a handful or a cup of Omolene 100 or some Strategy each day for two months? I'm actually quite curious as to what you think would happen to him.

      Just request that your horse have plenty of hay when stalled, and mention that he is not requiring any grain right now and you don't think he should need much. I don't feed purina/Omolene, but I've seen many horses survive just fine on it over many years. The other option would be to bring your own feed, which shouldn't be difficult if you are going once a week.

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      • #23
        Exactly as the above poster stated - a cup of anything is not going to make a bit of difference. Just have them give him a handful to make him think he is getting something when the others do.
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        • #24
          Or just ask them to give him a handful of orchardgrass pellets when the others get fed. That way your horse is not left out and stressed during graining and he is eating the same food as you would ordinarily have him on.

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            #25
            Originally posted by BeeHoney View Post
            I agree, if your horse isn't eating grain now and is an easy keeper I doubt he's going to be needing gobs of grain at the trainers. Personally I think you are making a big deal out of nothing--what exactly are you worried is going to happen to your horse from eating a handful or a cup of Omolene 100 or some Strategy each day for two months? I'm actually quite curious as to what you think would happen to him.....
            I don't think anything is going to "happen" to him by eating Purina Omolene 100 or Strategy, I was just asking for opinions on whether I was being over sensitive. I don't like Omolene 100 because its practically junk compared to other feeds out there; way too high in sugar. This horse has enough energy, he doesn't need candy bars for breakfast and dinner.

            Would I be too much of a diva if I asked about other feed possibilities or bringing my own feed for only 60 days of him being at the trainer?
            Sounds like your answer to that question is yes.

            I will likely just request that IF he needs anything more while he is there, to please use the Strategy as it's lower in sugar.
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              #26
              Originally posted by costco_muffins View Post
              Or just ask them to give him a handful of orchardgrass pellets when the others get fed. That way your horse is not left out and stressed during graining and he is eating the same food as you would ordinarily have him on.
              He doesn't mind being left out at feed time. He gets hay while my mare gets grain and is fine. I don't feel bad "leaving him out" so I'm not worried about that at all. He might gaze longingly at her while she starts eating, but then quickly realizes he isn't getting any and goes to happily munching on hay.
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              • #27
                I would not make a blanket statement that someone who is sending their horse to a trainer for a limited time asking about bringing their own feed is being a diva. It makes perfect sense to ask and not have to change your horse's diet for a short stint somewhere else.

                On the other hand, in the case of your horse as you describe it, you are for sure making a mountain out of a molehill here.

                You have a horse that stays fat on grass hay and does not eat grain, not a horse that eats six pounds of grain at a feeding.

                This is a trainer you picked to train your horse for sixty days. I should hope you are able to communicate with them enough to talk about your horse's diet. Tell him your horse normally does fine on grass hay, ask what their hay is. Maybe it has some added alfalfa or is better quality so the extra calories burned by training will be accommodated that way. If not then simply discuss how he wants you to handle providing for those extra calories.

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                • #28
                  I'm imagining that if he's at the trainers, he's going to be worked more than when he as at home. He will need the calories. If he's only there for sixty days and you don't plan on feeding him grain when he gets home, the feed wouldn't bother me, it's not going to *hurt* him. If you plan on feeding grain when he gets home because you're going to be working him more, I would bring bags of whatever you plan to feed and get him started on that. You can always bring the extra bags back home with you when the horse comes home.
                  Kerri

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                  • #29
                    Originally posted by SuckerForHorses View Post
                    I don't think anything is going to "happen" to him by eating Purina Omolene 100 or Strategy, I was just asking for opinions on whether I was being over sensitive. I don't like Omolene 100 because its practically junk compared to other feeds out there; way too high in sugar. This horse has enough energy, he doesn't need candy bars for breakfast and dinner.



                    Sounds like your answer to that question is yes.

                    I will likely just request that IF he needs anything more while he is there, to please use the Strategy as it's lower in sugar.
                    I don't think you're being overly sensitive. Some horses can be really sensitive to changes in feeding, and if your horse does need more calories and needs a regular serving size of grain, I don't think it's bad to be concerned about what he's being fed. We unexpectedly switched grains at my barn (long story) and it turned my mare into a kook. As soon as they switched back to a grain more like the one she was getting before, she was back her normal, quieter self. I'm also very very sensitive about ulcers, so I always want to be aware of what and how much grain my horse is getting.
                    Last edited by hj0519; Mar. 28, 2014, 12:58 PM.

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                    • #30
                      If he doesn't need additional calories in training, then he doesn't get grain. If he needs some extra, then provide your own grain and make sure you provide plenty of it (not just one bag at a time.) Not sure why this is such a production, it's pretty simple....?

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                      • #31
                        Originally posted by BeeHoney View Post
                        I'm actually quite curious as to what you think would happen to him.
                        Well it wasn't either mentioned feed but BO insisted on giving her feed to my horse despite all requests to the contrary - she wsn't cleaning up the explosive diarrhoea so what did she care ... I guess ...

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                          #32
                          Originally posted by skipollo View Post
                          Not sure why this is such a production, it's pretty simple....?
                          Um, I'm not making a big production of it. I simply asked if others thought it would make me a diva given the circumstances that I outlined.

                          I will likely just tell the trainer that if he needs extra calories to please feed Strategy which is lower in sugars.

                          I'm also very very sensitive about ulcers, so I always want to be aware of what and how much grain my horse is getting.
                          Same here; which is why there are other feeds I would use before ever turning to Purina anything. This is also why I am more sensitive to what my horses get fed. I've dealt with one with ulcers and would prefer to avoid them in this horse.
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                          • #33
                            Since they feed Purina, would they give your guy a little bit of Ultium? I know it's more expensive, but it's the only Purina feed I would give my horse if I *had* to use one of their feeds.
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                            • #34
                              When I have had horses in training or in a full care board situation where I didn't like the concentrate they were feeding I supplied my own. Most barns and trainers are accommodating when it comes to feed, as long as it doesn't make extra work.

                              Right now the pony mare that I have in full care is insulin resistant, so she can't have the "barn grain". She gets a tiny amount of low starch grain to hide her supplements and medications. With her I can actually make up about a month worth of baggies at a time because she gets so little grain. They go in a bucket with a lid in front of her stall. Instead of scooping out of the feed cart, they just grab a bag from her bucket.

                              Several years ago when my hotheaded, hard keeper mare went into training she had to have grain to keep weight on, even with free choice grass hay and 2 flakes of alfalfa per day. The trainer's grain of choice (LMF Gold) turned her from a hothead to a nervous wreck. Started supplying her usual grain and she settled right in. I'd make up about a week's worth of bags at a time for her.
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                              • #35
                                Nah, feed your own food. Your horse, your choice.

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