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Don't Go on This Trail Ride if You Are Afraid of Heights!

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  • #21
    Yep yep yep, bucket list!
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    • #22
      You guys are funny! It looks like a very well maintained, rather wide trail, and these are mules. I've been on narrower, rockier and twistier mountain trails, and the horses we rode had a questionable sense of self-preservation. I had my heart in my throat many times on that trek and we had to get off and walk at times, praying that the horses would follow in our steps, or else...sheer drop off a cliff.

      The Grand Canyon is GORGEOUS country tho and, while the mule riding doesn't appeal to me because you're mostly walking, or so I've heard... I would love to hike those trails. I LOVE the photos posted above!
      Some day.
      Ottbs - The finish line is only the beginning!


      • #23
        Blech, I couldn't even watch it. Though i once rode over a small dam when I was 12. It was maybe 40 feet of dam wall straight down on either side and a yard across. I was 12 years old, and my sister ahead of me, having cleared the dam picked up a trot, while i was still on the dam.

        I'm telling you this is how lifelong psychological and trust issues are created LOL.


        • #24
          Originally posted by PeteyPie View Post
          Oh and then they come around the corner and the snow is all over... WHAT IF THEY HIT ICE!!! WHAT THEN, MR. MAN????

          I am afraid of heights.

          But it was soooo beautiful!
          I have done this trail in FOOT (not on horseback no way, no thanks!!) - and yes, there IS ICE!!! I did the trail in the early spring - started snowing above us as we climbed back up, and conditions did turn icy and slippery. Luckily I had "crampons" and quickly put them on my boots so that I would not slip around.

          And yes, you did have to scoot out of the way for the mules to pass.

          I am afraid of heights as well - so sheer drop offs + ice was not my favorite part- but is a beautiful place, and was very worth it.

          The Angle's Landing Trail in Zion National Park was another one we did on that trip. Again, really tested my fear of heights - but what an amazing place!

          up and up!

          Don't look down!

          Down was more unnerving than up.

          But the view is worth it

          [edited to add - after googling angle's landing (its been 15+ years since I hiked it, I was a college kid back then), and reading an account of a young girl almost falling to her death (there have been a number of deaths in the last few years due to falls), I don't think I have the nerve to do it again]
          APPSOLUTE CHOCKLATE - Photo by Kathy Colman


          • #25
            Ok, now I want to go hiking SO BAD!! lol
            Thanks for those gorgeous photos.
            But there is a chain to hang on to.
            That is cheating.
            Ottbs - The finish line is only the beginning!


            • #26
              oh, it is so beautiful... but no way, no how... Do they have to turn around and come back down that trail or does it go down the other side? and I guess going back down would even be worse than going up...

              I admire people who do this... esp. for a living!


              • #27
                Oh Appsolute, those photos were breathtaking! The last one is so unreal it looks like a painting. Gorgeous.

                I actually think that looks less scary than the mule photos because of the sturdy-looking chain and posts. I could take it slow...

                Did you take the photos? So nice.
                "Random capitAlization really Makes my day." -- AndNirina


                • #28
                  I think I would get over my fear of heights to HIKE that...I trust my feet when they're on the ground. lol

                  Riding on it? As long as I had a steady, steady, mount, MAYBE. I rode a trail that was absolutely nowhere near that, which was kind of frightening, and only had one or two sections of somewhat steep switchbacks. Granted, moist loose dirt probably slides under hooves a lot easier than Grand Canyon rock does. But, still!
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                  Originally posted by Pat9
                  When it's time for a horse to go to a new person, that person will appear. It's pony magic.


                  • #29
                    Originally posted by PeteyPie View Post
                    Oh Appsolute, those photos were breathtaking! The last one is so unreal it looks like a painting. Gorgeous.

                    I actually think that looks less scary than the mule photos because of the sturdy-looking chain and posts. I could take it slow...

                    Did you take the photos? So nice.
                    I did not take these photos, pulled them off of google images - I went on this hike before the "ditigal era" and have only hard prints (we went when there was a light dusting of snow like THIS - breathtaking).

                    Zion National Park is an amazing place - I need to get back there soon, I describe it as Yosemite in color (while Yosemite is more "black and white").

                    As for the chains - and the hike. Yes, they DO give you something to hold on to. But I have a pretty serious fear of heights when it comes to stuff like this (on the top of a bridge or high-rise - great, love the view - somewhere that there is an actual risk of falling to your death? I am petrified). There HAVE been a number of people who have fallen to their death on this trail - chains and all.
                    APPSOLUTE CHOCKLATE - Photo by Kathy Colman


                    • #30
                      Originally posted by Appsolute View Post
                      [edited to add - after googling angle's landing (its been 15+ years since I hiked it, I was a college kid back then), and reading an account of a young girl almost falling to her death (there have been a number of deaths in the last few years due to falls), I don't think I have the nerve to do it again]
                      Don't know if this is true but it makes sense: a friend told me that most people who fall to their deaths in the Grand Canyon do so in the process of taking photos or otherwise leaning out or stepping out too far for a view. So "pilot error" is the usual cause of falls and can be prevented with care and common sense.

                      I know there is a book at the visitors center/gift shop with details about all the people who have died at the canyon. Decades ago when the facilities were not so established, many would disappear at night when they would get up to go to the bathroom, just take a wrong turn and go off edge.
                      "Random capitAlization really Makes my day." -- AndNirina


                      • #31
                        I'd do it in a heartbeat. But I would much rather ride my saintly QH...
                        come what may

                        Rest in peace great mare, 1987-2013


                        • #32
                          If anyone hikes or rides this trail, please consider doing a helmet cam. Would love to watch the ride.
                          The virtual "woodshed" seems the only remedy for willful fools .


                          • #33
                            Originally posted by PeteyPie View Post
                            Don't know if this is true but it makes sense: a friend told me that most people who fall to their deaths in the Grand Canyon do so in the process of taking photos or otherwise leaning out or stepping out too far for a view. So "pilot error" is the usual cause of falls and can be prevented with care and common sense.
                            I agree, but after reading this story:

                            Close call on Angels Landing still haunts California cop (about a young girl who took her hand off the chain when letting people pass - started to slip, and... almost fell to her death.) The story ends with a list of 6 people who have fallen to their death along that stretch between 2006-2012.

                            I am sure the deaths are very RARE - and mostly people not prepared or paying attention, but I have only one real phobia - and that is heights, and it has come up as an issue out backpacking off trail (scooting along a granite face with a river below is not my idea of fun). You are NOT getting me up high on a ladder (no way, no how!), and coming back down the top of that Angel's landing trail really pushed my limits. KNOWING that it is possible to slip and fall (even though very very unlikely) tends to throw me into a panic.

                            So I agree, risk is small, its a well traveled trail - but maybe not the first pick for those with height phobias.
                            APPSOLUTE CHOCKLATE - Photo by Kathy Colman


                            • #34
                              We went to Zion years and years ago, before we had kids, on a camping trip. We only hiked the bottom of the canyon (IN the river). Which was a lot of fun too, but I wish I'd known about this high trail.
                              We also hiked in Bryce Canyon, Canyon de Shelly (9 hour hike, with a Navajo guide), Canyonland, Arches, lake Powell.. it was a great trip. I even coerced my DH and in-laws to go on a 2 hour horseback ride with me in Monument Valley. (in-laws were sore for days afterwards, )
                              Ottbs - The finish line is only the beginning!


                              • #35
                                re: mules: at least that section of trail is wide enough to get off and the mules aren't packing. Why do they say the hiker has to be on the drop side of the trail? because I got stuck on the drop side of a steep slopeside trail once here in Haiti, couldn't scramble upslope out of the way at the point where the pack pony reached me. The pack basket swung out and bumped me as we passed, and my center of gravity got pushed over the edge. I had to dive for a clump of grass to avoid a plenty-too-long drop, and wound up hanging off the trail by two hands and a foot and plenty of scrambling.
                                HAS provides hospital care to 340,000 people in Haiti's Artibonite Valley 24/7/365/earthquake/cholera/whatever.
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                                • #36
                                  Reminds me of riding the Knife Edge Trail in Kauai, Hawaii. (I painted this watercolor there quite a few years ago--the stable uses it on their website: http://kauaihorses.com/files/2009/11...therainbow.gif)

                                  The Knife Edge Trail is just what it sounds like--not for anyone who doesn't like skinny trails or looking down from wa-a-a-ay up high. But the little Arab cross trail horses navigated that pass as nonchalantly as if they were walking down the barn aisle.

                                  My guide told me of a pair of so-called dressage riders who'd been on that ride. First they complained about the western saddles, then they complained about the footing. Then they tried to put their trail horses into a frame. And when they got to the Knife Edge Pass, they turned green, got off and walked! So for the honor of dressage and English riders, I stayed on, let my horse have his head, didn't complain and had a great time!


                                  • #37
                                    Did the ride years ago when I was much younger (and braver). It was such an amazing life experience for me. The pictures I took along the way just couldn't do justice to the beauty. Phantom Ranch was really neat too.
                                    \"Tomorrow is a new day with no mistakes in it.\" Anne of Green Gables


                                    • #38
                                      This will make a nice addition to my NOPE!book.

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