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Anybody here ride with/know someone who rode with Jackie Kennedy Onassis?

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  • Anybody here ride with/know someone who rode with Jackie Kennedy Onassis?

    ...just saw lots of things in the news today since it's 11/22...45 years later.

    I see she was big into foxhunting in Virginia, and thought maybe someone here could share some stories if they rode with or knew her.

    I've always admired her greatly and would like to learn some more about her, especially her with horses.

  • #2
    There is a wonderful book that came out a few years ago, it's almost a coffee table book but it has lots of text about her. It's called Jacqueline Kennedy: Portrait of a Rider.
    I believe that's it, I'll double check when I get home. But you would probably really enjoy that.
    "Perhaps the final test of anybody's love of dogs is their willingness to permit them to make a camping ground of the bed" -Henry T. Merwin


    • Original Poster

      Oh wow - I just looked it up on Amazon...

      It's called 'The Private Passion of Jackie Kennedy Onassis: Portrait of a Rider.'

      Guess what I'm adding to my x-mas list!


      • #4
        I have read that book. It is a good book but I really hunger for more info. I have a slightly different kind of story about her, a horse that she was trying who had been an eventer and had a nervous breakdown on course, was sent to Jackie to try and the horse ran away with her in the hunt field. True story. I cannot tell you who bought the horse and then tried to make a bunch of money cause he would jump the moon, at that time she had him on trial with a 70 plus year old woman! When I told that dealer the story she very visiby blanched. I rode the dude and he was a nice horse, sans the hounds and all the commotion he was a lovely trail horse. I was just told not to try any trot sets with him! Since I did not want to fly around that trappy area in Loudoun County out of control, believe me I complied! This was prior to her much publicized fall in the field, that was not part of the story thankfully.
        Last edited by Calamber; Nov. 22, 2008, 08:50 PM.
        "We, too, will be remembered not for victories or defeats in battle or in politics, but for our contribution to the human spirit." JFK


        • #5
          I have that book, it's very good. I did have the pleasure of hunting with her once or twice, and competed against her at the pair races and the Orange County Team Event. The last horse she had, Be Frank, was one super horse and they deservedly one top prize at the OCH Team Event one year- 89, I think.

          I will say that even though she didn't know me from Adam she was always cordial and gracious. Once, while in Middleburg, I popped into Journeyman to do a bit of Xmas shopping, found a couple of items, and stepped to the register at exactly the same time she did. I said 'after you,' she said 'no, after you,' and so it went for a few seconds- and she ended up winning, as in, I went first. I still can't believe I lost the Alphonse and Gaston routine, I ALWAYS win that.


          • #6
            Until her death, Mrs. O kept a few hunting horses at her private barn in NJ. She hunted with Essex Hunt. I was friendly with her barn manager. She definately loved to hunt and was passionate about her horses. When she died, the family gave away most of her horses and shut the barn down. I seem to recall that Caroline kept one of them for herself.


            • #7
              Originally posted by Jaegermonster View Post
              There is a wonderful book that came out a few years ago, it's almost a coffee table book but it has lots of text about her. It's called Jacqueline Kennedy: Portrait of a Rider.
              I believe that's it, I'll double check when I get home. But you would probably really enjoy that.
              I have this book. It's really gorgeous. I look through it all the time. I find it inspiring. Light on the text, but the pictures are so beautiful. She was such an elegant rider. I loved seeing all the horses she owned over the years. Horses were a big, big part of her life. I also love the fact that, no matter what, Jackie always made room in her life to ride. Truly she is someone to admire.


              • #8
                She hunted with us for years at Essex- a lovely rider and top notch horsewoman who hunted first flight and loved it......I remember one run at Dillon's where we came upon a huge overgrown brush fence that had been on the steeplechase course for the Essex Horse Trials- Our huntsman jumped it, the fieldmaster opted out and only three of us then went for it- me, my dear English friend Susan, and Mrs O-we lost the rest of the field, had a great day......Another year, at our hunter trials, she won just about every class and deservedly so- but had a fall in the schooling area, and guess what pic ended up on the front page of the NY paper the next day? Without a mention of how well she did otherwise.....

                Bev Strauss
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                • #9
                  I just love that book. I have it on the dresser in my guestroom, which is done in all foxhunting stuff, and my guests have really enjoyed the book.
                  I can sit and look at the pictures for hours (when I have time to sit still that long).
                  She was lovely rider, and very elegant
                  "Perhaps the final test of anybody's love of dogs is their willingness to permit them to make a camping ground of the bed" -Henry T. Merwin


                  • #10
                    Bev, what a neat story. How did we end up on the same thread? I guess we are all reminiscing, I need a good warm fire and a glass or so of my favorite Bush Mills. Can you please answer my question about that grey mare?
                    "We, too, will be remembered not for victories or defeats in battle or in politics, but for our contribution to the human spirit." JFK


                    • #11
                      My pathetic story:

                      I worked in McClean and dashed out to see as much of the Fairfax races as possible on a rainy Staturday after work.

                      When I arrive the rail was packed except for a perfect spot right at the finish line. Nobody else was there but one small lady covered up in a plastic rain poncho and a few oddly dressed men standing off to the sides and behind her.

                      It was the perfect spot to view the races so I just sent a stood next to her. She turned, smiled and nodded at me and we watched the last races of the day.

                      It wasn't until I got home and started cleaning stalls I realized who she was, why there was a circle around her and why several men in suits were at the races on a rainy Saturday.

                      I guess I wasn't supposed to stand there, but she was too much of a lady to have me removed


                      • #12
                        Ooh, I'm putting that book on my Christmas list! I've flipped through it in the store, but it hasn't come home with me yet.

                        My family are landowners with Midland Fox Hounds, and I believe in Midland founder Ben Hardaway's book Never Outfoxed, there is a pic and a little blurb about Jackie O. hunting with them.
                        Some nights I stay up cashing in my bad luck; some nights I call it a draw. -- fun.

                        My favorite podcasts: Overdue, The Black Tapes, Tanis, Rabbits, How Did This Get Made?, Up and Vanished.


                        • #13
                          My riding instructor foxhunted with Jackie Kennedy -- Said he didn't get to talk to her, but ran into her horse (on accident), said he was sorry....she apparently smiled and was "very good looking"
                          To be loved by a horse should fill us with awe, for we hath not deserved it.


                          • #14
                            She showed at my old barn

                            Andy Bass, the guy that's been working to put Boulder Brook on the National Historic Registry List sent me a package a few years ago that contained a photo of Jackie sitting on the mounting block that I used every day for years. It's burried in a broken filing cabinet and when I can get someone to rebuild it, I'll find it, scan it and post it for you all. I think it was the 1950's. I was there from 1964-1971.
                            "The best thing for the inside of a man is the outside of a horse" Lord Palmerston


                            • #15
                              My mom was on the same show circuit when she was still "Bouvier." Since you all have such fond memories, I won't share mom's ... they were very different.


                              • Original Poster

                                Originally posted by CA ASB View Post
                                My mom was on the same show circuit when she was still "Bouvier." Since you all have such fond memories, I won't share mom's ... they were very different.
                                CA ASB - you can share with me via PM if you'd like...I don't mind hearing that she's not perfect, no one is!


                                • #17
                                  Wasn't she very young then? I'm sure we have all exhibited behavior on occasion in our younger years that we are less than proud of as adults
                                  "Perhaps the final test of anybody's love of dogs is their willingness to permit them to make a camping ground of the bed" -Henry T. Merwin


                                  • #18
                                    Well, yeah, I know someone who knew her waaay back and doesn't share in the universal adulation. Nobody's perfect! But his stories are entertaining.


                                    • #19
                                      Some of you may have been born before Nov. 1963. Despite her own grief, the way she arranged her husband's funeral helped keep this country from disintegrating. If tragedy truly tests character, she passed the test. Years later, she said something to the effect that the American people would forgive her anything unless she ran off with Eddie Fisher. If you understand the context of that remark, you're of a certain age or know too much movie star trivia ...


                                      • #20
                                        Mom's stories are very entertaining, and let's just say that somewhere along the way she must have been sent to charm school. This was far more than a case of "less than proud of" behavior and more of a radical 180 degree personality change had to happen.