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Would you buy pet food made from horsemeat?

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  • #41
    Originally posted by amastrike
    No. I wouldn't buy pet food made from humans or cats or dogs, I wouldn't buy pet food made from horses. Pet food is supposed to be FOR pets, not FROM them.
    I like this.
    When I was a girl loooong ago there was a company called Hill's that sold canned horse meat for dogs. I wouldn't feed it to my dogs then and I wouldn't now. If horse slaughter ever became widely accepted I think we would see herds of horses raised for slaughter. I don't ever want to see that. I don't want to pass the butcher shop and see pups waiting for a buyer either as it is in some other places. Gives a whole new meaning to "how much is that doggie in the window." I guess that'll be next. In mho what we need is for morons to stop all this breeding anything and everything that has overies. Before someone points out (again) that cattle, hogs and chickens are slaughtered..I know. The way laying hens are often kept in tiny cages their whole life and sows are chained to the floor in some places makes me sick, too, but you have to pick your battles and my first battle is for our friends the horses. To supply horses for human consumption just "ain't" American.
    Ok, flame away if you wish, not even putting on a flame suit. I may be old but I'm really tough when it comes to something I believe in. Ready....set....fire.
    You know why cowboys don't like Appaloosas?" - Answer: Because to train a horse, you have to be smarter than it is.

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    • #42
      If someone took up the unwanted animals and found some humane way to euthanize them, and funded it by selling them as pet food, I would be all for it.

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      • #43
        It ain't american. Sorry but I and every person I know who raises horses are americans and have been all our lives and some have been raising horses since the 40's so its not exactly anything new.
        Quality doesn\'t cost it pays.

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        • #44
          Originally posted by county View Post
          It ain't american. Sorry but I and every person I know who raises horses are americans and have been all our lives and some have been raising horses since the 40's so its not exactly anything new.
          Don't think that's what I said.
          Do you raise yours for human consumption?? That's what I don't think is American.
          You know why cowboys don't like Appaloosas?" - Answer: Because to train a horse, you have to be smarter than it is.

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          • #45
            Originally posted by county View Post
            It ain't american. Sorry but I and every person I know who raises horses are americans and have been all our lives and some have been raising horses since the 40's so its not exactly anything new.
            Yeah I guess it is just like where I was raised in India. There cows are the euivalent of horses there. Most people had only a few cows. So you knew them individually and they had halters and you led them around and tied them. In those days the bullocks(gelded bulls) were very valuable for pulling carts/plows/irrigating water. So generally we had a close relationship with the cows. but most of us were Hindus -so we didn't eat cow-plus we knew them personally. But when they got somehwat old-we usually had someone else come over and do a slaughter. Most people couldn't afford keeping non-useful stock-poor country. But they did it humanely-just walked it over to another side of the village and it was over quickly. The ones that could afford it-kept their old ones till the end-unless they became too infirm.

            But I moved and as a kid lived all over-so got to eating beef. Just horses I still have that heart strings factor-same with dogs and cats and so i can't eat them-logically I see your point though.....

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            • #46
              In mho what we need is for morons to stop all this breeding anything and everything that has overies.
              That's the problem though. You can't stop them. I recently adopted a puppy from a rescue. It's obvious that she's a purebred German Shepherd. The breeder brought three of the litter to a kill shelter. Despite the fact that he lives in a very impoverished area and the economy is in such a bad state, he kept on breeding. He just took the ones he couldn't sell to a kill shelter. Some people will never stop breeding their backyard pets, no matter what.

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              • #47
                There is no easy solution to the over population of our equine pets, buddies, livestock, whatever you wish to call yours. I can only worry about my own, I have a personal account that every two weeks when I get paid, I put in $100 or more so I can have something to fall back on should an emergency arise or I need hay. I am also very fortunate that my husband has a good paying job and he helps with my hay bill or vet bills as well. They aren't just my horses, they are our horses.

                I didn't grow up to believe that my horses are to be eaten, I was taught by my dad, who was a hell of a horseman, that they are companions and a means of transportation and to be loved and cared for. Being that I am Virginia, I can't possibly bury my horses on my property, our water table and the amount of trees that are on our property would make it impossible. My best friend down the road offered for me to bury them on her land if that is what it takes. I couldn't also, with a clear soul, ever eat a horse or think about feeding it to my dogs. Long ago yes they were used by the American Indians, soldiers, settlers, etc. for a means of food and nutrients, however, in todays world we don't need that extra meat to be sold. If any grocery story started to sell horse meat I would refuse to give them my patronage and go elsewhere and would tell anyone else I could find not to go there either. This is me and my humble opinion...cows, chickens, pigs, goats, sheep, etc. are to be eaten, that is what i was brought up to believe, that is what my children and my grand daughter will be brought up to know and believe.

                County, you didn't answer the question, have ANY of your horses gone for human consumption and have you ever sent your horses to slaughter or a rendering plant? Simple yes or no to both questions will do. You use to work in a slaughter house or rendering plant, which ever one you wish to call it.

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                • #48
                  No. I love my pets to much. They get fed free range lamb meat imported from New Zealand and a blend of dehydrated veggies, greens and fruit with vitamins and minerals.

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                  • #49
                    I have often thought about this. I have no problem with the surplus of horses being slaughtered. What to do with the meat? Why not feed it to those willing to eat it. My dog doesn't care where their kibble comes from neither do my cats now I think of it.

                    Why let meat go to waste?
                    Horse meat is one of the primary choices of the zoos for the big cats.
                    The ultimate goal of farming is not the growing of crops, but the cultivation and perfection of human beings.

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                    • #50
                      Originally posted by Belplosh View Post
                      ...cows, chickens, pigs, goats, sheep, etc. are to be eaten, that is what i was brought up to believe....
                      Ultimately, animals are raised for whatever reason humans want to raise them for. You don't want to eat horses. The Hindus don't want to eat cows. The Jews and Muslims don't want to eat pigs. That's all fine with me- if you don't want to eat it, just don't eat it! But in this pluralistic society of the USA, I don't think you should be able to dictate by law what kind of animal ANOTHER person (or, more relevantly to the OP, another person's pets!) can or can't eat.
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                      • #51
                        Originally posted by linquest View Post
                        Ultimately, animals are raised for whatever reason humans want to raise them for. You don't want to eat horses. The Hindus don't want to eat cows. The Jews and Muslims don't want to eat pigs. That's all fine with me- if you don't want to eat it, just don't eat it! But in this pluralistic society of the USA, I don't think you should be able to dictate by law what kind of animal ANOTHER person (or, more relevantly to the OP, another person's pets!) can or can't eat.
                        Yes, exactly. Very well put!

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                        • #52
                          Yep, I would. I have no problem with it at all. Meat is meat. Once the animal is dead, it dosen't care.

                          And to answer a poster's question (though it wasn't aimed at me) I have taken horses to slaughter. It's a bit different here in the UK though- We took them ourselves, and stayed while the job was done. They were handled very well and were not stressed in the slightest.

                          One horse was a chronic rearer- nothing wrong with him at all, he just had a screw loose upstairs. The other was a very bad tempered mare- again, nothing physically wrong, just hated humans and other horses with a passion.

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                          • #53
                            Echo, that is very different from the slaughter system here. The issue isn't that once they're dead they don't care, it's the way they're treated once they're in the auction/feedlot/slaughter pipeline. For those reasons I would not buy dog food made from slaughtered horses. If someone wants to slaughter their own horse at home and eat it or feed it to their dogs, I have no opposition to that. In fact our own proposed slaughter ban would not prohibit that. What it prohibits is the transport of horses to be slaughtered for human consumption.
                            \"Non-violence never solved anything.\" C. Montgomery Burns

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                            • #54
                              Belplosh if the person I sell horses to makes the decision to send them to slaughter then yes thats where they go. I've send many dead animals to the rendering plant pretty much every species of livestock I've owned.

                              PJ I raise mine fort whatever purpose the buyer chooses if thats for meat so be it after they leave here their not my property same as all the species I raise.
                              Quality doesn\'t cost it pays.

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                              • #55
                                Originally posted by MandyVA View Post
                                Echo, that is very different from the slaughter system here. The issue isn't that once they're dead they don't care, it's the way they're treated once they're in the auction/feedlot/slaughter pipeline. For those reasons I would not buy dog food made from slaughtered horses. If someone wants to slaughter their own horse at home and eat it or feed it to their dogs, I have no opposition to that. In fact our own proposed slaughter ban would not prohibit that. What it prohibits is the transport of horses to be slaughtered for human consumption.
                                Oh, yes. I realize that, which is why I posted the extra info. The way horses are transported there is awful IMO. It should be stopped.

                                What I'd like to see happen is the small, local slaughter houses being reopened. It would make transporting horses long distances pointless- you'd just take them to the local abattoir. Much better for everyone.

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                                • #56
                                  BTW I've taken 1000's of more animals to a slaughtering plant then a rendering plant theres nothing similar about them except they both have animals. Rendering has more species then slaughter.
                                  Quality doesn\'t cost it pays.

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                                  • #57
                                    Originally posted by county View Post
                                    BTW I've taken 1000's of more animals to a slaughtering plant then a rendering plant theres nothing similar about them except they both have animals. Rendering has more species then slaughter.
                                    I worked in the office of a rendering plant for a couple of years. We never had live animals brought in. Dead, yes. Bone, meat scraps and grease yes. You're right...ANYTHING might go in a rendering pot. Had to hold your breath from the car to the office but at least no animals were being slaughtered there.
                                    You know why cowboys don't like Appaloosas?" - Answer: Because to train a horse, you have to be smarter than it is.

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                                    • #58
                                      My dog doesn't need to be eating bute, dewormer, steriods, lasix, dmso, banamine, you name it. None of that crap is approved for meat-animal use, and with no withdrawl period for horse slaughter... no thank you.

                                      I am old enough to remember when canned horsemeat dogfood was on store shelves. It didn't sell, and it vanished.
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                                      • #59
                                        Actually MayS that " crap " is approved for meat animal use and is used in every species their is. Growth hormones, wormers, banamine especially is used in cattle and approved.
                                        Quality doesn\'t cost it pays.

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                                        • #60
                                          Originally posted by MayS View Post
                                          My dog doesn't need to be eating bute, dewormer, steriods, lasix, dmso, banamine, you name it. None of that crap is approved for meat-animal use, and with no withdrawl period for horse slaughter... no thank you.
                                          So which organic dog food do you feed? If you're not feeding organic, I guarantee you your dog is eating a meat source that was dewormed, treated with antibiotics and potentially growth hormones. Sure there are withdrawal periods, but I think everything you list IS approved for meat animal use.

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