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  • Custom western saddle questions?

    I am posting this in here rather than in the western forum in hoping to get more feedback
    I am considering getting a custom made saddle from a local maker, and am hoping that I can get some suggestions and feedback before I fully commit.
    I am aiming for this route for a few reasons, but most importantly because I am in an area where there are few tack shops, so while I might luck out and find what I need, chances are good it will take me a long time - and my current saddle doesn't fit my horse.
    Second reason is that we both have fit issues, so even with hunting online both in store websites and Ebay and so on, makes it a gamble to order something that might or might not fit.
    There is a local maker whose saddles I am looking into, in a price range that I can work with. I don't know anybody who owns any of his, but the pictures I've seen are nice. My next step is seeing some hard copy pictures of previous saddles that he's made (ie from a film camera) and to visit his shop and see what he is currently making. He is also willing to fit my gelding with a custom order tree if needed - big issue might be wither clearance, but otherwise probably semi QH bars.
    That all taken into account, is there anything I should be looking for or thinking about when I look at his work?

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    I guess for that kind of money, you NEED to talk to some of his previous customers and how well his saddles worked for them. We have a number of saddle folks locally, and the quality varies widely. Some can't even FIX a few broken stitches well, they are big and clunky looking. Others make saddles, but leather it too thick, ugly colors, poor edge matching fit, bad stitching again, so it looks like a "cheap" saddle. That is all before you even get to fit on the horse.

    I would haul horse over to his shop, try on the wood trees on naked horse back to find the best fit. Shoulders and withers, probably won't change much unless you plan to rope off horse. But width over the spine, how the bars curve at the ends, lay on his ribs, will matter a lot too. Length of those bars could have ends digging in on a long-backed horse, or overlapping on the loins of a short-backed horse.

    My horses are Sporthorses in style, cross breds who are very similar in build and size. All are VERY short-backed, so no saddles with long skirts. All have BIG shoulders, decent withers, so I need both WIDE and TALL, to fit them. Good news is when a saddle fits one, it fits ALL of them, with only girth adjustments for barrel sizes.

    I have looked at a LOT of saddles over the years, never could afford a custom one. Bought and sold MANY saddles that LOOKED good, just didn't fit right when you put them on the horses. Actually have two saddles, both QH bars, but not wide enough in front, wrong bar angle, to resell at the seasonal Tack Sales coming up.

    Have found a Running P, rodeo trophy saddle that is NICE on one horse. Haven't had much riding time in it yet, but seems to be one he likes! Will be looking to find another Running P, with or without the ALL-Around Cowboy lettering as a second saddle. Not sure what tree they use, but it is making me happy with the fit. They are Roping saddles, may be a new design for the modern style Roping horses being used now that are faster and not quite as blocky as was used in the past. I had a nice Roping saddle for these horses before, fit THEM well, but was not comfortable to ME, so I moved it on. Also weighed in at over 50 pounds (can we say HEAVY LEATHER?), which got progressively harder to throw up on 17H horses. Excellent quality, Veale was the maker, made it to be a real Roping saddle, so no matter what you lassoed, saddle would hold it.

    I know some folks have used casting kits, made on their horse back, so saddlemaker could fit the saddle tree to the horse from far away. Seat also needs to fit you comfortably. I don't like high back saddles, no room to move, may need a bigger seat for comfort than with a lower cantle back. Width for girls is more comfortable with a "narrow twist" to sit, than guys would like. Guys like flatter seats, with a little more width, for comfort, especially in all day riding. I like the padded seats over slick, but that is your choice along with other details. I like carved leather all over or basket stamping, gives me more grip than slick leather does if it gets rough with a young horse. I am seeing a lot of slick leather on saddles these days, so fashions change in working or showing equipment.

    Let us know how the search goes for you.

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    • #3
      I'd really really want to be seeing some of his previous work and talking to his previous clients. He should have a portfolio and references ready. Any other work you can see, saddle bags? Check the stitching and tooling/dye work...

      What kind of leather is he using? From where?
      What kind of tree? From where?
      Real sheepskin or synthetic?

      Semi-bars are extremely common and a high gullet isn't too hard to find; if those are your fit issues then I'd say you might be able to find something off the shelf and if not, your saddle maker should be able to deal with the fit pretty easily.
      “Most people do not listen with the intent to understand; they listen with the intent to reply.” Stephen R. Covey

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      • #4
        I am in the process of having a western saddle made myself. First time I have ever done this.

        I am also using a local saddle shop. The guy came out with different trees and fit my horse. Once we knew what tree my mare needed I asked to ride in one of his saddles. Then we proceeded to outline what my saddle would consist of. Luckily, he has a lot of saddles in his shop so I could visualize what mine would look like.

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        • #5
          Exactly the process I would want to follow, for a custom saddle. Congrats on your new saddle-to-be!

          Originally posted by SaddleUp158 View Post
          I am in the process of having a western saddle made myself. First time I have ever done this.

          I am also using a local saddle shop. The guy came out with different trees and fit my horse. Once we knew what tree my mare needed I asked to ride in one of his saddles. Then we proceeded to outline what my saddle would consist of. Luckily, he has a lot of saddles in his shop so I could visualize what mine would look like.

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          • #6
            Were I able to do it there is a saddle maker who's work I am familiar with from other locals who actually makes the tree to custom fit the horse. With my slung back big shouldered horses the best fit would be the main driver. I guess I would list my priorities in order as to what I was getting with the custom saddle and make my selection of the best maker to meet that criteria.

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