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  • WWYD? Vet asks for help holding someone else's horse

    I was put in a very uncomfortable spot the other day. I was just leaving the barn, and a guy I don't know pulls up in a truck. He says he's boarder X's vet and asked if I would be able to help hold her horse while he gives a shot. He says he lives with boarder X and he gives semi-regular joint injections. He also said he tends to show up whenever he can and often boarder X can't be there when he is.

    I'm new to the barn and the area and have never met this boarder. I do know her name and which horse belongs to her. I have no idea if he gets joint injections. The guy has a pick up truck in good condition, with a big coverall type thing on the back that could have conceivably held vet supplies. It looked like something a legitimate mobile vet would drive. He was polite and tidy and seemed to know what he was talking about.

    He and I were the only ones on the property at the time, so I couldn't ask the owner. I didn't have contact information for boarder X so I couldn't ask her. I was uncomfortable saying no and walking away, because I had no real reason to doubt what he was saying and being new to the area I didn't want to start off on the wrong foot by insulting a vet. But of course I was also uncomfortable handling someone else's horse without permission, especially someone I've never met before, and especially for a shot.

    What would you have done?

  • #2
    I would've helped, but I'm also not paranoid about things like that.

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    • #3
      That's kind of odd.

      I probably would have called up the BO or BM and let them know what was going on. It's not really your job to help.

      I would have said something along the lines of "Gosh, I'm really sorry, I have to make an appointment, but let me give so-and-so a call for you." Unless you wanted to help.

      Stuff like this is why I always hang contact numbers on my horse's stall door and make it clear that anybody can call me at anytime for anything involving my girl.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Tha Ridge View Post
        I would've helped, but I'm also not paranoid about things like that.
        Ditto this.

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        • #5
          I agree that is kind of an odd thing and I can see how you felt uncomfortable, being new to the barn and not knowing the horse or its owner. The vet needs to get an assistant!

          Have you spoken to the BO/BM/horse owner since? Just to make sure everything was kosher?

          You could also ask for a card and play it off like you might be looking for a vet. Just to make sure he is legitimately a vet.

          I also have my name/number on my horse's stall and encourage people to call me for anything.
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          • #6
            I would have helped also and then made sure to tell the horse's owner later. Something like, "Oh I held your horse for the vet yesterday and then I had this disturbing thought, what if he wasn't really your vet? He was your vet, right?"

            That way you make yourself happy. I'm sure it was her vet. The odds of some ne'er do well identifying himself and then doing something so obscure as an injection... the odds are long.
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            • #7
              If I had been there boarding for some time, I probably would've helped. But, if it were me in your situation - being the new boarder - I would've gracefully declined.
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              • #8
                Originally posted by Superminion View Post
                It's not really your job to help.
                What a strange thing to say.

                It's not really my job to slow down for old people crossing the road, or to pick up lost dogs, or render first aid, or call people if I see their horse got injured, or pick up litter, or call 911 if I see your house is on fire, but there a whole lot of helpful things that are part of not being an ass and are therefore part of everybody's role in being a member of a community.

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                • #9
                  It really is a tough situation to be put in. Horse owners are a weird bunch and what one horse owner has no issue with the next goes off the deep end about. If you do not know the horse owner or the vet it is hard to guess what type of situation you might be getting yourself into. What if Dobbin's owner is the type that posts on here about never ever wanting anyone but the BO/BM touching their horse?

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by tangledweb View Post
                    What a strange thing to say.

                    It's not really my job to slow down for old people crossing the road, or to pick up lost dogs, or render first aid, or call people if I see their horse got injured, or pick up litter, or call 911 if I see your house is on fire, but there a whole lot of helpful things that are part of not being an ass and are therefore part of everybody's role in being a member of a community.
                    Totally not the same thing. (And it IS your job to slow down for pedestrians in the road.)

                    I would have called the barn owner. It is THEIR job to help, and any vet that NEEDS assistance but shows up without an tech and without making arrangements with the BO or owner to hold the horse is not someone I would want to help either.

                    I'd definitely be contacting the BO to follow up on the horse now. And to give my opinion about not wanting to be put in these situations, and how to handle this in the future since you do not want to be responsible for holding a boarder's horse for the vet.

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                    • #11
                      I would have helped, too. But, I also went down the road with my vet to another client's barn to help hold a fruit loop horse for him because the owner wasn't going to be there and he needed a hand.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by tangledweb View Post
                        What a strange thing to say.

                        It's not really my job to slow down for old people crossing the road, or to pick up lost dogs, or render first aid, or call people if I see their horse got injured, or pick up litter, or call 911 if I see your house is on fire, but there a whole lot of helpful things that are part of not being an ass and are therefore part of everybody's role in being a member of a community.
                        I guess I didn't communicate that properly.

                        The OP was on her way out and somebody she doesn't know rolls up and asks her to hold a strange horse for injections she's not sure if the horse even gets. IMO that's why the barn has an owner or a manager that gets paid to handle these situations. Injections are not a life or death thing and if the vet lived with the horse's owner, they can come back and do them at a later time together.

                        Perhaps if the OP had put in a call to the BO/BM, they could have confirmed the story and then the OP could have chosen if she felt comfortable handling the horse or not. I don't think that that is a bad solution and if I were the horse owner I would fully understand if somebody said no to holding my mare.

                        Yes, it would have been helpful for the OP to hold the horse, but there is no harm in asking the BO/BM to come handle the situation either as it, understandably, made the OP uncomfortable.

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                        • #13
                          If it was a vet I knew and knew the horse was their 'patient', it might be a different story.

                          But at a new barn with a horse I don't even know and a stranger claiming to be a vet? I would call the BO and leave it up to them to handle and apologize to the vet that I really can't hold the horse for him. I would not feel comfortable in the situation described, either. Sure, the vet is likely legit, but what if they aren't? Or what if something happens (horse spooks, whatever, and gets hurt) and I was the one holding them? Not a position I'd want to get stuck in.
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                          • #14
                            Did the vet just give a vaccination or did he do joint injections? While, if I am on my way out, somebody needs a hand for a few minutes? OK. If they want to give a tranq, a local, swab and do joint injections? Not so much- that's more time then I am willing to give new in the barn or not.
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                              #15
                              Originally posted by trubandloki View Post
                              It really is a tough situation to be put in. Horse owners are a weird bunch and what one horse owner has no issue with the next goes off the deep end about. If you do not know the horse owner or the vet it is hard to guess what type of situation you might be getting yourself into. What if Dobbin's owner is the type that posts on here about never ever wanting anyone but the BO/BM touching their horse?
                              This is what I was thinking. Or God forbid something went wrong with the shot or the horse got loose or panicked and injured itself; I don't know his owner at all and have no idea if she's overly protective and/or crazy. I certainly don't want the liability if something were to happen, especially since I didn't have the horse owner's permission to handle her horse.

                              ETA: exactly, analise. We must have cross posted.
                              findeight: I'm NOT an injections expert so don't quote me, but I think he said it was an IV Legend shot. It went in the neck.

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                              • #16
                                Y'all are thinking to much and wadding your panties… with the comparison to helping little old ladies across the street or not.

                                Meh…. I'd help and probably mention it to the HO. IMO, it's not my job to do security and ID checks and such for another HO. But I'll help a vet restrain a horse if he's short handed…. knowing, of course, that I need to take responsibility for my own safety. I do what I can (some restraint, not hard-core stuff with someone else's tough and unknown horse for free). I don't do what I can't: check out vet guy's story or have anything to do with the quality of his vet work.

                                In short, if I'm around and I can help with a job, I will. That's how I was raised. I get skeevy if I see others working and I'm princess-ing it up just watching.
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                                • #17
                                  But OP was not going to watch, she was done and leaving so its a little different. Also depends on what vet was doing, shot takes 5 min, joint injections 30+.
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                                  • #18
                                    I would never handle another person's horse without their permission unless there was an absolute emergency and no one else was around. So even if the guy could prove he was the vet I wouldn't do it. Too much liability. The barn staff or the horse owner needs to hold the horse, or else the horse owner needs to plan ahead and ask someone else to do it.
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                                    • #19
                                      If I knew horse and owner and knew that horse got joint injections, yes. If I didn't know horse/owner, but horse needed treatment for something urgent and life threatening(colic, major injury, etc), I would hold horse/assist vet while getting ahold of BM/BO and horse owner. Joint injections are not treatment that need to be done RIGHT NOW !! I don't think they are worth the risk of handling a horse you don't know without owners knowledge/permission. Applying pressure bandage, starting IV or tubing are worth the risk IMHO.

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                                      • #20
                                        Originally posted by mvp View Post
                                        Meh…. I'd help and probably mention it to the HO. IMO, it's not my job to do security and ID checks and such for another HO. But I'll help a vet restrain a horse if he's short handed…. knowing, of course, that I need to take responsibility for my own safety. I do what I can (some restraint, not hard-core stuff with someone else's tough and unknown horse for free). I don't do what I can't: check out vet guy's story or have anything to do with the quality of his vet work.
                                        Exactly.

                                        And as another poster said, the odds of someone impersonating a vet to come in a give a random horse joint injections... Really?

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