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  • #1

    Is this a dwarf miniature horse?

    http://denver.craigslist.org/grd/4139450766.html
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    No. Regular mini.

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    • #3
      Does look like it somewhat. Head is out of proportion to body, though hair could hide a lot. Big head is also often a nutrition thing, from poor feeding young animals. He needs hooves done, which leads to believing he hasn't had other things done will, like worming regular. Legs appear quite crooked from the front, toes going in various directions, might also be a Dwarfed animal feature.

      He is going to be very small, not much you can do with a 30" Mini, even Driving, when passenger outweighs the equine.

      No, not all Minis look like this. Should not be the "expected" look, when you are out to purchase one.

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        #4
        OK. I just thought the head looked way off and the feet looked funky. So what is the minimum size suggested for driving?

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        • #5
          Check out the time stamp on the photo. Are we sure he's a "baby"?

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            #6
            Originally posted by talkofthetown View Post
            Check out the time stamp on the photo. Are we sure he's a "baby"?
            Maybe somebody is camera-challenged. I know some people who would leave that wrong date stamp on for ever.

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            • #7
              Come on, Pleiad, let me be a mystery sleuth, just this once!!!

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                #8
                Originally posted by talkofthetown View Post
                Come on, Pleiad, let me be a mystery sleuth, just this once!!!
                OK. You are challenged with finding out if this is a baby or a dwarf 9 year old who had his picture taken on New Years Day!

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Pleiad View Post
                  OK. You are challenged with finding out if this is a baby or a dwarf 9 year old who had his picture taken on New Years Day!
                  Shoot. I didn't mean it!

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                  • #10
                    In my opinion, no. He looks to be just a really small class-A type mini and at a young, weird growth stage along with a possible wormy belly. Could really use some good grooming and nutrition but doesn't look dwarf to me. A lot of times those big bellies and fuzzy bodies make the legs look so much shorter than they really are!

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                    • #11
                      The angle of the pic doesn't help either. It would be a much better shot had the camera been down on a level with the critter rather than a 3/4 front shot taken from a 3/4 vertical.
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                      • #12
                        Well, here is a medical explanation, which can be applied for Dwarfism in humans or animals:

                        Disproportionate dwarfism is characterized by one or more body parts being relatively large or small in comparison to those of an average-sized adult, with growth variations in specific areas being apparent. In cases of proportionate dwarfism, the body appears normally proportioned, but is unusually small.

                        So this would explain the large head, compared to the body size, that I mentioned in my other post. Some dwarfing is totally proportionate, so is often less noticeable when looking at an animal. Corgi dogs have dwarf characteristics with the extremely short legs and larger bodies. Some specimens of Dexter cattle, a small breed, show dwarfism instead of just being small. A clue is EXTREMELY short cannon bones, no length to them, on a very small animal. The Mini doesn't show really short cannons, but head is not proportionate appearing in the photos. I mentioned the hair might be part of the distortion, so clipping would show you the truth if head stayed larger with short hair.

                        Most folks who do any driving with Minis, use what appear to be about 36-38" inches to go single. You figure the load he needs to move should be about 80% of his weight or less. If an animal only weighs 200#, then cart and passenger weights can't be very much, even on flat ground. You can pull larger weight if you go with a Pair in front of the vehicle. However any depth to the ground surface, loose sand, adds a LOT of resistance to the wheels, so it is hard to move their loads. We had a 4-H mini who COULD NOT move his slender driver (100# ?) and light cart (60#), when the wheel went into a deep hoofprint in the arena. He really TRIED hard, but I had to give the cart a shove, so he could go forward. I think he was about 35". After that, the Driving kids got to use grass to make a ring for their classes. No more problems.

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                        • #13
                          nah- that's just a common little shetland type
                          as some do look like that when young so not a dwarf

                          a uk common shetty like this one http://www.screechowlsanctuary.co.uk...4/MALTESER.jpg

                          real ones from shetland isles lol
                          http://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=i&rct...84388556481221



                          cute cuddly stay at home ones lol
                          http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:A...-kXMdQ_X9crp_A
                          Last edited by goeslikestink; Nov. 12, 2013, 07:35 PM.

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                          • #14
                            lol am gonna do a critque my horse ha ha look out for the thread ha ha

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                              Originally posted by goeslikestink View Post
                              nah- that's just a common little shetland type
                              as some do look like that when young so not a dwarf

                              a uk common shetty like this one http://www.screechowlsanctuary.co.uk...4/MALTESER.jpg

                              real ones from shetland isles lol
                              http://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=i&rct...84388556481221



                              cute cuddly stay at home ones lol
                              http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:A...-kXMdQ_X9crp_A
                              OOOH! I always think of dwarfs as looking like sort of deformed, really small shetlands. I didn't know there was a shetland mini!
                              Those Muness Shetland Ponies are so cute and round. I want one.

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                                Originally posted by goodhors View Post
                                Well, here is a medical explanation, which can be applied for Dwarfism in humans or animals:

                                Disproportionate dwarfism is characterized by one or more body parts being relatively large or small in comparison to those of an average-sized adult, with growth variations in specific areas being apparent. In cases of proportionate dwarfism, the body appears normally proportioned, but is unusually small.

                                So this would explain the large head, compared to the body size, that I mentioned in my other post. Some dwarfing is totally proportionate, so is often less noticeable when looking at an animal. Corgi dogs have dwarf characteristics with the extremely short legs and larger bodies. Some specimens of Dexter cattle, a small breed, show dwarfism instead of just being small. A clue is EXTREMELY short cannon bones, no length to them, on a very small animal. The Mini doesn't show really short cannons, but head is not proportionate appearing in the photos. I mentioned the hair might be part of the distortion, so clipping would show you the truth if head stayed larger with short hair.

                                Most folks who do any driving with Minis, use what appear to be about 36-38" inches to go single. You figure the load he needs to move should be about 80% of his weight or less. If an animal only weighs 200#, then cart and passenger weights can't be very much, even on flat ground. You can pull larger weight if you go with a Pair in front of the vehicle. However any depth to the ground surface, loose sand, adds a LOT of resistance to the wheels, so it is hard to move their loads. We had a 4-H mini who COULD NOT move his slender driver (100# ?) and light cart (60#), when the wheel went into a deep hoofprint in the arena. He really TRIED hard, but I had to give the cart a shove, so he could go forward. I think he was about 35". After that, the Driving kids got to use grass to make a ring for their classes. No more problems.
                                Thank you for that. My dd wants to try driving someday soon here.

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                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by goeslikestink View Post
                                  lol am gonna do a critque my horse ha ha look out for the thread ha ha
                                  Well he would get lots of cuteness points if nothing else.

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                                  • #18
                                    We have a friend that raises minis and she has some with the dwarf genes so she usually has about 1 dwarf a year. This looks like a regular mini to me. The dwarfs just look different.

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                                    • #19
                                      Calhan, CO, huh? That's where my farrier lives. Too bad he's too busy to go check out this mini for all of us.

                                      Rebecca

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                                        #20
                                        So is a shetland now considered a miniature? I thought they were ponies. When I was a kid we had a whole group of kids who rode shetlands together at shows.

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