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  • #21
    I think the pony sounds like the winner personally. Horse #1 sounds like it's lame and too much horse. Horse 2 sounds like you don't like it. Horse 3 sounds like the best for for OP's skill level and like something she can have fun on without getting scared.

    OP, I am 5'10, 150 and would not hesitate to ride that mare in a horse show. Perfect size for someone getting into the sport. Get a big horse two horses down the road. This mare sounds great for what you need now.

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    • #22
      If you're currently taking lessons and are seeking a schoolmaster, then #1 for now -- but you will always have to monitor his soundness issues. Are they manageable? Will they degenerate as he gets older and/or works more?

      #2 is just out for me. Gaited horses and dressage don't mix well.

      But I'd go for #3. She sounds like one you can have fun with, learn from, and will get you out of almost any situation. Remember, Theodore O'Connor was a pony.

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      • #23
        Originally posted by HungarianHippo View Post
        Be very careful about the "dream horse" concept. When not in a structured training program, Mr. Dream Horse is often Mr. Too Much Horse (who introduces us to his friend, Mr. Ambulance Driver.)
        I speak with sad experience: Hungarian Hippo (and the others making the same point) is absolutely right!!!

        I was given a 17 h. TB/Oldenburg cross with lots of experience eventing. He's a saint in the ring, but it is not only not fun, it is scary, to ride him out on trailrides. Don't do it!!! You are not a good enough rider (nor am I) for the Ferrari of the horse world.

        My horse is now looking for another home, and I'm on the hunt for a 14.2-15 hand hony that is probably very ugly but very sensible. Learn from my mistake!!
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        • #24
          Originally posted by fordtraktor View Post
          I think the pony sounds like the winner personally. Horse #1 sounds like it's lame and too much horse. Horse 2 sounds like you don't like it. Horse 3 sounds like the best for for OP's skill level and like something she can have fun on without getting scared.

          OP, I am 5'10, 150 and would not hesitate to ride that mare in a horse show. Perfect size for someone getting into the sport. Get a big horse two horses down the road. This mare sounds great for what you need now.

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          • #25
            A gaited horse is not good for dressage, but of course neither is an unsound horse. So neither horse for dressage shows - even local ones.

            Sorry - didn't see updated post about pony mare. Pony mare sounds perfect - dressage training will help develop more forward and get her lighteri the bridle as she starts carrying herself more.
            Last edited by Valentina_32926; Nov. 4, 2013, 04:28 PM. Reason: Saw pony mare - horse #3 - option
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            • #26
              Try some arena lessons & a cross country lesson with the pony mare - if she's athletic, ~14H is not going to limit anything you sound likely to jump BUT it will feel "bigger" than a 16H horse stepping over the same jump.

              I agree that #1 could be a problem for you XCountry - if he were sound & something you might lease to buy, I'd feel differently as you could lease & lesson & work with him, then decide about the Buy option ...

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              • #27
                Another vote for the pony mare! Sounds like lots of fun to me. If you are set on getting a bigger "dream horse", I think you should keep looking, #1 could be too much horse, especially if you want to learn cross country at a lower level, slower and steady would be way more enjoyable.

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                • #28
                  The pony.

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                  • #29
                    My very first horse was only 14.2 and she was the best little horse ever. Every time I talk to my mom I joke about wishing I could have my childhood horse back (horse passed away a long time ago). And at the time I regretted her size and wished she was big and flashy (OK, honestly I dreamed of owning Cass Ole, but who didn't?). Now I have big and flashy and really miss little, solid, and sensible.

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                    • #30
                      OK, now that you've added #3, I would say she sounds far and away the best of those options. There's no shame in riding a pony. I'm 5'10" and 32 years old and I ride and jump large ponies all the time. Especially in eventing, no one will even bat an eye.
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                      • #31
                        If horse #1 is too much horse for you to trail ride and ride outside the ring, you should pass. A horse that is detrimental to your confidence is no good, no matter how flashy or how close to your ideal "dream horse" he is. Rideability should be a priority, along with soundness; from your description, it sounds like both of these may be a concern.

                        The pony may not fit your idea of your perfect mount, but she sounds safe, sound and very able to do what you ask and provide a good learning environment for you. Remember, this is a lease and not a purchase- maybe she can be a stepping stone for you, to gain experience on before stepping up to something a bit bigger and stronger. Her size will not interfere with anything you have stated that you want to do.

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                        • #32
                          I'd go with 3. You also have to remember if horde number 1 shows any unevenness at a show even local they can and will buzz you out of the ring and truthfully I don't think this horse is going to hold up to even tadpole if he is already having lameness issues. There is a difference between a horse stepping down because of age and some arthritis that is managed and a horse that is lame to jump or gallop and that can not be managed. You also will want to gallop around cross country, even tadpole once you are comfortable. Horse 2 is gaited and yes there is gaited dressage but if your dream is to show dressage even at local then I don't think you are setting yourself up for success in it going the gaited route. It's really two different worlds still.

                          I love a good pony and I actually looked at buying one if she would have vetted clean. She was 14.1 hands and I am 5'7. I may have been a little long but she was a dream ride. My old barrel horse was also only 14.2 barely but boy he could get the job done and we also did some jumpers. A good pony is worth their weight in gold and can be so much fun.
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                          • #33
                            I was going to say neither but it sounds like you have found a suitable alternative in that Pony.

                            Pony is already packing an adult around in shows so knows the ropes of hauling and competitions and can, no doubt, take a variety of jokes in pace and placement to jumps and still jump anything without retaliation on landing- like bucking you off, running off or both.

                            Besides soundness, #1 gets "hot and bothered" once out on a cc course and that's a problem even over speed bumps.

                            #2 doesn't know anything, has an extra gait acceptable at some area events but is safe. However that's alot of work to teach it what it needs to know after it's set in it's ways without knowing if it even can learn. It's a perfect trail horse, be fair to it and leave it that way.

                            The Pony is perfect, knows what it needs to and is currently competing in a related field. It's not 13h but 14h+. That's a good size for working horses in the real world outside the show venues.

                            Wait until current rider does her last show and take Pony.
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                              #34
                              Thank you all very much. I really appreciate all the great feedback and input.

                              I am going to do more lessons on the pony and, if all goes well for both of us, will talk about leasing her. She really is a cute mare, and has a great attitude. I'm glad for the reminder about "Teddy" and for the input about all the other ponies you all ride. If our lessons teach me that I can help her with her jumping and that she can help me too, then maybe we will make a good pair.

                              BTW I am 5'2" and about as chunky for a human as she is for an equine--so maybe we will look better together than I think. You all almost make me wish our ring had mirrors!

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                              • #35
                                I have another vote for the pony (which is looks like the OP is considering)!

                                If you're only 5'2", you will look fine on a pony...
                                Exibit A: I'm 5'2" and Pony is 13.3h
                                Exibit B: Pony is 14.3h

                                And I may be biased, but I love my ponies. They are like little dressage sports cars.

                                ...And as an added bonus, if you ever do decide to make the leap to horse/pony ownership... Economically sized horses tend to be more economically priced.

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                                • #36
                                  Ponies aren't short, they're Fun-sized!

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                                  • #37
                                    5'2? You NEVER need a giant horse! Ponies are so much more fun to ride, really. As I said, I am 5'10 in my stocking feet and I have sworn off horses over 16 hands. I like sportscars, I refuse to ride the equine equivalent of a tractor trailer around a jump course (and to have to pay more for the honor, which you inevitably do -- on the purchase price and in vet bills, as big horses tend to be hard on themselves). I prefer the Ferrari.

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                                    • #38
                                      It sounds like you are going to give the pony mare a try, so great!!! From what you have written, it sounds like you two may be an awesome match.

                                      My mare ended up being around 14 hands with a medium build (got her when she was 3 and expected her to get taller/bigger through the barrel... what can you do ). I AM tall for her as my feet hang below her belly a bit, but in all seriousness, I would not trade her for anything. She is fun, sporty, and is somehow able to carry my heavy after-baby self with no issue. IMO never, ever continue riding a horse that has shown that they are too much for you. Confidence is easy to lose and really hard (impossible for some people) to get back.

                                      I get the raised eyebrows when people see me get my mare out, but as soon as we get working, those looks quickly change to envy. We work great together!

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                                      • #39
                                        If I could comfortably ride ponies, I so would. Unfortunately my height is in my torso so its hard for them to balance with me over fences if I get even the slightest bit off. I'm 5'9". But for dressage, sure!!! Ponies are so much fun.

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                                        • #40
                                          Pony sounds like she may be best-suited for what you want to do.

                                          But I have to chime in to say:
                                          Do Not rule out a gaited horse.
                                          They can & will trot.
                                          DH evented (& schooled to Training) a TWH - showed BNH.
                                          Admittedly, horse did not have great gait, but he did trot.

                                          So if Horse #3 does not work out, give Horse #2 a try
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