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  • #41
    I rode and showed the circuit some as a junior. I would consider my family solid middle class. My parents splurged a bit and spent a fairly substantial amount (for us) on an excellent horse. However I catch rode for my trainer, was feeding/cleaning/grooming for the rest of the barn, and braiding in my spare time to be able to afford to show. I was at the show grounds from 3am-8pm. I was usually able to earn enough money to pay for the show.

    Now that I'm an adult, I have no desire to show the circuit anymore (burnout!) but it can be done on a budget. You do, however, have to work your butt off for it!
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    • #42
      Thanks staceymc, GallopGirl, et al.! It's so encouraging to see examples of real people with real careers who can make riding & showing work alongside a non-horsey career. I'm in a graduate program and will have to make career choices soon, and hope to meld my professional goals with my riding goals. Asking about how horses can fit in is a little odd at an info panel/informational interview, so I appreciate COTHers for providing examples!

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      • #43
        So what does an average A show cost? I guess you have to factor in travel, hotel, groomer/braider, show fees, etc. Aren't you there for multiple days? I only did local ETI shows, but I had one friend in college who was on the A circuit. Her father was a doctor and that was 25 years ago.
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        • #44
          Some have mentioned IT jobs, so I just want to add a couple of points... There are various aspects of IT jobs, but not all pay well. For example, desktop support, or first line support (the ones that answer the ones when you call) don't pay well. The ones that pay well are senior positions in server, software development, database, or network. You need to be able to think outside of the box, be able to handle complex systems, and be able to "communicate" with clients. Those who have the right kind of aptitude can make very decent money in this field.

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          • #45
            I could not afford to ride once I was out of school so I worked my tail off put myself through graduate school at night so I could finally afford to do it when I hit my early 30's. There are shortcuts to hard work.

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            • #46
              I'm in marketing, and my job is remote so I work from home with uber flexible hours. I've worked my way up the ladder over the years, and my income has grown enough that now I have my horse in full training and can afford to go to one "A" rated show per month during the show season, plus the world championships (~3x the cost of the other shows).

              In the past when I made less, I did more things myself. I boarded at self care facilities, worked my own horse 5-6 days a week, cleaned stalls - anything to make sure I could still show. I showed on my own, maybe paying a trainer here and there to help me on the rail during warmups and taking a few lessons now and then. I had to save up vacation days and trade hours with coworkers to make the show schedule doable, and went to more local weekend-only shows vs. the week long affairs that are several states away.

              It's taken me almost 20 years in my field to get to this point. So my advice is to pick a career with upward mobility and stick to it, work hard both at work and at the barn, and when you're in your 40's you'll be living your dream life. It won't happen before then unless you find a wealthy husband.

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              • #47
                The ones I know who do it are either teens with comfortably-off supportive parents, older women who are financially set, from either their own careers or well-off husbands, professional riders who get paid by well-to-do owners, or, rarely, young riders who are so skilled somebody will sponsor them.

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                • #48
                  Originally posted by Malda View Post
                  So what does an average A show cost? I guess you have to factor in travel, hotel, groomer/braider, show fees, etc. Aren't you there for multiple days? I only did local ETI shows, but I had one friend in college who was on the A circuit. Her father was a doctor and that was 25 years ago.
                  Depends - anywhere from $1-5k+ a week, I'd say. 1k will get you a week at a nice show facility, 5k is in the realm of SM Masters. Indoors, depending on how far away you are can run you upwards of 10k for a week of showing.

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                  • #49
                    Originally posted by BabyGreen View Post
                    The ones I know who do it are either teens with comfortably-off supportive parents, older women who are financially set, from either their own careers or well-off husbands, professional riders who get paid by well-to-do owners, or, rarely, young riders who are so skilled somebody will sponsor them.
                    My experience too. I don't show, but I've boarded at a show barn, and there have been people who show at other barns too (H/J at show barn, Eventing and Dressage at the non-show barns). For the most part in my experience it was teens with supportive parents - the teens worked very hard after school and on weekenbds, but in my day so did I, only I worked for my university tuition, not horse training and shows Priorities, eh (well, most if not all of the show teens I know have/had a college fund).
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                    • #50
                      I'm competing at CDIs and national level dressage shows so here's my take on it.

                      The boring part, get a good job that pays well and is flexible don't be afraid to think outside the box with going for other jobs either. 4 years ago I was assistant trainer at a large racing stable and having the skills to manage the stable and staff allowed me to step into my management role where I am now. My job only entails me being at work from 5am - 9am and then the rest of the time I am on call and my phone doesn't leave my side until 5pm. Frustrating some days when things go wrong and I have to go back into work to fix them but its a rare problem that requires my actual presence on the road. When I need to go away for big shows I have it organized well in advance for someone to cover me in the mornings to deal with minor things and I'm on call if needed. I don't have sick or holiday pay but I am on a fixed salary.

                      My husband worked hard and bought himself 2 investment properties. This has enabled us to use the equity in those to get what we need. I have a very nice youngster who cost a fair chunk of money, however he was half his original price due to the owners money crisis. My other horses were all very cheap and needed TLC or just green under saddle so it's been time and patience to get them.

                      When we realized we needed a bigger horse truck, we bought a good solid truck with the basics and have gone from there. It's now nearly completely refurbished and looks like one of those fancy $150,000 plus trucks and it's cost us under $25,000 to buy and fix it up so it looks very fancy.

                      Every pay week we put money away for big competitions. I only got home from Nationals yesterday and I was counting out coins to buy breakfast this morning! But by picking and choosing the major shows throughout the year I've been able to budget for everything. Even though the 'show account' gets a thorough clean out after major shows the money always goes back into it slowly and before you know it it's at what it was before.

                      All my gear and clothes are bargain buys or have been out on layby except for my new saddle. My MIL got a saddle from the same company that I wanted one from so they did us a very good deal and we saved nerly $1000 off it all. It pays to barter!

                      All feed and hay is purchased in bulk. Again we have a separate account and x amount of money goes into it every pay so it's not a shock when we do run out.

                      On the outside we probably look fairly well off but in reality we have just had to work smarter, not harder! It's taken many years but we are finally slowly ticking goals and big projects off.

                      Major shows for me can cost up to $2000 including entries, stabling, camping (always sleep in the truck) and petrol to get there. We take our own food which cuts back in costs majorly! I nearly died of shock on the weekend when I paid $25 for 2 burgers and 2 cups of coffee. Show food is expensive!

                      So things can be done on a budget. You just have to step back from the I want everything now, and plans things thoroughly.
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                      • #51
                        Originally posted by twotrudoc View Post
                        Melody1, you forgot to mention that you also braid and groom at shows you go to I can see where if someone didn't really know you or the backstory might assume you were a rich kid jetting back and forth across the country to go play at shows with your horsey and fancy pants trainer. I know from Tracy and Patience how hard you work, and that hard work shows.
                        Thanks E! I appreciate the attestation of my character

                        I do braid and groom, and I suppose I did forget to mention that. That's a HUGE supplement to my show budget. At each show I attend, I usually braid between 3-10 horses per day in addition to my own, depending on my show schedule, of course. That pays for almost all of my show fees and often most travel expenses as well.

                        I usually camp in a stall as well, or I stay in a trailer on the grounds. The stall camping is not nearly as rough as it may sound! Between a cozy sleeping bag, floor mat, cot, space heater, table, lamp, and coolers hung on the walls, it's actually quite comfortable. The show grounds almost always have nice shower facilities, or I visit friends' hotel rooms. Rather than spending $200/night for a hotel, I spend that much for the entire week, AND I'm there in case of emergency and to do night checks, and my travel time is eliminated which allows for just a little bit more sleep when the braiding is finished!

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                        • #52
                          Flame suit zipped.

                          There are many people on the big circuits who can afford to be there. Those of you who can are either blessed with a very well paying job, wealthy spouse, or are financially savvy, cutting costs everywhere they can to be able to go. They understand that if you want to go to the horse show AND stay in the black, you can't have the __________ you wanted. Sacrifice and trade-offs.... budgeting!

                          There are many who can't afford to be there, but are anyway. I can't tell you how many people I know who openly complain about their debt, how they can't afford this or that (ie. vet bills, farrier, other essential horse care) and how they are $__X__ in debt through credit cards. Yet, they go weekend after weekend to clinics, horse shows, take extra lessons, travel South for show weekends, etc. It's the entitled attitude and the misconception that, because they want it "so badly," they will deal with the debts later and go get what they want, because it all builds towards an end goal that they believe defines them. I'm reminded of a quote: "Determination, not desire, determines your destiny." To be successful in both the nitty gritty of life and the horse world, the average person must have self control and be realistic. They have to be capable of saying no and making sacrifices in other areas of their life - they skipped the vacation, they don't drive a new car, they look for sales, they don't splurge/spoil themselves with the new bridle/whatever, they price match at the grocery store, etc.

                          Let's be completely honest here (zips flame suit up tighter): The general population is entitled with very little self control when it comes to finances. I think the country's debt speaks for itself there. I read an article not long ago about Generation X. Part of it was focused on how we are so easily fooled that our peers have the best life, tons of money, are very successful, etc... all because it's plastered on Facebook or other social media. It was an incredibley interesting read and very candid. As a Generation X, I appreciated it opening my eyes.

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