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  • SLC...my Dad always told me there was one in every crowd. I guess he was right.

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    • Kudos to you GiantPony for handling SLC's rude, snotty and derogatory posts with such tact, diplomacy and "aplomb." You are a credit to your parents who obviously taught you to be courteous, kind and considerate.

      I hope that this new barn will work with/for you. Sounds like a better match.

      If you're ever in the west Georgia area, do bring your draft around. I'll be getting an 18hh Percheron mare in a month to join my App mare and you can come play in our new trail club. No snobs, bratty kids or DQs to deal with. Just us average folks who love anything on four hooves that whinnies.

      Ride on!!!
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      • Ah, Giantpony, you probably are better off if they are such jerks (management included!). You don't want to lower yourself to their level, but it must have been tempting to say, "Plow horse? How dare you speak so of your Dumblood's cousin?" or was she riding a TB?!? Darn, another good comeback blown out of the water.

        Best of luck in finding a new, more congenial place.

        As for slc, consider the source. And of COURSE, she stares at the neck. She just defined what kind of people do, and we were aware of that......

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        • Giantpony, you seem like a very sensible person. Hopefully the promising barn turns out to be a keeper.

          SLC, I hesitate to get into a brain-off here, but...although your logic is sound, when one thinks back to many of your posts it seems as if you often *don't* see the whole picture, you tend to simply attack the original poster. There is a difference between a) trying to be fairminded when reading a post and b) simply assuming that person is ignorant/selfish/immature/wrong/whatever and it is in fact the other person involved, who is the unheard-from subject of the post, who is to be pitied/sympathised with/whatever.

          Yes, there are two, three or sometimes one hundred different sides to every story. That doesn't mean that whoever is telling the version you hear is a liar or exaggerating. As giantpony has very carefully explained several times, she was treated in a way which not only angered her, but insulted her and got her kicked out of her barn! That's pretty serious stuff, and if the truth was totally different- that she ran over the BO's dog on purpose and stole all of the grain- and someone else came on here and gave us that evidence, well, then there would be cause to doubt the original story. But in the absence of anything like that, when one reads a post from a reasonable-sounding person with a problem, it isn't going to let loose the plague or cause the stock market to crash to give that person a little sympathy and support- and the benefit of the doubt.

          Sheesh. Grow up.

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          • <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by CuriousGeorge:
            "Evolutionarily" really is a word. Not like "indepthly". "Indepthly" is only a word that can be used on internet bbs to describe how one has studied conformation. Glad to clarify for you.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

            And most people who study it "indepthly" have also studied it "ineptly."



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            • Giantpony, Count your blessings for leaving. I finally got around to reading the whole thread and found when you read your boarding contract. GOOD ! I own a facility and have for the last 20 years. I have boarders that have been with me as long as 14 years. Dealing with people does get challenging at times, everyone comes with their own individual "attitude baggage" but that doesnot give this rider the right to be a "Water Retaining Sea Cow" . I hope when the BO/BM realizes that the barn is empty except for that one rider ( all others will probably be turned off by the partiality) That maybe they made a BIG MISTAKE. They should realize that it is better to cater to group as a whole than to let the whole cater to one(no matter how much they pad that wallet) Good Luck !!

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              • I am so outraged by the initial story here I cannot speak. Who in the H*** do they think they are? PLOWHORSE???????
                Yet another reason I stick with eventers. eeeek When I calm down I will read this whole thread!

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                • <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by giantpony:
                  before she had to run off to work, school, a therapy appointment,<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

                  Great post Giant. You have hit the nail on the head. Once again, it comes down to common courtesy- you were there first, and you have the written boarding agreement showing that you were MORE than fair in saying to her "I'll be out in 10 minutes if you need the ring to yourself." Therapy appointment, indeed

                  Personally? I'd highlight the boarding contract and have my attorney send it to her-especially if you have a friend who'd just write up something to scare the crap out of the BO. How dare this woman actually buy into jumperqueen's tantrum

                  And SLC? You are a piece of work on this one. Those ones that you say you just stay away from? I bet YOU are that person. No wonder why you don't have to share an arena with anyone

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                  • <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by giantpony:



                    Apparently, she didnt like this idea. She stomped out of the arena, got the barn manager and came back. The barn manager, to my horror, came and talked to me, "you know this rider has a show on the weekend and needs to practise, she really needs the whole arena, you're not practising for any shows or doing anything important, you need to leave, maybe ride in the outdoor ring".

                    I was stunned. #1, I was in there FIRST. #2, since when does one person become more important than another. #3, I was trying to be reasonable and share (Ive shown h/j before, I can manage to stay out of their way!) #4, how can anyone have the nerve to decide whether what Im doing is important or not??

                    I told her, "I'll be done in about 10 minutes, she's welcome to share with me during that time, or if she'd rather have it to herself I'll only be 10 minutes." Maybe this was rude?

                    The end... I found an "eviction" notice on my stall door this morning, mostly saying that since Im not willing to "be a team player", Im no longer welcome here. Team player, what the heck?!

                    I tried talking to the barn manager and she said her hands are tied in this matter and agrees the other rider had the "Right of way".

                    Has anyone ever heard of anything like this before?? Am I missing something?? (I never once raised my voice or said anything nasty, outside my head, that is!)

                    I guess I'll find a new facility... I dont want to stay where there is this insanity... but I dont really "get" the situation either.

                    HELP?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>


                    This is just so ridiculous. I think you are better off leaving. If they are going to be so petty and silly, they aren't worthy of your hard earned money.
                    The more I get back into the Horses, the more downright stupid stuff I see and hear.
                    Good Luck.

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                    • Giantpony, you inspire me to be a better person.

                      SLC, you don't.

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                      • Giantpony: I hope you find a new barn and one with a more friendlier atmosphere. While pulling my horse out of the driveway, I would highlight that area of the boarding contract you mentioned and hand it right over to the BM, the snotty girl, and the BO. Just like you mentioned. Leave them thinking about that!

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                        • Wow, it was just this type of idiocy on the part of people running at jumps (by no means can what she was doing be considered as schooling over fences) that sent my poor little DQ self to a western barn (because they had this HUGE ring and there were NO JUMPS!!
                          Let's just say that I discovered other reasons why that was not one of my better decisions (and it has nothing to do with western vs english riding).
                          My current BO tries periodically to recondition me to be rational about people jumping if I'm riding in the ring, but it's a hard row for her to hoe, and there's so much else to work on!

                          When I was a working student, we always had to call out when we were about to enter the indoor, and to this day, I even speak up when I'm approaching our outdoor ring, because the horses can hear something coming before they can see who it is. (Though I don't expect others to do that - the deer in the woods don't usually call out, either)

                          My first thought was that this person was probably aiming for you, hoping to force you to give up and leave. After six pages, I haven't changed my mind about that.

                          Hope you have good luck finding another boarding situation where the people aren't so full of ...um...themselves.
                          Only one cat - must not be totally crazy yet!

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                          • canterlope....you put it perfectly

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                            • I have definitely learned to NOT drink or eat anything while reading this thread.

                              Wish I was as good at thinking of comebacks like some of you are! I'm slow in that respect.

                              GP... you are handling this with real grace! In the end, you'll be better off... as will your drafty.

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                              • As repeated by other posters, I'm glad you are leaving that place. If they had didn't ask you to leave, I would have recommended it to ya! There are far better places to board at where there are no bitchy riders.

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                                • I had a lesson tonight and I asked my trainer what she'd say if I told her that someone else was in the indoor, I needed to get ready for an important show and I wanted her to make them leave.

                                  She didn't miss a beat, she said "I'd tell you to build your own damn indoor."



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                                  • GiantPony, welcome to the elite clique of horsepeople who have been evicted for "failure to obey imaginary rules."
                                    I hate to say it, but it happened to me too. In my case, a rule was posted that no one was allowed to jump without a trainer present. So one day I was riding, wanted to jump, and asked A trainer if she would watch me. Sure, no problem. BO storms in the arena and proceeds to rip me a new one for jumping without MY trainer present. I say I had asked the other trainer to watch me. BO asked other trainer if that was true. Other trainer said, "NO." So I get reamed some more...all in front of a family that was waiting to try a pony the BO had for sale. At the end of her tirade, the BO told me I was to stand in the center of the arena while her customers tried the pony. Being an idiot 16 y/o, I did. I stood there for 20 minutes until they were done. BO said, "Okay, you can trot your horse around once to warm up, then jump that crossrail." I did. BO said, "Now you can leave the ring." Got a call from my trainer that night telling me the BO wanted me gone, yesterday.

                                    What's REALLY sick is that this BO is also an "A" circuit trainer, sort of a local BNT, AND an "R" judge. Up until that point, she had been generally pleasant to me.

                                    Point is, *I* was a paying boarder, too. I had every right to be where I was and, per the WRITTEN RULES, doing what I was doing. But someone needed to be crucified that day, and I was it. People are just really, really sick.

                                    In your case, I think it would be great to make copies of that blurb from your boarding agreement, and hang them in several conspicuous places...including the arena wall AND the psychobitch rider's horse's stall. You know. Just so everyone is REAL clear who broke the rules.

                                    I'm sorry you had to go through this. I know how maddening it is. But trust me when I say you WILL be better off elsewhere! I certainly was.

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                                    • I feel very lucky when I read the stories that come up on this board.

                                      I hope the family that was buying that pony from the facist barn owner at least noticed how she treated you! Good grief.

                                      It must be awful for you Giantpony to be at that barn now with all those bad feelings. Hope you find someplace better soon. It sounds like a very bad place to be.

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                                      • Good luck Giantpony!! It sounds like you'll be at a much better match!!

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                                        • Giantpony - I'm sorry you were treated so rudely and unfairly by these people. I hope you and your horse find the barn of your dreams soon.
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