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  • #21
    From the CDC's 2013 Threat Report....re: antibiotics in our food supply. It is a huge problem. This is not propaganda, Bluey, this is a very real and dangerous practice.

    http://www.cdc.gov/drugresistance/th...08.pdf#page=36

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    • #22
      Originally posted by LauraKY View Post
      Eight percent of the antibiotics used in this country are given to livestock. It is a HUGE problem.
      Laura meant to write EIGHTY percernt of antibiotics used in this country are given to livestock. (And most of it is fed to them to increase growth, not to treat actual disease.)
      If you are allergic to a thing, it is best not to put that thing in your mouth, particularly if the thing is cats. - Lemony Snicket

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      • #23
        Originally posted by LauraKY View Post
        Bluey you are dead wrong about antibiotic use in animals.

        From the CDC:



        http://www.cdc.gov/narms/faq.html

        Eight percent of the antibiotics used in this country are given to livestock. It is a HUGE problem.
        That is a battle scientist keep bringing up, because if you read the studies, the most resistance is found in antibiotics used in HUMAN hospitals.

        The majority of the antibiotics used in animals are not used in humans, because many of those are, like Rumensin and Bovatec and such, the most used ones, not generally used in human medicine.

        I still say, resistance is there because that is the way bugs work.
        Yes, ANY overuse and misuse will cause resistances quicker, if used in humans and animals.

        Sure, you can cite some cases like you do there, but the latest studies are showing HOSPITALS is where most resistant antibiotics of those that humans use are found.

        Didn't you read the link in my post, trying to put this topic in the proper perspective?

        ---"Right now, the most acute problem is in hospitals," said Tom Frieden, the CDC's director, in a conference call with reporters. "The most resistant organisms in hospitals are emerging in those settings because of poor anti-microbial stewardship among humans."---

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        • #24
          Originally posted by LauraKY View Post
          From the CDC's 2013 Threat Report....re: antibiotics in our food supply. It is a huge problem. This is not propaganda, Bluey, this is a very real and dangerous practice.

          http://www.cdc.gov/drugresistance/th...08.pdf#page=36
          My article quoted the Director of the CDC, saying that HUMAN use in hospitals is the most worrisome, that was my point.
          Perspective is our friend, read it again.

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          • #25
            Laura and Bluey - know you have a pathological need to argue with each other regardless of topic, but please take it elsewhere.

            OP, echoing those who are telling you to NOT use superglue. It is not the same as medical-grade surgical glue.

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            • #26
              One morning, after a bad thunderstorm, we found a mare by the fence, her filly on the other side, with a gash on her forearm and up into her shoulder.

              The vet said it was maybe too late to sew her up and that in that place the stitches probably would not hold that well on a very active foal.

              So, he washed it very good and told us to just wash it every day with just water from the hose for a few minutes and keep watching it.
              If it got to dry or drained too much, or looked not to be healing well or was getting infected, then we would change treatment.

              The filly healed just fine, not a scar left there.

              So, sometimes that works well, but I would want a vet to see it, to be sure that is the best, for that cut, on that horse.

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              • #27
                You could use your phone and take a picture and email it to the vets, so they have a better idea of what you are dealing with. Even better a short video.
                i have used an online vet (small animal) for $40 dollars to check out whether turkey baby food had enough garlic/onions flavoring to make my sick cat worse.

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                • #28
                  Originally posted by Mara View Post
                  Laura and Bluey - know you have a pathological need to argue with each other regardless of topic, but please take it elsewhere.

                  OP, echoing those who are telling you to NOT use superglue. It is not the same as medical-grade surgical glue.
                  Are you serious?
                  I have responded to others with that same statement, no need to see ghost where there are none.
                  THAT was a totally unnecessary comment.

                  Yes on the glue, don't use just any out there, use only what the vet tells you to use.

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                  • #29
                    Originally posted by Bluey View Post
                    Are you serious?
                    I have responded to others with that same statement, no need to see ghost where there are none.
                    THAT was a totally unnecessary comment.

                    Yes on the glue, don't use just any out there, use only what the vet tells you to use.
                    I'm not taking sides - just when y'all start arguing it does sometimes, uh, go on and on.

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                    • #30
                      Originally posted by Highflyer View Post
                      There's not a vet you could haul out to? Your regular vet doesn't make any arrangements for this kind of situation? What if you had a horse with a broken leg or severe colic?
                      Yes, this. No veterinary hospital to haul to?
                      America dialed 911. Donald Trump answered the phone.

                      Stop pumping money into colleges and start getting ready to earn money in the projected tradesman shortage of 2024. Make Trades Great Again!

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                      • #31
                        I fired my vet when he went on vacation for a week with no back-up. I'm lucky enough to have a clinic now with 6 vets. Someone is always on call.

                        Yeah, it was 80%. That needs to go on another thread though. I really don't have a pathological need to argue, just one to correct misinformation, but this isn't the thread. I'm sure the opportunity will arise on Off Topic.

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                        • #32
                          I would just follow the vet's advice. See if you can send a picture of the wound to the vet if you feel it's deep and worrisome. Perhaps that would help. If you are still nervous, haul the horse to another vet tomorrow. If it seems to be doing fine with the first vet's advice, watch it carefully for swelling and discharge. Report any changes to the vet. Disregard the remedies mentioned here. No one here has the ability to provide actual care for your horse because we cannot see the wound nor do we know anything about the horse's history. Plus, we aren't vets. That's the big one.
                          “Pray, hope, and don't worry.”

                          St. Padre Pio

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                          • #33
                            Can you ship in somewhere for evaluation and sutures if needed?

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                            • #34
                              Just beware, because swelling, infection and high fever can come up FAST. I had this happen once and a horse go down from a puncture wound we couldn't even see...until it blew up as big as a baseball in a few hours' time.
                              America dialed 911. Donald Trump answered the phone.

                              Stop pumping money into colleges and start getting ready to earn money in the projected tradesman shortage of 2024. Make Trades Great Again!

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                              • #35
                                If you're at all concerned about infection, start making a practice in the morning to take the mare's temp. Take it first thing in the morning, each morning, and write it down for yourself. Don't take it at any other time of the day - or if you do, realize that it will generally be higher then and adjust your expectations accordingly.

                                Good luck!
                                If you are allergic to a thing, it is best not to put that thing in your mouth, particularly if the thing is cats. - Lemony Snicket

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                                • #36
                                  I will echo the take pic with cell phone and send it to whatever vet will take it. My very recent experience with a nasty wound was cold hose 2x a day, then once a day then every other day until the wound was closed.
                                  I used diaper cream underneath the wound to keep the skin from burning from the oozing from the wound.
                                  I used nitrofurazine (sp) which was a bugger to put on, then switched to a wound spray and wound powder.
                                  Flies were still out when the wound happened so I applied 'swat' around the area but not on the wound.

                                  One idea I have seen that might work to help protect a neck wound from flies is panty hose. If the leg isn't big enough the 'panty part' should be.

                                  take pictures anyway so you can see progress.

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                                  • #37
                                    Originally posted by colorfan View Post
                                    I will echo the take pic with cell phone and send it to whatever vet will take it. My very recent experience with a nasty wound was cold hose 2x a day, then once a day then every other day until the wound was closed.
                                    I used diaper cream underneath the wound to keep the skin from burning from the oozing from the wound.
                                    I used nitrofurazine (sp) which was a bugger to put on, then switched to a wound spray and wound powder.
                                    Flies were still out when the wound happened so I applied 'swat' around the area but not on the wound.

                                    One idea I have seen that might work to help protect a neck wound from flies is panty hose. If the leg isn't big enough the 'panty part' should be.

                                    take pictures anyway so you can see progress.
                                    Yes, taking pictures will really help you see where you have been and how you are coming along and help your vet, if you ever get one to see her.

                                    One reason we want our vets to see even little things is that, in our experience, it is better to have them look and all go well, or not have them be aware we have a problem and it become an emergency and then have to regret our poor judgment causing the horse distress.

                                    One of the sad jokes vets have is "that is one of those clients that finally calls me on his sick cow when is dead".

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                                    • #38
                                      One of the best quick treatments, not expensive and does not work against any vet therapy is the cold water AND Pink Eye Powder. It no longer has chloramphenicol in it (I am still looking to see if any old time tack rooms have it at auction) but the new powder with biotics in it is safe enough for an eye and yet will protect the wound and surrounding tissue and helps resist proud flesh

                                      There used to be a product called cut heal however I would not use it. What it actually does is creates an irritant and reaction from the body to it SWELLS the surrounding tissue thereby closing the wound.
                                      I have pink eye powder in the glove compartment of every vehicles and it is in numerous places around the property for immediate access.
                                      The Elephant in the room

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                                      • #39
                                        I would definitely be flushing the wound, but I would use sterile saline.

                                        I have to say though, if you can't have confidence in your vet, it's time for a new vet.

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                                        • #40
                                          Originally posted by crosscreeksh View Post
                                          An old vet's remedy we use...Clean the wound...spray generously with mild iodine...pack the wound with hydrated lime. (Like you get to dry your horse's pee spots.) Some may scoff at this treatment, but I have references right here on COTH who can verify that it works....as well as 40+ years of experience. The combination of iodine and lime does two things...it forms a crust to keep bugs and more dirt out and changes the pH of the wound so infection doesn't develop.
                                          Do this once a day and the would will heal without a scar.
                                          Good grief-don't even think of it.

                                          Clean the wound-betadine solution or chlorhexadine solution- Use something like silverdyne ointment.get some SMZ's into her. 1 tab for every 100 lbs minimum.
                                          Some riders change their horse, they change their saddle, they change their teacher; they never change themselves.

                                          Remember the horse does all the work, we just sit there and look pretty.

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