• Welcome to the Chronicle Forums.
    Please complete your profile. The forums and the rest of www.chronofhorse.com has single sign-in, so your log in information for one will automatically work for the other. Disclaimer: The opinions expressed here are the views of the individual and do not necessarily reflect the views and opinions of The Chronicle of the Horse.

Announcement

Collapse

Forum rules and no-advertising policy

As a participant on this forum, it is your responsibility to know and follow our rules. Please read this message in its entirety.

Board Rules

1. You’re responsible for what you say.
As outlined in Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act, The Chronicle of the Horse and its affiliates, as well Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd., the developers of vBulletin, are not legally responsible for statements made in the forums.

This is a public forum viewed by a wide spectrum of people, so please be mindful of what you say and who might be reading it—details of personal disputes are likely better handled privately. While posters are legally responsible for their statements, the moderators may in their discretion remove or edit posts that violate these rules. Users have the ability to modify or delete their own messages after posting, but administrators generally will not delete posts, threads or accounts upon request.

Outright inflammatory, vulgar, harassing, malicious or otherwise inappropriate statements and criminal charges unsubstantiated by a reputable news source or legal documentation will not be tolerated and will be dealt with at the discretion of the moderators.

Credible threats of suicide will be reported to the police along with identifying user information at our disposal, in addition to referring the user to suicide helpline resources such as 1-800-SUICIDE or 1-800-273-TALK.

2. Conversations in horse-related forums should be horse-related.
The forums are a wonderful source of information and support for members of the horse community. While it’s understandably tempting to share information or search for input on other topics upon which members might have a similar level of knowledge, members must maintain the focus on horses.

3. Keep conversations productive, on topic and civil.
Discussion and disagreement are inevitable and encouraged; personal insults, diatribes and sniping comments are unproductive and unacceptable. Whether a subject is light-hearted or serious, keep posts focused on the current topic and of general interest to other participants of that thread. Utilize the private message feature or personal email where appropriate to address side topics or personal issues not related to the topic at large.

4. No advertising in the discussion forums.
Posts in the discussion forums directly or indirectly advertising horses, jobs, items or services for sale or wanted will be removed at the discretion of the moderators. Use of the private messaging feature or email addresses obtained through users’ profiles for unsolicited advertising is not permitted.

Company representatives may participate in discussions and answer questions about their products or services, or suggest their products on recent threads if they fulfill the criteria of a query. False "testimonials" provided by company affiliates posing as general consumers are not appropriate, and self-promotion of sales, ad campaigns, etc. through the discussion forums is not allowed.

Paid advertising is available on our classifieds site and through the purchase of banner ads. The tightly monitored Giveaways forum permits free listings of genuinely free horses and items available or wanted (on a limited basis). Items offered for trade are not allowed.

Advertising Policy Specifics
When in doubt of whether something you want to post constitutes advertising, please contact a moderator privately in advance for further clarification. Refer to the following points for general guidelines:

Horses – Only general discussion about the buying, leasing, selling and pricing of horses is permitted. If the post contains, or links to, the type of specific information typically found in a sales or wanted ad, and it’s related to a horse for sale, regardless of who’s selling it, it doesn’t belong in the discussion forums.

Stallions – Board members may ask for suggestions on breeding stallion recommendations. Stallion owners may reply to such queries by suggesting their own stallions, only if their horse fits the specific criteria of the original poster. Excessive promotion of a stallion by its owner or related parties is not permitted and will be addressed at the discretion of the moderators.

Services – Members may use the forums to ask for general recommendations of trainers, barns, shippers, farriers, etc., and other members may answer those requests by suggesting themselves or their company, if their services fulfill the specific criteria of the original post. Members may not solicit other members for business if it is not in response to a direct, genuine query.

Products – While members may ask for general opinions and suggestions on equipment, trailers, trucks, etc., they may not list the specific attributes for which they are in the market, as such posts serve as wanted ads.

Event Announcements – Members may post one notification of an upcoming event that may be of interest to fellow members, if the original poster does not benefit financially from the event. Such threads may not be “bumped” excessively. Premium members may post their own notices in the Event Announcements forum.

Charities/Rescues – Announcements for charitable or fundraising events can only be made for 501(c)(3) tax-exempt organizations. Special exceptions may be made, at the moderators’ discretion and direction, for board-related events or fundraising activities in extraordinary circumstances.

Occasional posts regarding horses available for adoption through IRS-registered horse rescue or placement programs are permitted in the appropriate forums, but these threads may be limited at the discretion of the moderators. Individuals may not advertise or make announcements for horses in need of rescue, placement or adoption unless the horse is available through a recognized rescue or placement agency or government-run entity or the thread fits the criteria for and is located in the Giveaways forum.

5. Do not post copyrighted photographs unless you have purchased that photo and have permission to do so.

6. Respect other members.
As members are often passionate about their beliefs and intentions can easily be misinterpreted in this type of environment, try to explore or resolve the inevitable disagreements that arise in the course of threads calmly and rationally.

If you see a post that you feel violates the rules of the board, please click the “alert” button (exclamation point inside of a triangle) in the bottom left corner of the post, which will alert ONLY the moderators to the post in question. They will then take whatever action, or no action, as deemed appropriate for the situation at their discretion. Do not air grievances regarding other posters or the moderators in the discussion forums.

Please be advised that adding another user to your “Ignore” list via your User Control Panel can be a useful tactic, which blocks posts and private messages by members whose commentary you’d rather avoid reading.

7. We have the right to reproduce statements made in the forums.
The Chronicle of the Horse may copy, quote, link to or otherwise reproduce posts, or portions of posts, in print or online for advertising or editorial purposes, if attributed to their original authors, and by posting in this forum, you hereby grant to The Chronicle of the Horse a perpetual, non-exclusive license under copyright and other rights, to do so.

8. We reserve the right to enforce and amend the rules.
The moderators may delete, edit, move or close any post or thread at any time, or refrain from doing any of the foregoing, in their discretion, and may suspend or revoke a user’s membership privileges at any time to maintain adherence to the rules and the general spirit of the forum. These rules may be amended at any time to address the current needs of the board.

Please see our full Terms of Service and Privacy Policy for more information.

Thanks for being a part of the COTH forums!

(Revised 2/8/18)
See more
See less

how do you describe high end tack?

Collapse
X
  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts

  • how do you describe high end tack?

    Im looking for some help from my fellow horse people.

    When then you think of high end tack, what descriptive words come to mind?

    I think buttery soft, beautiful, drool worthy. But input from others is always a great way to open your eyes to new ways to describe it.

    When I say high end tack, I mean saddles, bridles, bits, stirrups, leathers, girths. All english disciplines.
    "to each his own..."

  • #2
    Expensive

    Comment


    • #3
      quality
      supple
      smooth
      balanced
      hand stitched

      Comment


      • #4
        Attention to detail
        craftsmanship
        durability
        investment

        Comment


        • #5
          FWIW, i have now had two saddle fitters who worked on my dressage saddle at different times praise/say they were impressed by the quality of the leather and workmanship in it. I bought it used for a very reasonable price. It's a Smith-Worthington. The leather shows very little wear, even after 15+ years. Of course, my good old Steubben Impreator looks great, too, and its' 25+ years old! LOL

          Comment


          • #6
            Originally posted by DancingArabian View Post
            Expensive
            This. There really is no better descriptive word than that. That being said, you can have high-end tack that looks and feels just like low-end tack. Yes, you can certainly try to pay more for craftsmanship and quality but the term "high-end" really should not be applied to tack or a lot of other goods where there's no guarantee of quality and features as you go up in price. A $10000 saddle isn't going to do anything different than a $1300 saddle will unless the more expensive one has built-in GPS with topographic maps, cup holders, and a heated seat. THAT would be high-end.
            Thus do we growl that our big toes have, at this moment, been thrown up from below!

            Comment


            • #7
              High end tack to me is only the items made years ago. Nothing made today is "high end" in my mind. Except the items made by Bartville harness. But nobody wants that stuff for showing.

              My bridles, lead shanks, & halters are close to 50 years old. You will NOT find leather made like that anymore. Lexol is their friend.

              Folks on here many times claim " oh, my tack is OLD. It's at least 7 years old" Seriously?

              I had a Stubben saddle, German made, that I let go a few years ago because I wanted a 17.5. I found a lovely Stubben, to replace it, but the billets were no where near the quality of the first one. Still an older Stubben and well made.

              My bridles,stirrup leathers, and girths are my life line. Flimsy "pretty" stitching doesn't cut it for me.

              Comment


              • #8
                Quality and durability.
                I LOVE my Chickens!

                Comment


                • #9
                  Growing up our riding school had it's own saddler.
                  We made and sold most everything but saddles.
                  We did repair all, including saddles.
                  I helped there some evenings and learned much.

                  One sign of good quality work is that the edges of leather strap goods are hand rubbed smooth.

                  I had a western belt made with tooling and it is wonderful, except they left the edges "raw".
                  To me that is not a finished job, be it a belt, bridle, halter, leadshank, any such leather should have hand rubbed, smooth edges.

                  Comment


                  • #10
                    I specifically don't think of "buttery soft". English leather is not mushy like American leather tends to be, and it is not the thin calfskin that some brands love today.

                    High quality leather goods are usually hard and uncomfortable to begin with, need breaking in and develop a patina over time. "Buttery soft" to me reads as "will wear out in 2 years".

                    Comment


                    • #11
                      Agree about "buttery soft." I think it is marketing language that has been successful. Buttery soft to me means tears easily. There is a difference between pliable and supple leather than soft leather. In answer to the OP's question, when I think high end, I think handmade and custom made.
                      Where Fjeral Norwegian Fjords Rule
                      http://www.ironwood-farm.com

                      Comment


                      • #12
                        Soft comes from use & care.

                        New tack s/b hard and stiff but will supple with use & attention to keeping it clean and conditioned.

                        Otherwise I agree with those saying highend = good stitching (preferably hand) and attention to detail.

                        PSA:
                        Stubben Hamanol dressing is THE BEST for old, neglected leather!
                        Stinks to high heaven, but it softened a pair of chaps (smooth leather, not roughout) I had hanging in my barn for almost 10yrs to the point they are like new!
                        OK - not like new & stiff. Make that old & well-cared for
                        *friend of bar.ka*RIP all my lovely boys, gone too soon:
                        Steppin' Out 1988-2004
                        Hey Vern! 1982-2009, Cash's Bay Threat 1994-2009
                        Sam(Jaybee Altair) 1994-2015

                        Comment


                        • #13
                          All of the descriptions above USED to apply. Nowadays, I see "high-end" as mostly whatever the AA-circuit trainers have deemed is currently "fashionable."

                          There is no major qualitative difference between a Butet or Devoucoux and saddles costing thousands less. The bridlework at Beval's has in the past five years taken a two if not three-hundred dollar leap to the land of "if you have to ask," and yet is no different than the tack they were selling before.

                          A $35 Troxel helmet is certified just as safe as a GPA or Samshield, and no less ugly. The new "technical" jackets look just great if you've never experienced legitimate natural materials and fine tailoring--to those who have, they look like the sprayed-on polyester they are and the price is a howler. Ditto some of the very weird offerings in boots.

                          It's not about quality, folks--just a fad!

                          Comment


                          • #14
                            Platinum Visa Card
                            the NOT!! Spoiled!! Arabian Protectavest poster pony lives on in my heart

                            Comment

                            Working...
                            X