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    tinygoats.com/9.html

    I just updated it. Someone please let me know if it takes forever to load. I have decreased file size as much as I can. If it gets too slow, I'll just split it into two pages.
    Last edited by tikidoc; Jan. 11, 2009, 12:12 PM.

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    • Originally posted by SherwoodAcres View Post

      This is kind of related, but this thread really got me thinking. Canter is a wonderful organization, I love what they are doing and what they stand for but sometimes the trainer listings really make me wonder. I've been looking at the various sites and some trainers have the horses listed at $3995 to me that is a LOT for a horse that is right off the track. I mean sure they may have substance, nice colouring and potential. But, especially with the market the way it is now, I can find a going horse with some show miles that may even be half warmblood for that same price. I know these trainers want to get some return on their investment, but at the same time the horse is up for sale for a reason - it's not paying it's bills. I don't know this horse's particular situation when it was first listed, or his price, but I'm sure if was dropped someone would've picked him and he would've been saved some of his pain. At least he's in a good home now surrounded by love. I just think more trainers should drop the price (my coach has been given FREE ottb or only paid $500) then they wouldn't be at auction. I mean how much profit can they make sending that horse to auction? Wouldn't they feel better knowing their horse has found a good home?

      Before I get negative feedback, I just want to clarify that I am in no way saying that every trainer sends their horse to auction, I know that many trainers don't and a lot of trainers/owners love their horses just as much as I do mine.
      It's just a different world at the track...Its my experience that most of these trainers are more "wheelers and dealers" than savvy business people. If you show up on the backstretch with cash in your pocket and a trailer, most likely the price is negotiable. But to call them up on the phone and try to make a deal, then ask to have the horse vetted...thats like a foreign language to them. They usually need the stall immediately. I think its just a different way of doing things on the track than it is out in the real world...I do think most of these trainers care about where their animals end up, but on the other side of things, they need to pay their own bills.

      Tiki...Storm is just gorgeous!! Congratulations and great job!!

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        Just showing up with a trailer was not really an option - it is a many hour drive, so I wanted to at least talk with the guy first. And Storm raced (and lost) for another 4 months after I called. Oh, well, water under the bridge. At least the guy is banned from that particular track (got busted on the no slaughter policy). Just doesn't make sense to me. He will continue to race the losing horse, but won't waste 5 minutes to return a call to someone interested in taking the horse off his payroll.

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        • tikidoc, this is SO random, but where did you buy the Kieffer Built trailer that's in the background of the pictures?
          Somewhere in the world, Jason Miraz is Goodling himself and wondering why "the chronicle of the horse" is a top hit. CaitlinAndTheBay

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          • Originally posted by kcmel View Post
            Wonderful update. He needs a blog!
            He does! I love to read about these happy stories.
            -Debbie / NH

            My Blog: http://deborahsulli.blogspot.com/

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              Originally posted by Candle View Post
              tikidoc, this is SO random, but where did you buy the Kieffer Built trailer that's in the background of the pictures?
              That one's not mine, it's owned by the barn owner, the one holding Storm in the pic (I have the camera). I can ask her. Mine is the Trail-Et further in the background...

              Originally posted by cranky View Post
              He does! I love to read about these happy stories.
              His website, which is formatted sort of like a blog, is at tinygoats.com/9.html. It's sort of our family farm site, and all my horses have a page, although Storm's is the most complete because I have more to say about his story than my other, never abused, horses.

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              • Originally posted by 2boys View Post
                That was the most interesting thing I noticed about my ottb. He had such a defensive, "What are you going to do to me?" look on his face for the first several months. He has turned into a complete mooshball who makes more goofy faces than I could ever imagine an equine contorting now...
                Same here... he was always king of making faces, but when I first got Poly he often had this "Oh god, what do these humans expect of me now?" look on his face...in fact, it was continual for the first month, and took a long time receeding ... He was completely suspicious and worried for ages ... but as time went on he lost it completely and is now completely self-satisfied and looks at me as if he is royalty and I am the servant. Amazing, how they change! A friend of mine, who helped me with him when I first got him, saw him or the first time in a year and a half about a month ago...and rode him... she commented that he's changed a lot - he used to be very intense... now he's happy to have fun and play with you. Yeah... love those OTTBs!

                I love Storm - he's got a terribly cute face and I bet hes' going to settle in brilliantly for you, Tiki I'm not on here much anymore, but hopefully I'll manage to catch on to see more pictures as time goes on
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                "Show me the back of a thoroughbred horse, and I will show you my wings."
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                • Originally posted by tikidoc View Post
                  That one's not mine, it's owned by the barn owner, the one holding Storm in the pic (I have the camera). I can ask her. Mine is the Trail-Et further in the background...



                  His website, which is formatted sort of like a blog, is at tinygoats.com/9.html. It's sort of our family farm site, and all my horses have a page, although Storm's is the most complete because I have more to say about his story than my other, never abused, horses.
                  I was curious because my family sold an identical trailer to that one in your region roughly two years ago or so, and it would be really weird if that used to be my trailer. Kind of cool though!
                  Somewhere in the world, Jason Miraz is Goodling himself and wondering why "the chronicle of the horse" is a top hit. CaitlinAndTheBay

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                  • Tiki- he looks wonderful! He's really packing it on quick! Yay.



                    Sherwood- sometimes I think the CANTER prices are just random #'s. Kind of like they just closed their eyes and pointed at a number. I wish more people realized most trainers are very negotiable. A lot of people get turned off by the listing price, and don't even bother calling, when all you have to do is ask if the price is negotiable. Asking price is just that...it's what they're asking for. Doesn't necessarily have anything to do with the amount they'll take.

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                    • As far as trainer pricing goes, my friend called about a grey gelding, listed on CANTER before she even left her farm. She was told on the phone that the price was very negotiable, to come and see him, he was a great horse, too slow for the track. My friend hooked up her trailer and drove 14 hours to go and see him. Guess what, his price was not negotiable at all. I also think that the trainer horses are way overpriced, I just wait and buy them when they give up and send them to the auctions. In reality, you are taking the same risk, since the backside doesn't go along with vettings and test rides, so the soundness risk is exactly the same. Only, instead of paying 1500, 2500, 3500, you can get the horse for $350-600. As another poster mentioned, for 2500 and up, you can buy a horse with show experience and well trained.
                      www.lazydacres.com

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                      • Originally posted by Lazydacres Farm View Post
                        In reality, you are taking the same risk, since the backside doesn't go along with vettings and test rides, so the soundness risk is exactly the same.
                        You can have horses vetted at the track. No, you can't ride them, and sure, it depends on the trainer, but it's not impossible Just sayin'
                        "smile a lot can let us ride happy,it is good thing"

                        My CANTER blog.

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                        • I'd rather pay a few extra bones now rather than wait til an auction. The horse in this thread is the reason why. Why risk the trauma poor Storm endured, just to save some money? You have no way of knowing what will happen to them between the time the trainer valued them at $XXXX and sent them to auction. They could be crippled, in body or brain. You'll end up spending more than the original purchase price you thought was too high in the beginning, just to get them back to what they looked like then. But I digress...that's not what this thread is about.



                          Storm is looking fantastic!

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                            Just a quick update. Storm continues to come along. If the weather allows, I am hoping to start him under saddle in March. He is slowly putting on weight. He is still a bit ribby but now looks like a horse who is just a bit thin, not the skin and bones he was in November. He is a really lovely mover, with a big, floaty, flat-kneed trot and a huge canter stride. Would be a lovely hunter trot (but I no longer do the hunters).

                            I had a saddle on him for the first time last week, and I think he took it as a signal that he was off to the races! It was like the post parade, dancing around and snorting. So our emphasis for the next few weeks will be that a saddle does not mean race day, it's just another day. Once he chills about the saddle, I will start thinking about starting under saddle. He seems to learn pretty fast, so I think he will get the idea quickly.

                            He is still not the most trusting horse, and when he is groomed he seems to be undecided - do I like this or hate this? He is finally comfortable letting me handle his back legs (which were covered in big scabs when he arrived), which is a big step for him, and I was able to comb his forelock for the first time this week.

                            He has much more attitude than I expected from his initial behavior (depressed). He is learning manners for what I assume is the first time. He does a lot of snapping in my direction when I get on his nerves but has never really tried to make contact, and he is starting to learn that this is not acceptable. Interestingly, he is the most polite horse I have ever seen about treats, and positive reinforcement when he tolerates a long grooming session seems to help his attitude. He is also becoming more social with the other horses, who he used to completely ignore.

                            These are from yesterday:

                            http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pi...&id=1129175141

                            http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pi...&id=1129175141

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                            • He looks beau-ti-mous! And that trot is really loffly! You are definitely doing right by him.

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                              • He's looking lovely, good health and weight. Kudos for sticking it out and working with him to get him over his issues. It sounds like you're doing everything right and it's just going to take time. Thanks for the update.

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                                • Handsome, handsome boy! Sounds like he's coming around.
                                  "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." Albert Einstein

                                  http://s1098.photobucket.com/albums/...2011%20Photos/

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                                  • He's really coming around well. Looking good!
                                    *The Quietman ~ Irish Approved Gr.1 Stallion
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                                    • Oh, my - what a stunning boy!
                                      www.specialhorses.org
                                      a 501(c)3 organization helping 501(c)3 equine rescues

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                                      • He is gorgeous, and I just love greys!!!!! You are SO lucky!!

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                                        • Storm is looking awesome! Sounds like you are making progress with his *concerns*, hang in there, one day the light will come on and he'll realize you are his for keeps. Thanks for the update! It's great to see him recovering!

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