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Young girl from Maine rescues 2 slaughter-bound young horses in Washington State!

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    #41
    Originally posted by RubyTuesday View Post
    I'm sayin'. I'm sure some hands capable of helping with training would be an asset for the girl and the horses.
    Or rescue them....

    but you are missing the point:
    Throwing more freebies out there isn't going to make this gig work...
    There are a lot of people struggling right now feeding one horse on a steady income....

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      #42
      Long time lurker, first time poster. Like others, I find this really sad. While I commend a young person that age for their hard work and determination to reach a goal, I don't see how this can possibly be a good long term situation. I'm an adult, married and two good incomes coming in and I could not afford two horses!!

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        #43
        While you're all busy running it up the flag pole that you're meaner than snakes, did it occur to ANY of you that the whole thing was probably done for the publicity?

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          #44
          Originally posted by Lady Eboshi View Post
          While you're all busy running it up the flag pole that you're meaner than snakes, did it occur to ANY of you that the whole thing was probably done for the publicity?
          That makes it any better?

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            #45
            Are you wearing a T-shirt that says,

            "Live to Snark, Snark to Live?"

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              #46
              Originally posted by Lady Eboshi View Post
              Are you wearing a T-shirt that says,

              "Live to Snark, Snark to Live?"
              I would not want to be caught dead wearing the same shirt as you.

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                #47
                On a serious level, some families of a progressive bent get their children started in activism and fund-raising at an early age. I personally know several like this. The kids learn all they'll need to know to sit on the boards of several non-profits when they're grown up; and you may find such on full scholarships at schools like Ethel Walker and Foxcroft. Chances are they know exactly what they're doing; only what some of the KINDER people on COTH have done many times for each other.

                I have personally shipped two of my own "rescues" clear across the country; one from the Rockies and one from the deep South, and as long as the dude driving the rig gets paid who cares?

                Perhaps the venom here should be reserved for the people who got those horses into their predicament to BEGIN with, eh? Including the "breeders?"

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by Lady Eboshi View Post
                  REALITY BREAK!!

                  Just for frame of reference, what were all of YOUR first horses? Any "pony for Christmas?" "Hissy fit at the Auction?" "Used-up much beloved Schoolie?" "He followed me home from Camp?" or, in my case, "No one else wants to ride this SOB, I'll sell him to you cheap!"

                  Very few teens who weren't born with a silver spoon in their mouth start out with superior stock from reputable breeders . . . beaucoup many of us rode what we could get. Including MANY who became professionals having learned "on the job."

                  Carry on . . .
                  My first was a pretty white pony that I got to ride at the fair on the pony rides...

                  my parents knew nothing (still don't know much 21 years later), the pony was most definitely NOT even the same pony I rode at the fair, and come to think of it, wasn't quite even a pony! The thing was the size of a pulling pony. Nasty, bucking pain in the butt pony, who was sold almost two years later when she bronced my friend off and she broke her arm.

                  Next horse: $600 gelding the neighbor owned. Full size horse. No idea what he was like, neighbor offered him up for me to ride, I was 7. I got on and went. All day long some days. Parents bought him for me at the end of that first summer.
                  "If you think nobody cares about you, try missing a couple payments..."

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                    #49
                    I paid 145 for my first one, an unbroken 2 year old. What a mistake.... But I paid my own expenses for it, I was about 18 or 19.

                    But, anyway, its a nice fluffy story light on facts (horses from Washington State who had "never seen trees or grass before"?) and the reality of owning and caring for 2 horses. Rather heavily editorial too, more somebody's agenda then a sweet story all about the 12 year old and the continuing challenges she will face expense wise. I hope the kid is not getting used by some of the adults around her.

                    So much for my "venom". Good luck to them, they will need it.
                    When opportunity knocks it's wearing overalls and looks like work.

                    The horse world. Two people. Three opinions.

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                      #50
                      While the article does indicate that the girl continues to look for some assistance with these horses, I still don't see how that's much different from the various COTH bandwagons that have rescued other horses in the past.

                      It appears that we can universally agree on certain facts: 1) that adopting two very young untrained horses is a poor choice for a young owner, 2) that doing so on the other side of the country is a poor choice, 3) that the sellers took advantage of her good heart, and 4) that the girl is probably in over her head, not realizing what she's gotten herself in to.

                      Since none of that is up for debate, why do we continue to debate it?

                      I read the story several times. The girl did not bring the horses home to her back yard, they're at a boarding stable that from their (somewhat outdated) web site appears to have horses in good condition and operates a lesson and therapeutic riding program. So it would seem that she had knowledgeable help.

                      Her parents expect her to work to support this choice, as would most small town parents. But there was no indication that they would suddenly walk away and leave the horses to starve if babysitting dries up for a while.

                      This young woman may very well be able to work off a portion of her board, and may get enough help to get the horses started off properly for the first vet and farrier visits. And yes, if one of them colics and requires expensive intervention, she may face the same choice that many here on COTH have faced, that of putting a horse down because you can't afford treatment.

                      She's 12. If she's dedicated to her cause (and believe it or not, that is possible in a young person) then she will be 14 or 15 when these two are ready to be backed. And perhaps she'll even be able to sell them as nice horses when she's 16.

                      I know my first horse was a laundry list of bad choices.

                      It's one thing to load up on the armchair criticism of the adult who's selling their ugly backyard horse on Craigslist, or who runs a backyard rescue. It's quite another to continue to pound away at the obvious in a story about a 12 year old.

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                        #51
                        Well, this is an example of why you need to monitor the sites your kids go to on the internet.

                        She is now a young owner of two young horses. She has moxie and she seems to mean well. How about instead of fileting her publicly, we put our resources together and see if there is a trainer in her area that can help guide her?
                        Pray, hope, and don't worry.

                        St. Padre Pio

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                          #52
                          Originally posted by microbovine View Post
                          Well, this is an example of why you need to monitor the sites your kids go to on the internet.

                          She is now a young owner of two young horses. She has moxie and she seems to mean well. How about instead of fileting her publicly, we put our resources together and see if there is a trainer in her area that can help guide her?
                          ^^This. Do we have any trainers from Maine on here? I find it hard to believe we don't...how about farriers who can put the idea to rest that getting these horses' feet back into shape is going to be such an expensive job? Unless they have serious issues, I am not believing that particular item is going to be so very costly, and maybe there's someone up in Maine who wouldn't mind giving her a little break too since she's working to get these horses to be good to stand? Surely two horses who can stand well are worth a few bucks off at the end of the day to save on the back rather than work on others who lean/don't want to stand/want to kick?

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                            #53
                            I don't see anyone here critical of the 12 year old. She's 12. She's acting like a 12 year old - a very compassionate, well-intended, hard working 12 year old. However. 12 year olds also need boundaries. Lots of them, usually. And reality checks. The *adults* in her life do deserve whatever fileting comes their way. She's well on the way to losing a substantial amount of money - a veritable fortune by 12 year old standards - AND both horses. I feel very sorry for her, and disgusted towards the adults who allowed it.

                            She seems to have guidance at the boarding stable where she's keeping them, so I don't think this is an issue where she's going to flounder on her own in terms of knowledge/horse management. It seems to be purely an economic quandary that she's in now.

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                              #54
                              Originally posted by Hinderella View Post
                              Since none of that is up for debate, why do we continue to debate it?
                              We cant help it, it's in our nature...

                              I cant recall any of the COTH bandwagons trying to help a young kid having to solicit funds, discounts and freebies to keep a horse come up with a yearling and a 4 month old on the other side of the country.
                              When opportunity knocks it's wearing overalls and looks like work.

                              The horse world. Two people. Three opinions.

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                                #55
                                I don't know this girl personally, but I do know her farrier (actually she's a trimmer). She is my trimmer as well. I can assure you, she's not expensive, nor would she take anyone for a ride. I'm sure the horse's feet, at least, are in good hands.

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                                  #56
                                  Originally posted by Hinderella View Post
                                  While the article does indicate that the girl continues to look for some assistance with these horses, I still don't see how that's much different from the various COTH bandwagons that have rescued other horses in the past.

                                  It appears that we can universally agree on certain facts: 1) that adopting two very young untrained horses is a poor choice for a young owner, 2) that doing so on the other side of the country is a poor choice, 3) that the sellers took advantage of her good heart, and 4) that the girl is probably in over her head, not realizing what she's gotten herself in to.

                                  Since none of that is up for debate, why do we continue to debate it?

                                  I read the story several times. The girl did not bring the horses home to her back yard, they're at a boarding stable that from their (somewhat outdated) web site appears to have horses in good condition and operates a lesson and therapeutic riding program. So it would seem that she had knowledgeable help.

                                  Her parents expect her to work to support this choice, as would most small town parents. But there was no indication that they would suddenly walk away and leave the horses to starve if babysitting dries up for a while.

                                  This young woman may very well be able to work off a portion of her board, and may get enough help to get the horses started off properly for the first vet and farrier visits. And yes, if one of them colics and requires expensive intervention, she may face the same choice that many here on COTH have faced, that of putting a horse down because you can't afford treatment.

                                  She's 12. If she's dedicated to her cause (and believe it or not, that is possible in a young person) then she will be 14 or 15 when these two are ready to be backed. And perhaps she'll even be able to sell them as nice horses when she's 16.

                                  I know my first horse was a laundry list of bad choices.

                                  It's one thing to load up on the armchair criticism of the adult who's selling their ugly backyard horse on Craigslist, or who runs a backyard rescue. It's quite another to continue to pound away at the obvious in a story about a 12 year old.
                                  very well written!

                                  it sounds like this 12 yr old is very passionate and driven - a trait in which i am enviable of! best of luck to her, she will need it, and hope her parents are more supportive than some of the posters here..
                                  AETERNUM VALE, INVICTUS - 7/10/2012

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                                    #57
                                    Originally posted by beowulf View Post
                                    very well written!

                                    it sounds like this 12 yr old is very passionate and driven - a trait in which i am enviable of! best of luck to her, she will need it, and hope her parents are more supportive than some of the posters here..
                                    If her parents had simply said "No." she wouldn't be in need of donations or support. The 12 yro behaved like a 12 yro does. Unfortunately, so did her parents. I had a pony fund at that age. If I had gotten $3K in it, my parents would have still said "No" I see no need at all to be supportive of anyone in this situation.
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                                      #58
                                      Anyone else hear the music from Jaws playing when such threads get started? Like someone else said earlier, why not heap all the venom and questioning on the people who sent these young horses to the feedlot rather than a well meaning young girl? Right or wrong, she has the two now and I really hope for the best, especially after all the nasty negativity I've seen displayed here. COTH is very much a snark infested pool these days.

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                                        #59
                                        Originally posted by Lisa Cook View Post
                                        I read it as young girl obtains 2 horses she can't afford and is dependent upon discounted board, vet and farrier fees in addition to stranger donations in order to sustain them. This is good - how?
                                        Exactly.

                                        2 horses. Neither is rideable at this time.
                                        Both need years of upkeep and some training to become remotely usable.
                                        Girl has no reliable income and at 12 is years away from being able to get a $ paying job.
                                        Winter is on the way, and school ought to be her priority and will take much of her time.

                                        The parents should have redirected her to a better mount.

                                        Thank goodness she is boarding the horse. Hopefully someone at the facility will help educate her family on why they need to think hard about which horse they may want to keep and how to move the other one to a new owner.

                                        I can't think a therapeutic riding program is going to be overjoyed having 2 untrained youngsters boarding -liability issues, anyone?


                                        I'm glad the horses caught a break.

                                        Now they all need to catch another one.

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                                          #60
                                          Originally posted by betonbill View Post
                                          Was this a CBER reincarnation?
                                          Originally posted by LauraKY View Post
                                          Sounds like another rescue/broker screaming "the truck is coming, the truck is coming."
                                          I know some of the people responsible for starting Auction Horses. It's not Scam reincarnated. The people behind it are the GOOD people from CBER who saw a better way. They are not a rescue, they simply volunteer their time to help horses, whether they are at the auctions, CL or kill pens. Many of the horses do go to slaughter, but they don't use that tug at heart strings, it is just the reality of what happens to most of the horses.

                                          It's unfortunate the few bad people involved with helping horses automatically make the decent people seem guilty until proven innocent, but I do understand.

                                          Originally posted by Hinderella View Post
                                          While the article does indicate that the girl continues to look for some assistance with these horses, I still don't see how that's much different from the various COTH bandwagons that have rescued other horses in the past.

                                          It appears that we can universally agree on certain facts: 1) that adopting two very young untrained horses is a poor choice for a young owner, 2) that doing so on the other side of the country is a poor choice, 3) that the sellers took advantage of her good heart, and 4) that the girl is probably in over her head, not realizing what she's gotten herself in to.

                                          Since none of that is up for debate, why do we continue to debate it?

                                          I read the story several times. The girl did not bring the horses home to her back yard, they're at a boarding stable that from their (somewhat outdated) web site appears to have horses in good condition and operates a lesson and therapeutic riding program. So it would seem that she had knowledgeable help.

                                          Her parents expect her to work to support this choice, as would most small town parents. But there was no indication that they would suddenly walk away and leave the horses to starve if babysitting dries up for a while.

                                          This young woman may very well be able to work off a portion of her board, and may get enough help to get the horses started off properly for the first vet and farrier visits. And yes, if one of them colics and requires expensive intervention, she may face the same choice that many here on COTH have faced, that of putting a horse down because you can't afford treatment.

                                          She's 12. If she's dedicated to her cause (and believe it or not, that is possible in a young person) then she will be 14 or 15 when these two are ready to be backed. And perhaps she'll even be able to sell them as nice horses when she's 16.

                                          I know my first horse was a laundry list of bad choices.

                                          It's one thing to load up on the armchair criticism of the adult who's selling their ugly backyard horse on Craigslist, or who runs a backyard rescue. It's quite another to continue to pound away at the obvious in a story about a 12 year old.
                                          Originally posted by beowulf View Post
                                          very well written!

                                          it sounds like this 12 yr old is very passionate and driven - a trait in which i am enviable of! best of luck to her, she will need it, and hope her parents are more supportive than some of the posters here..
                                          Amen, Hinderella and beowolf!
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