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  • #81
    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Kryswyn:

    In the future, *as in the past* you will soon see a definite difference between the PRT and the JRT. In 20 years, you will never guess they were the same. The Jack Russell remains the *original* Fox Terrier from which the Wire & Smooth Fox Terrier, the PRT and the Russell Terrier (UKC registry) are descended from.

    ~Kryswyn~
    "Always look on the bright side of life, de doo, de doo de doo de doo"<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

    You got that right. All you have to do is compare today's Fox Terrier to the Jack Russell which used to be the same breed. JRT's remained a type of working terrier in the kennels while the fox terriers went on to the kennel club to be show dogs. To see what a difference breeding for a comformation standard rather than a working standard can do to change a breed, just look at how different they are now. I doubt there are any fox terriers that could fit into a fox den with that ultra deep chest they have been bred for.

    Thanks for posting that link Robby. Now you can all see why I got so worked up when the AKC was mentioned in the same breath as JRT's...a breed I love dearly.

    "Dogs look up to you, cats look down on you. Give me a pig. He just looks you in the eye and treats you as an equal" Winston Churchill
    "No hour of life is lost that is spent in the saddle..." Winston Churchill

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    • #82
      and again, here is grizzly's adorable face!

      "I hope you will grow up to be gentle and good, and never learn bad ways, do your work with good will, lift your feet up well when you trot, and never bite or kick even in play."
      -Duchess, Black Beauty, Anna Sewell
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      \"I hope you will grow up to be gentle and good, and never learn bad ways, do your work with good will, lift your feet up well when you trot, and never bite or kick even in play.\"
      -Duchess, Black Beauty, Anna Sewell

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      • #83
        Have to second the Bouvier des Flandres recommendation

        I've had bouv's for almost as long as I can remember. My current bouv is going to be 13 years old this year. She is not yappy, attentive to the property, does not chase the horses, cats, neighbors and has never bitten anyone.

        The only down side I can say about Bouvier's is their coat though *sigh* I hate grooming and they are a long coated breed with a down inner coat and then a wirey outer coat. You can however shave them in the summer and it works well.

        These are gaurd/herding dogs but must be socialized correctly, learn fast and make excellent farm, family, pets.

        Gold

        Coloured Horses....Oh My!
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        • #84
          I second the nomination of a Dalmatian. They were bred to be around horses, they are wonderful ratters, and they have incredible endurance to keep up on trail rides.

          The Rottie IS a farm dog; they have a bad reputation, as do Dals, because of poor breeding practices.

          If you would consider a somewhat rare, non AKC breed, the Catahoula Leopard Cur is a lovely farm dog. SMooth coated, too, like the Dal, so it's relatively low maintenance.

          Personally, I wouldn't touch a herding dog or any dog with hair longer than a Rottie's.
          "I'm a lumberjack, and I'm okay."
          Thread killer Extraordinaire

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          • #85
            Daydream Believer,
            What is your kennel prefix?

            ~Kryswyn~
            "Always look on the bright side of life, de doo, de doo de doo de doo"
            ~Kryswyn~ Always look on the bright side of life, de doo, de doo de doo de doo
            Check out my Kryswyn JRTs on Facebook

            "Life is merrier with a terrier!"

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            • #86
              GGold:
              If you haven't tried a Coat King yet, may I suggest it will make your life SO MUCH easier and less hairy?

              With a Coat King I can carve the dog out of a hairy yak in about 30 minutes. Not finished completely, but you can see the dog that was underneath all that hair!

              ~Kryswyn~
              "Always look on the bright side of life, de doo, de doo de doo de doo"
              ~Kryswyn~ Always look on the bright side of life, de doo, de doo de doo de doo
              Check out my Kryswyn JRTs on Facebook

              "Life is merrier with a terrier!"

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              • #87
                I work at an aminal shelter so I also must say go to the shelters. We get in almost as many purebreds as mixed breeds. I also volunteer for United States Neapolitian Mastiff Rescue and we use Petfinder.com as well, it really is great.

                That said, I adopted Sully from my shelter. He is an Olde English Bulldogge, and an amazing barn/farm dog. Never chases the horses, never wanders, very smart, and he is a mouser! We live on 12 acres and in 1 week knew the boundries. He has the clown antics like a Boxer, the charm of an English Bulldog, and the intelligence of the Poodle. I am beyond impressed with this breed. Here's a pic so you can see him! He is about 75 pounds so more on the large side then medium.

                Love means attention, which means looking after the things we love. We call this stable management.
                - George H. Morris
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                Love means attention, which means looking after the things we love. We call this stable management.
                - George H. Morris

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                • #88
                  Ok, so in my fickle dreamland I'll let go of the love for the entle's. I did that site where you answer questions about what you want and they narrow down your search to a mere 157 dogs!!! Well, I fell in love with number 11 - the italian spinone. That's my latest gotta have dog. I still can't afford it!!!

                  And anyway, all talk of getting a dog ended. We talked about it last night after our loving Dumptruck (cat) had been disappeared for 2 whole nights. He's never not come back for his morning loving so we figured he'd gone the way of all cats around these parts. But no! My husband went out to his woodshop - hadn't been there since mid day wednesday and there he was!!! YEA!!!!! So, we'll stick with the Dumper for now.

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                  • #89
                    Laurie - I am glad to hear your experience with Dalmations. I am an animal lover to the max and have never anything but a stupid Dalmation. I am glad to hear otherwise. Pam

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                    • #90
                      <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by equescool:
                      Laurie - I am glad to hear your experience with Dalmations. I am an animal lover to the max and have never anything but a stupid Dalmation. I am glad to hear otherwise. Pam<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

                      It's DalmatiAn, as in Martian etc, the dog from Dalmatia....

                      They probably had you fooled to think they were dumb, so they could practice their hyper temperament snoosing on the couch
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                      • #91
                        On the same wave as the Manchester Terrier... I have a Rat Terrier/Fiest (Manchester + Fox) and she is wonderful. I read the Manchester characteristics and that is her. She rarely barks (except when she is outside the back door and wants to come in), doesn't chase horses, likes kitties, and very little shedding among other things. After seeing her, two other people I know have gotten a Rat.

                        I attached a picture of her because I think she is that cute. She isn't perfect with her limp ear, but she's mine.

                        ~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*
                        I hope life isn't a big joke, because I don't get it.
                        Jack Handy
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                        • #92
                          Dalmatians

                          Not dumb, but can be incredibly stubborn, and intelligent enough to figure out how NOT to do something they find no need for.

                          Stripe was brilliant, and fortunately had a tremendous desire to please. My obedience Dal, OTOH, while equally intelligent, did not see the need to please me if it didn't also please herself. While she did well in obedience, even went HIT at a specialty, she could have been a world beater if she could have found a REAL reason to sit STRAIGHT, pick up the dumbell IMMEDIATELY(not nose around the grass for 30 seconds first), etc. She did what was required (in her mind) but not a pebble more.

                          My biggest problem training Dals was in being a creative enough trainer to keep them from being bored, and yawning in my face!

                          Stripe was a superior mouser, excellent guard dog both at home and on the road, and could recognize one of her human friends (she had many) a football field away and go out to greet them, grinning and wagging. Syd (Calypso's groom) was her favorite person of all, and I could always tell without even looking when Stripe had spotted Syd.

                          Sorry to ramble, but I wish there were more Dals being used as barn dogs.

                          Laurie
                          Laurie

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                          • #93
                            <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by lauriep:
                            Dalmatians

                            Not dumb, but can be incredibly stubborn, and intelligent enough to figure out how NOT to do something they find no need for.

                            Stripe was brilliant, and fortunately had a tremendous desire to please. My obedience Dal, OTOH, while equally intelligent, did not see the need to please me if it didn't also please herself. While she did well in obedience, even went HIT at a specialty, she could have been a world beater if she could have found a REAL reason to sit STRAIGHT, pick up the dumbell IMMEDIATELY(not nose around the grass for 30 seconds first), etc. She did what was required (in her mind) but not a pebble more.

                            My biggest problem training Dals was in being a creative enough trainer to keep them from being bored, and yawning in my face!

                            Stripe was a superior mouser, excellent guard dog both at home and on the road, and could recognize one of her human friends (she had many) a football field away and go out to greet them, grinning and wagging. Syd (Calypso's groom) was her favorite person of all, and I could always tell without even looking when Stripe had spotted Syd.

                            Sorry to ramble, but I wish there were more Dals being used as barn dogs.

                            Laurie<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

                            Got Kennel names and timeframes to go by?
                            I am learning about the show stuff (via friends) for 8 years now...
                            A friend of mine is owned by a Flashpoint Dal and was told he could go all the way, Agility or Obidience (her sports)...

                            My dog just gives me a polite yawn
                            Haven't taken her to a barn yet though, I'd love to try Roadtrials....

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                            • #94
                              Alagirl, email me at lpitts@hsc.edu and I'll help you any way that I can.

                              Laurie
                              Laurie

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                              • #95
                                <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Kryswyn:
                                Daydream Believer,
                                What is your kennel prefix?

                                ~Kryswyn~
                                "Always look on the bright side of life, de doo, de doo de doo de doo"<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

                                I'm sure you've never heard of me. I'm very small time. My kennel prefix is Rainbow's End. I have a nice registered male that I may be neutering soon due to age and male problems and a nice young bitch bred to him that I bought from Run Away Farm. Both dogs have great temperments and will hunt till they drop. I have two JRT pets as well...not breeding dogs. Are you a breeder too? It's nice to see other JRTCA affiliated folks here.

                                "Dogs look up to you, cats look down on you. Give me a pig. He just looks you in the eye and treats you as an equal" Winston Churchill
                                "No hour of life is lost that is spent in the saddle..." Winston Churchill

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                                • #96
                                  Does anyone have some feedback about Rhodesian Ridgeback as barn dogs ? We're seriously thinking about getting one soon with my husband and it seemed to be a really good breed to be around horses ... not so good for cats, though

                                  I had very good experiences with german shepherd as barn dogs. I would take one in a minute.

                                  "www.lechevalfrancais.com"

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                                  • #97
                                    I haven't been around RRs in the barn, but have been around them a lot, and I absolutely love them. Laid back, intelligent, sensible, trainable and just plain cool.

                                    They are the breed that many Dal people would choose if they didn't have Dals as their temperament and conformation are similar to a Dal.

                                    Laurie
                                    Laurie

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                                    • #98
                                      Ishi -

                                      That is the cutest dog I think I have ever seen. I would love to just kiss his smooshy little face!

                                      I am so envious of you - fabulous big gray Irish horse; fabulous white bulldog. LOL!

                                      Robby

                                      "Don't mince words, don't be evasive
                                      Speak your mind, be persuasive"
                                      Madonna
                                      When blood is the beverage of choice, the sharpest fangs feed first.

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                                      • #99
                                        I don't have any of those breeds, but I do have a lab, and she is great around barns and shows. The first time she chased a cat, the cat scratched her nose, and Belle doesn't bother cats anymore!

                                        ~*~Holli~*~
                                        ~*~Small Talk~*~
                                        ~*~John Coffey~*~
                                        - Holli

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                                        • Original Poster

                                          First of all, I can't thank everyone enough for responding. You all were SO NICE and I just LOVED reading everything and also seeing everyone's LOVELY photos! THANK YOU!

                                          .... This past week sure has been an educational experience.

                                          We did what SOME folks might say you should never do, we went and got a pound puppy on Friday. She is 6-8 months old and even tho we SAID we never wanted a high energy dog, we just fell in love with her and felt we'd be able to handle a HIGH ENERGY dog providing there was a BRAIN behind the energy....

                                          $500 worth of supplies later (CHOKE ! -- the outdoor run is all we haven't yet), we are thrilled to have "Sam," a mix of undisclosed background. We suspect: 1) Lab first (VERY soft mouth and one HUGE reason we selected her over the other since we didn't want cats to possible be injured -- she also IGNORES ground hogs but chases BIRDS readily); 2) Husky ( has a high pitched bark and LOVES to pull and we are WORKING on that!); 3) Something else to make her smaller and more refined -- she's only 50 pounds and appears to be finished growing.

                                          Hubby and I don't mind spending 1 hour x morning and night right now working on her manners and also walking her in the woods, playing fetch, etc. We are ready to commit to at least 6 months of this more intensive work, in addition to obedience classes mentioned below. We admittedly think afterwards she'll be more obedient and a better companion and pet, and are confident this will happen based on encouraging progress so far!

                                          One bennie of a Pound Puppy is that they are already crate trained. This dog has the potential to be quite ACTIVE, but she has a good brain and is learning to LISTEN when commands are given. We have a VERY GOOD boarder here with a **fantastic** boxer ( a personal preference of mine but hubby doesn't like their faces). "Honey" has spent 30 minutes x the last 3 days 'socializing" "Sam" .... Sam came too aggressive at first but it seemed there was a DEFENSIVE mindset behind it as if she's been put in an environment where she felt quite threatened in the past. It was a bit of a shock to watch the whole process of "socializing." yet, we are very indebted to our boarder because Honey has been an invaluable ally and Nanny in teaching Sam ground rules by GENTLY yet FIRMLY letting Sam know about BOUNDARIES for the first time in Sam's life (I think I owe my boarder a free month's board for this wonderful service and her fabulous degree of PATIENCE in this process)!

                                          Since Honey has knocked Sam down a few notches, Sam has been DEFERRING to us and LISTENING to us when before we were like a mobile leash for her to drag around. It's really amazing. My N.H. skills also really helped teach Sam to ACKNOWLEDGE us as a handler (ears flicking towards you, the rewards and submission concepts,etc.). I am quite grateful for the NH training and never expected it would serve to help us ingratiate our newest, SMALLER family member! We are also enrolling in Obedience classes ASAP since we have seen the bennies of "dog socialization" and obviously also because we are new dog owner and we feel the need to fill in some blanks and pick up any good tips we may have missed....

                                          Wow. What an education! It's a WHOLE NEW WORLD for us "cat people" but we love Sam and are delighted at HOW QUICKLY she makes progress every day. She was so good in Pets Mart everyone kept stopping us and commenting on how well behaved she was, yet we'd only had her 3 hours at that time. She's one of those dogs who is BETTER in a high stimulus environment, and we do have to keep her relatively busy at home -- but we also feel they need to learn to play alone, too and Sam is doing really well at that, too (whew!)!

                                          As hoped, she is QUITE PROTECTIVE of our house, yet doesn't bark unless needed (a royal Pet Peeve of mine is a barking dog). She is WONDERFUL and I owe a lot to everyone here for helping guiding thru the first steps of our dog ownership days. Below is a link to my photos page which I just started recently and hope to expand to include my dressage horses (the one on there is a sale pony -- a "Type A" eventing, team penning or cutting prospect). Here's the link to the photos and Sam is at the bottom of the page (crossing my fingers this works!):

                                          http://groups.msn.com/WarsHorses/equ...msnw?Page=Last

                                          Thanks AGAIN, everyone! You are the bestest!

                                          [This message was edited by magnum on Apr. 15, 2003 at 10:44 AM.]

                                          [This message was edited by magnum on Apr. 15, 2003 at 10:48 AM.]
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