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  • Can anyone identify this Hartley saddle?

    So about 3 years ago I purchased a Hartley saddle off of ebay... it was cheap and was supposed to be a starter saddle- but I loved it so it became my everyday saddle. Unfortunatly, it was old and fell apart despite regular care under my ownership (stitching completely tore out and the saddle basically fell into 2 pieces). I now have a Crosby Hampton Classic and a Toulouse- but I miss my Hartley! The seat was hard as rock but I loved the thing.

    It had suede knee roles.
    I don't have great pics, but here's what I have:
    http://s152.photobucket.com/albums/s...=MiloMount.jpg
    http://s152.photobucket.com/albums/s...loDirty2-1.jpg (it's sitting on the fence infront of the horse).

    I was hoping that maybe luck would be on my side and someone on here could tell me what kind of Hartley it is. I'd love to find another one! Google search has led me nowhere- I've only found listings for the Hartley Apollo and it's no the same saddle.

    If anyone has any info, I'd greatly appreciate it!
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    It might be a Hartley Galaxy.

    I know that Hartleys are very nice saddles made in Walsall, England, but they don't usually show up over here.

    You could try sending an email to http://www.blackcountrysaddles.com/contact.asp which is a dealer/manufacturer in England that carries them.
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    • #3
      Did they make the Galaxy with suede knee rolls? I had one way back when and it didn't look like the one shown here.

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        #4
        Originally posted by Guin View Post
        It might be a Hartley Galaxy.

        I know that Hartleys are very nice saddles made in Walsall, England, but they don't usually show up over here.

        You could try sending an email to http://www.blackcountrysaddles.com/contact.asp which is a dealer/manufacturer in England that carries them.
        I'll check out the link to see what I can find out. Thanks!

        Anyone else have any ideas?
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        • #5
          I had a Galaxy maybe 25 years ago. It didn't have suede but it must have changed over the years.
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          • #6
            It doesn't look like my Hartley Galaxy, but mine may be an ancient model. Very old fashioned CC but with a square cantle, no suede knee roll, and the kind of stirrup leather keeper that wraps around the back of the flap.
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              #7
              Originally posted by linquest View Post
              It doesn't look like my Hartley Galaxy, but mine may be an ancient model. Very old fashioned CC but with a square cantle, no suede knee roll, and the kind of stirrup leather keeper that wraps around the back of the flap.
              Hmm doesn't sound like the one I had. Mine had a rounded cantle and normal stirrup keepers.

              So the mystery continues.
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              • #8
                Yeah, there aren't too many Hartley's on this side on the pond. I had a hard time pricing my saddle by looking at other Hartley ads on line when I was looking to sell. Maybe send your photos to some of the big consignment shops online and see if they can identify it? I remember seeing Hartleys at Rick's Heritage and Buck's County.

                Huh, that's interesting...mine looks exactly like the Apollo model, except that it has "Galaxy" on the metal plate under the skirt.
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by linquest View Post
                  Yeah, there aren't too many Hartley's on this side on the pond. I had a hard time pricing my saddle by looking at other Hartley ads on line when I was looking to sell. Maybe send your photos to some of the big consignment shops online and see if they can identify it? I remember seeing Hartleys at Rick's Heritage and Buck's County.

                  Huh, that's interesting...mine looks exactly like the Apollo model, except that it has "Galaxy" on the metal plate under the skirt.
                  That's a good idea and worth a shot! Thanks!
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                  • #10
                    I still have 2 Hartley's in my tack room. One is definitely a Galaxy and no suede, and definitely a CC. I bought the other one when the first one started to really show age. I have had one reflocked. I believe they are the same model, but several years apart, and only one actually says Galaxy.

                    It was my understanding that Hartley was bought or at least started contracting out the manufacture in the late 1990s (at any rate, not made in the same place). I have sort of always kept an eye out for Hartleys, but sorry, I don't recognize the one in your pictures.

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                    • #11
                      Camping on here to say that my ancient Hartley Galaxy didn't have suede, either. Really I'm just excited that anyone else had / has one!

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                        #12
                        I'm wondering if the seller took a random old saddle and stuck hartley plates on it... since I've never seen another Hartley with suede knee rolls.
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                        • #13
                          Milo -- Can't help you with identifying the saddle, sorry! But, depending on where the sticking fell apart, you may be able to get it fixed. : ) My old Pariani's stitching fell apart at the pommel so that it was almost in two -- cost about $25 to fix it about 10 years ago and it's still going strong. So if you can't find another one, it may be worth your while to see if it can be fixed. Good luck!
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                          • #14
                            Looking at your pictures: if its just the hand stitching holding the pad to the tree...that is easily reattached. To rehandsew front and back together should cost you +-75.00 IF the leather is strong enough to be resewn. Do you have a tack repair service in your area? And you can take Superglue to that slight tear in the seat for a cheap quick repair.
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                            • #15
                              Saddle falling apart

                              The older saddles were stiched together with a linnen thred. This thred does not hold up when cleaners or oils such as neats foot are applied. You have to use a cleaner or oil that will not eat the thread or the saddle will fall apart. perhaps your saddler can stich the saddle back together for you.

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                              • #16
                                Bumping this up - just found a Galaxy Hartley at an antique store. Definitely worn and needs reflocking, but great workmanship and leather. Anyone know more about them?

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