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Four horses found shot to death in New Mexico riverbed

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  • #41
    Originally posted by MMorgan View Post
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    • #42
      Originally posted by Lynnwood View Post
      Pick your battles IMHO , if you want people to NOT send their animals off to other ends then perhaps other less heinous things like dealing with alternatives to help find solutions for carcass disposition are in order.
      I'm betting in this case the buzzards will take care of it, actually . . .

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      • #43
        Oh, but as long as they patted them on the head before blowing the horses brains out, all's good ....

        I would feel just as sad over dogs or cats...

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        • #44
          Originally posted by wireweiners View Post
          Is this area close to the Mexican border? I've heard of drug smugglers using horses to smuggle drugs across the border and then abandoning them. Maybe these horses were used in a drug deal and were shot when they were no longer needed.
          This is pretty far from the Mexican border. About a 5 hour drive w/very rough country between. Very unlikely the horses were used to transport drugs across the border.

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          • #45
            Originally posted by stolen virtue View Post
            Oh, but as long as they patted them on the head before blowing the horses brains out, all's good ....

            I would feel just as sad over dogs or cats...
            SV..sorry to burst your bubble...but euthanization has been your mantra....don't send to slaughter ... kill them...don't use chemicals...bullets are better. Well..that was what appears to have happened.

            Or was that NOT what you truly ment.......????

            Maybe you still just want forever homes...which will clearly demonstrate to new possible horse owners that they do not want to become involved...Best way for the radical groups to win...stop one owner or new owner at a time


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            • #46
              Originally posted by Fairfax View Post
              Here we go...Bled to Death? Are you kidding me...?

              If they had, as was described..a shot to the head..THEY DIED and this is, by all those who are anti slaughter..THE VERY BEST WAY TO KILL A HORSE.

              But then, don't let medical facts get in the way of a Terrible people poor horse story
              LEARN TO READ, Fairfax. I said that the only reason it would be a cruelty case would be if they'd been gutshot, not head shot. I didn't say they WERE. (I do not bother opening news-site links as they take forever on dial-up because of all the extraneous crap on their sites, so I don't know exactly how they died.) Otherwise the only reason law enforcement is involved is they were on public land. I was AGREEING WITH ALAGIRL. READ FOR CONTEXT.

              And no, Lady Eboshi, it wasn't necessarily a 'crappy thing to do.' Honestly, horse owners can't win--shoot them and you're horrible, sell them at auction and you're Satan...not everyone has the money to waste on chemical euthing and absurdly overpriced disposal. Personally I'd ban disposing of animals with barbituates unless they're small enough or in a situation where they can be incinerated as it's unsafe for disposal, but that's me.
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              • #47
                Originally posted by stolen virtue View Post
                Oh, but as long as they patted them on the head before blowing the horses brains out, all's good ....

                I would feel just as sad over dogs or cats...
                "Blowing their brains out" is a lot faster and less cruel than shooting them full of drugs (I can't wait to see what happens when the anti-death-penalty lawsuits get use of the same drugs banned for human execution as painful, cruel and unusual, as the states that use lethal injection are having to switch to them--if it's cruel to humans, what does that mean with animals?) Heck, a GOOD shot could put them down behind the shoulder (but that's not as easy and more for trying to drop a moving animal quickly.) And a lot less ecologically dangerous. If the carcasses are in water, yes, that's a problem, but otherwise a mechanically-killed carcass is just going to get eaten by scavengers. Better than being stuck with 1200lbs of toxic waste and spending hundreds of dollars to have it removed, if you're lucky enough someone will come and get it.
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                  #48
                  Originally posted by Lynnwood View Post
                  Pick your battles IMHO , if you want people to NOT send their animals off to other ends then perhaps other less heinous things like dealing with alternatives to help find solutions for carcass disposition are in order.
                  Originally posted by danceronice View Post
                  . Better than being stuck with 1200lbs of toxic waste and spending hundreds of dollars to have it removed, if you're lucky enough someone will come and get it.
                  There is a program available in NM to help owners with disposal of their horses, as well as provide assistance with feed for people who have fallen on hard times.

                  http://equineprotectionfund.org/programs.php

                  Trail's End

                  The Trail's End program covers some veterinary fees and disposal costs for humanely euthanizing suffering horses and other equines. To qualify, low-income horse owners must have verification from a licensed veterinarian. Law enforcement and horse shelters licensed by the New Mexico Livestock Board are also eligible for this assistance.


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                  • #49
                    Was there not a thread not that long ago from sick animals due to eating a euth'd horse? Maybe a gun shot is better.

                    It is still sad
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                    • #50
                      Originally posted by Jealoushe View Post
                      Was there not a thread not that long ago from sick animals due to eating a euth'd horse? Maybe a gun shot is better.

                      It is still sad
                      Actually the lead in the bullets pose a potential for poisoning other animals as well. I doubt that the shooters are concerned about the wildlife in the area.....

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                      • #51
                        Originally posted by stolen virtue View Post
                        Actually the lead in the bullets pose a potential for poisoning other animals as well. I doubt that the shooters are concerned about the wildlife in the area.....
                        Yes, it would have been safer for wildlife if they had removed the heads and buried them.

                        Or they could have used wildlife-safe copper bullets which are readily available.

                        No comparison with a half ton of chemically toxic flesh resulting from a chemical euth.

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                        • #52
                          Conversely, isn't it a horrible waste of 2 tons of perfectly good meat that could have been used one more time?

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                          • #53
                            Originally posted by betonbill View Post
                            Conversely, isn't it a horrible waste of 2 tons of perfectly good meat that could have been used one more time?
                            Yes, but buzzards gotta eat, same as worms.
                            Originally posted by BigMama1
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                            • #54
                              What if someone shot 4 animals of another species and left the for dead in the river bed? Would everyone have the same reaction?

                              What if it had been 4 cows, dogs, deer....

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