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Someone called AC on me...HAPPY update post 137

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  • #21
    The trespassing makes my head steam.

    That being said, I'm in the "glad someone cared, and glad AC even bothered" camp. If I saw a horse with a nasty wound that's been draining for quite some time, I would probably be bothered by it too. And I say this as someone with a horse with a disgusting draining wound that's going on two weeks old and will be draining for another two to three. But, like you, I have all the vet paperwork, so it's fine!

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    • #22
      Man, I hope the mare recovers well. That is a scary place to get a wound that won't heal. Why does it seem that the nice ones end up facing these situations, and the crazy horses skate through life without ever having a scratch put on them?

      I would also be uncomfortable with the thought of someone unattended on my property. I think sometimes people stretch the truth when they are trying to get some official response to a complaint. It is entirely possible that the woman never got closer than the road, but told AC that they had been on your property in order to make their complaint more viable.

      Also, I think a lot of people have a hard time understanding that even though you have a sign out, advertising boarding, that doesn't mean you are "open" to the general public. I was finishing up in the arena the other morning and a strange man pulled in from the road and stood around by the arena gate. I asked him if I could help him and he explained that he lived down the road and wanted to know if he could "rent" the arena for his daughters to ride in when he didn't have the time to haul them to the arena their riding group practices in. Now, mind you, there is no sign up where I board. But he had seen the barn through the trees, trucks and trailers (lots of people haul in here for lessons) and the arena, and figured it was a "public" facility that he could just pull into.

      Anyway, good to know that the AC was accommodating after seeing your vet records. I hope you get good news on your mare.
      Sheilah

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      • #23
        Hmm... Mental note: add "not open to the public" to any advertisements on future barn.
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        • #24
          My barn sits off the highway and people call animal control all the time.

          There on too many horses turned out so there isn't really any grass, it's basically a giant dry lot.

          So people call because the horses don't have anything to eat.

          Obviously they can't see 300 bales of hay in the barn and tubs full of grain. I think the last time animal control came out they actually suggested that maybe my BM shouldn't feed them so much as they were all fat!
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          • #25
            I had AC called on me one time because there was "a dead blindfolded horse and a blindfolded horse in distress" in my front pasture. One was napping and one was rolling in their fly masks. The AC officer was pleasant and we had a good laugh about the complaint.
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            • #26
              Meup-I bet that woman and probably her entire family, live off of money they make from fake claims. There are actually people that do this, and claim falls in stores, dog bites that never happened, and other incidents to get insurance companies to make a settlement to avoid the expense of going to court. This actually does happen, and some people are apparently very successful at it.

              mps-I suspect that because the wound is now so small, that the reporting person has been on your property quite often, and in the pasture a lot of times. I bet that you have a regular trespasser. Time to re-examine security, and other safety procedures. Maybe you should try to borrow a game camera from someone (if it's too early for hunting season, I bet someone you know has one just sitting around for now), and see what's going on.
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              • #27
                I had AC called on me after a prospective buyer rode my mare and loved her. Mare for sale had a patch, smaller than the palm of my hand, of rain scald. It was being treated and really wasn't an issue. AC came out and were very happy with everything. The next day the prospective buyer rings and offers that now AC have been out she will purchase mare for less than half my asking price I declined. AC rang a few weeks later to tell me prospective buyer was using this as a tactic to try and push price down on several horses she had looked at and would I be interested in making a formal complaint to stop this woman from wasting their very scarce resources. Yep, I was pretty keen to do that I still feel quite indignant about it and it was years ago!

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                • #28
                  ^^^ the nerve of some people!!!
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                  • #29
                    Originally posted by TheJenners View Post
                    They trespass, obviously... And make sure they do it in such a way that gets the property owner in trouble. Llamas. Such drama.
                    You're so right. This one was obviously a rogue drama llama passing through our round pen just to get us in trouble with AC. How rude.
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                    • #30
                      Originally posted by dani0303 View Post
                      I had AC called on me one time because there was "a dead blindfolded horse and a blindfolded horse in distress" in my front pasture. One was napping and one was rolling in their fly masks. The AC officer was pleasant and we had a good laugh about the complaint.

                      We got one about a dead horse with horrible wounds on his legs.

                      The horse was a gorgeous, healthy, NOT dead palomino with normal-sized chestnuts.

                      But it is nice when people care enough to call... even if they're clueless. It bothers me when the people get nasty about it and call and call and demand JUSTICE for the poor injured horse. We had one caller who was irate because one fall a horse was standing in mud (like all horses that fall!). And the horse wasn't vaccinated! (not state law here) And it had no coggins! And when I asked how she knew all this, she told me she could just FEEL it from the horse. And she called and called and called. And got ugly. And probably called other organizations and law enforcement as well.

                      *sigh*
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                      • #31
                        I would absolutely file a police report and at least have them give her a friendly phone call letting her know that under no circumstances is she to set foot on the property again.

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                        • #32
                          For every call that sends AC to an unnecessary trip to a conscientious owner is a call that prevents the AC to come to the animals that really need help. No. The caller was harassing the OP without cause. It is not OK.

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                          • #33
                            I'm in the rather be bothered than not camp, although it irks me no end to see these "100 dead horses" stories. The one fairly close to me all of them were behind closed doors so somebody would have HAD to trespass to see them and report them. I guess when a carcass starts to rot and stink trespassing becomes less of a bad thing?

                            I'm terribly sorry for your mare - my DH is accident prone and had a piece of metal in his finger that he used to have to tell MRI people about, as well as a shard of bone in his elbow that seems to have encapsulated over time. Wood splinters fester and rot and I sure hope that you are all able to come up with some veterinary solution to get them all cleaned out before she gets adhesions and such - big jingles to you!
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                            • #34
                              It's part of the game for the most part. I don't think there are any of us who haven't had the blindfolded thing. I particularly like the "your horse is on fire" call when they are steaming from snow melting on their backs!

                              I had someone email me when my mare was in labor on marestare and demand that I take the dead foal out of the stall so she didn't have to look at it anymore then proceeded to rip me a new one about how race horse people only cared about money and didn't care that the horse was suffering etc. I emailed her back and told her the very much alive foal was still inside the laboring mare then had the two vets in attendance wave at the camera.
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                              • #35
                                Jingles for your mare!!
                                I can't believe that the lady would just go onto your property like that! Jeez! I'd never dream of trespassing on someone's property... Some people just lack manners, and common sense. And if she supposedly has horses, she should know better than to approach a horse she doesn't know like that without permission.

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                                  #36
                                  Originally posted by NBChoice View Post
                                  I had someone call AC on us too. Very weird situation...
                                  this person told AC that they were driving by our place on the way back home from the zoo and that they saw a "llama with no food or water in the round pen."
                                  1. We don't have a llama. 2. We don't have a horse that looks like a llama. 3. We keep water and hay in the round pen when horses are in there. 4. We didn't have a horse turned out in that round pen for a couple days. So what the person saw is beyond me.
                                  AC came out and all was fine.

                                  Good luck with your mare!


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                                  • #37
                                    Originally posted by dani0303 View Post
                                    I had AC called on me one time because there was "a dead blindfolded horse and a blindfolded horse in distress" in my front pasture. One was napping and one was rolling in their fly masks. The AC officer was pleasant and we had a good laugh about the complaint.
                                    OP, I'm sorry for the distress. My hay guy had someone call him about a skinny rescue horse he had recently obtained and he was upset, but I am with others who feel like it's a good thing when people call AC, who will see that everything is okay and be on their way. Not cool that she was trespassing -- that would upset me too.

                                    As for Dani0303's story, I had a similar thing happen: I was on vacation on a tour bus in Turkey and on the way back, I commented to the young couple next to me about how prosperous and well-run the farms and vineyards looked, and that the horses looked fat and happy. The young woman said she had seen the opposite -- horrible suffering; on the way up, there was a horse in the field having a seizure and several were lying dead in the field and she had to hide her face in her husband's sleeve to avoid witnessing the horror. I was perplexed. "The field that we passed on the left?" I asked. They agreed and I explained to them that those horses looked to me like they were snoozing in the sun, and the one "seizing" was probably rolling. You know. Like dogs roll. "Oh, I thought horses couldn't lie down!" was the surprised (and surprising) response.
                                    "Random capitAlization really Makes my day." -- AndNirina

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                                    • #38
                                      Originally posted by NBChoice View Post
                                      You're so right. This one was obviously a rogue drama llama passing through our round pen just to get us in trouble with AC. How rude.
                                      The gate was closed? A jumping drama llama.
                                      "Random capitAlization really Makes my day." -- AndNirina

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                                      • #39
                                        A friend of mine has a horse that impaled himself on a piece of wood. Over a year later it still hadn't healed completely and would open up again periodically.

                                        They finally did a surgery, found another big piece of wood, pulled it out and he finally healed with no further problems.
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                                        • #40
                                          I agree, you should go after her for trespassing, since the liability if she does it again could be a major issue. Here's my favorite "unnecessary AC call" story, hopefully it'll make you smile:
                                          http://www.anvilmag.com/humor/yrhraron.htm
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