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  • Thoughts on putting a stallion back to work

    I have recently been offered a stallion that is a Belgian Warmblood. He is a pretty reasonable guy but hasn't been ridden in 4 years. He was schooling 3'6" and doing second level dressage prior to that but his owner broke her back (not related to him) and just stopped with him. He has been hanging out in the field breeding and he has some pretty nice babies on the ground and I have been looking for a project horse for myself. I have finally made the decision that my current mount is not going to be what I need him to be and I don't think it is fair for me to push him to try to be something he is not.

    This guy is more what I'm looking for and I am not sure I am ready to cut him at this time. He hasn't been doing much but hanging out in the field with his mare for the past 4 years but I have been over to her house and done ground work with him and he seems to want to work.

    What is everyone's thoughts on if you can put a stallion back to work after this long of a time off and he be like he was (he was breeding when he was in work back then too) or should I cut him and then start him back?
    Member of the Standardbreds with Saddles Clique!

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    How old is he now?
    "When life gives you scurvy, make lemonade."

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    • #3
      I personally think stallions are better when they are in work. Most of us don't allow them to run over 100s of acres with a mare band, so IMO they emotionally do better with a job to keep them busy. I know I can tell a difference in our stallion when he's not getting enough work. (He's only ridden sporadically since we don't have any decent footing at the farm we are currently renting.)

      I would say go for it. If he seems like he's happy doing the ground work, he's probably going to be happy with the ridden job too.

      Sheila

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      • #4
        If he's throwing nice colts & has a good disposition, why would you cut him?
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        • #5
          If he was a very nice horse before, he is the same horse now, stallion or not.
          Sounds like he would do well in work again.

          Edited to correct the smiley, got the wrong one the first time around.
          Last edited by Bluey; May. 13, 2013, 10:17 AM.

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            #6
            this boy is currently 13.

            The reason I would cut him is that I do want a riding horse for me. My current mount is a stallion and he is going to go back into reining training as he isn't going to be what I want. He has worked his whole life and I have never had to deal with putting one back to work after a long period off.

            This guy is a bit more pushy than my guy but he isn't unreasonable. He is just bigger and has learned over the past couple of years that he can push people around some. He isn't disrespectful he is just pushy.

            I picked him up yesterday and turned him out. I am going to give him a little time to settle into the routine of my place and then see how it goes. I don't really want to cut him but if it comes down to him sitting in the field and not working or getting cut I will cut him.
            Member of the Standardbreds with Saddles Clique!

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            • #7
              Originally posted by cripplecreekfrm View Post
              this boy is currently 13.

              The reason I would cut him is that I do want a riding horse for me. My current mount is a stallion and he is going to go back into reining training as he isn't going to be what I want. He has worked his whole life and I have never had to deal with putting one back to work after a long period off.

              This guy is a bit more pushy than my guy but he isn't unreasonable. He is just bigger and has learned over the past couple of years that he can push people around some. He isn't disrespectful he is just pushy.

              I picked him up yesterday and turned him out. I am going to give him a little time to settle into the routine of my place and then see how it goes. I don't really want to cut him but if it comes down to him sitting in the field and not working or getting cut I will cut him.
              That is different.
              A neighbor had a really nice stallion, he used him as his main cowhorse for some years, then just pasture breeding.
              He was keeping some of his fillies back and breeding to outside stallions now.
              At 16 he gelded him and is now his grandkid's good cowhorse.

              Then, he was always just a very nice horse to live with, excellent disposition.

              Sounds like a good way to manage that horse.
              If he is not needed any more as a stallion, he will be easier to manage as a gelding.

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              • #8
                I agree with Chestnut Run. I think stallions are much happier when they are busy. I've also found that people often think gelding a mature stallion will make them a kid's horse. It usually won't.

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                  I by no means think he will ever be a kids horse, though my current stallion could be one without gelding. This guy is naturally hotter than my other guy but he is be no means mean or out of control. He is just more up, which is why I like him. From a pasture and space management side normally geldings are just easier to deal with. I am going to give him a couple days to settle into the new place and then start him back. I have already decided that I will be doing all the ground work just like he hasn't been started and see what he remembers. I know that stallions are easier to deal with when they are working. I just have never give one this much time off.
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                  • #10
                    Well, since you have experience with stallions, and it sounds like you have the set up for one, why not try him intact and see how he goes? If he's too pushy, geld him. It's much more important for him to be useful than to be breeding.
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by microbovine View Post
                      Well, since you have experience with stallions, and it sounds like you have the set up for one, why not try him intact and see how he goes? If he's too pushy, geld him. It's much more important for him to be useful than to be breeding.
                      That last. ^
                      As this stage in his life, since he is not going to be used to breed any more, he will have a better life as a gelding anyway.

                      The few stallions we had that we quit breeding from were more like 10, as the market wanted different type horses or they were not crossing as well as they should, so we didn't really have any one gelded after ten ourselves.

                      They were fine as geldings, but they had been pastured with them anyway at times, so they were "at home" in those herds.

                      That stallion you are considering has also been outside, is not a hot house flower type show horse.
                      That is on his favor to adjust to life in any herd later, once his hormones have diminished in a few months.

                      Good luck, he sounds like a horse you will enjoy.

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                        I am planning on breeding him to my warmblood mare this year (as soon as she come in next time) as I think they will cross well and I have been trying for a filly forever and keep getting colts. He will add height to my mare is extremely athletic but a little on the smaller side(15.1hh) After that I really don't have any plans on breeding him again but I am not against it. The person I got him from was downsizing her breeding operation. She has some great horses in training from him and all are exactly what I want. As long as he isn't being a PITA to deal with I have no issues with him staying a stallion but everyone at my farm works unless they have a reason to not. I just don't believe in pasture puffs and since I am not trying to make money off breeding him making babies would have to be his secondary job.
                        Member of the Standardbreds with Saddles Clique!

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                        • #13
                          If you are talking breeding him, maybe you could ask these questions in the breeding forum?

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                            I really don't think that him breeding or not has anything to do with going back to work.
                            Member of the Standardbreds with Saddles Clique!

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