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  • Rescued Morgans from PA (Rebecca Roberts found GUILTY)

    Since the other post had gotten a little crazy, I figured I'd start a new thread since this isn't really about the seizure but about the horses who are currently in rescue custody. Specifically, that one of the mares at Gentle Giants gave birth to a filly last night. Apparently they've got four more pregnant mares they're waiting on. I'm glad they're having them in a safe space, as opposed to where they came from.

    There's a picture here. (Facebook link, but it's public so you ought to be able to see it.)
    Last edited by analise; Apr. 10, 2013, 08:09 PM.
    The Trials and Jubilations of a Twenty-Something Re-rider
    Happy owner of Kieran the mostly-white-very-large-not-pony.

  • #2
    Thanks for the update, and well, awwwwww over the cute baby.
    You have to have experiences to gain experience.

    1998 Morgan mare Mythic Feronia "More Valley Girl Than Girl Scout!"

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      #3
      Welcome!

      More pics linked below. Again, all facebook, but should be viewable by anybody.

      More pictures:

      One of the other mares waiting to pop.

      Baby outside and I aim in love with those ears!

      Nursing

      Checking things out. I like how Momma has her ear on baby even while she's eating.

      Napping. d'awwww

      Getting seen by the vet

      With Momma

      Looks so fancy

      Still in love with those ears.
      The Trials and Jubilations of a Twenty-Something Re-rider
      Happy owner of Kieran the mostly-white-very-large-not-pony.

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      • #4
        A friend is fostering some of the others and had a filly born on Good Friday and a colt on Easter.
        Flickr

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        • #5
          Analise, what wonderful pictures!!!!! Thank you so much for sharing the pix, and feel free to share more as they come in!!!

          p.s. on the ears - almost as cute as the bat-ears on our german shepherd when she was a puppy. Still has cute (and big) ears but she grew into them

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            #6
            Hahahaha, so made a mistake. "She" is actually a colt! Uhm. Oops?
            The Trials and Jubilations of a Twenty-Something Re-rider
            Happy owner of Kieran the mostly-white-very-large-not-pony.

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              #7
              There was another new baby just a little while ago this morning:

              https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphot...52723394_n.jpg
              The Trials and Jubilations of a Twenty-Something Re-rider
              Happy owner of Kieran the mostly-white-very-large-not-pony.

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              • #8
                Beautiful pic! Long-legged little thing!

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                  #9
                  Rebecca Roberts of Shadowland Morgans was found GUILTY on all twenty-seven charges of animal cruelty!

                  https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?f...&type=1&ref=nf
                  The Trials and Jubilations of a Twenty-Something Re-rider
                  Happy owner of Kieran the mostly-white-very-large-not-pony.

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                  • #10
                    So glad these horses are with a quality rescue that can give them the care they need!
                    Yo/Yousolong April 23rd, 1985- April 15th, 2014

                    http://notesfromadogwalker.com/2012/...m-a-sanctuary/

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                      #11
                      Here's a news article about it. Bolding is mine.

                      http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/p...f-cruelty.html

                      Harrisburg area horse breeder found guilty on 30 counts of cruelty
                      POSTED: Wednesday, April 10, 2013, 10:54 PM
                      Amy Worden, Inquirer Staff Writer

                      A Harrisburg area horse breeder was found guilty today on 30 counts of animal cruelty after two hours of graphic testimony by veterinarians who examined the horses.

                      Magisterial District Judge Lowell Witmer issued a swift verdict against Rebecca Roberts, a Palmyra attorney and Morgan horse breeder, finding her guilty on all counts involving 29 horses that were seized from her farm four months ago and one found dead among them.

                      "I'm just stunned," he said after hearing testimony from three veterinarians and viewing scores of pictures showing filthy, dangerous conditions in which the sick, wounded and malnourished horses were found and of the carcasses and skeletal remains of six other horses on the property.

                      Witmer said he would not sentence Roberts to jail because "something is very wrong," clearly indicating he felt she had a psychological issue that needed to be addressed,

                      He ordered her to pay $27,638 in restitution to cover the cost of care of the horses. Witmer forbid her from owning or having contact with any animals for seven years and five months and issued a $750 fine.

                      Amy Kaunas, executive director of Humane Society of Harrisburg Area, said she was pleased with the judge's decision, but added with an appeal likely, the case is "far from over."

                      Roberts' attorney, Eric Winter, argued that the humane society failed to follow proper procedure, didn't identify his client as the one responsible for the horses and said they did not prove beyond reasonable doubt that the horses were neglected to the point of facing "imminent death."

                      Humane Society police officer William Sandstrom said that the horses were all suffering the effects of long term neglect.

                      "Each and every one of the horses had something that required veterinary care, problems that were easily treatable," he said.

                      Sandstrom testified that the horses were denied basic food, shelter and vet care. They were kept in a fenced-in area covered knee deep in mud and manure, with no food visible or clean water and a run-in shed on verge of collapse.

                      He said Roberts had allowed stallions and mares and young and old horses to live together and fight for what little forage there was creating a "survival of the fittest" under horrific conditions.


                      When he issued a warning to Roberts in person in December about the need to provide immediate care for her animals she told him the horses were "wild" and didn't need vet care.

                      Sandstrom returned a week later to check on a horse called Holly that he had ordered to be seen by a vet only to find her body in the field. That's when officials obtained the first of two search warrants to remove the horses.


                      Veterinarian Kathryn Papp said the five of the most seriously ill horses removed in the initial raid in late December were emaciated and suffering from untreated wounds that left one horse barely able to stand.

                      The remaining horses were removed Jan. 15 after Roberts failed to respond to demands that she provide adequate care.

                      "People were sinking up to their crotch in mud," recalled Robert Kraybill, a veterinarian who assisted in rounding up the horses."I saw two carcasses under a tarp and skeletal remains in the field."

                      Veterinarians said all of the horses were suffering from an array of maladies stemming from neglect, including parasite infestation, anemia, overgrown hooves, lameness, skin disease and infected wounds.

                      One pregnant mare, called Big Momma, who was rescued, gave birth to a stillborn foal weeks later and then bled to death, the result of malnutrition or infection or both, said Papp.

                      A second foal was still born at Gentle Giants Draft Horse Rescue in Mt. Airy, Md., which took in 21 of the horses, most of them so wild they were unable to be handled for weeks.

                      Three other mares are expecting foals.

                      Winter said he has petitioned Dauphin County Court for the return of the horses and that he will appeal the restitution and likely the guilty ruling as well..

                      "We're fairly certain we will appeal," he said.

                      For Gentle Giants rescue and a number of foster homes that took in horses, that means at least another several months, if not significantly longer, of shouldering the burden of care for the animals and that much longer for them to find permanent homes.
                      The Trials and Jubilations of a Twenty-Something Re-rider
                      Happy owner of Kieran the mostly-white-very-large-not-pony.

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                        double posted
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                        Happy owner of Kieran the mostly-white-very-large-not-pony.

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                        • #13
                          Thank goodness Judge Witmer saw through the protestations of innocence and ignorance and found the owner GUILTY! Of course, the authorities will probably have trouble collecting the money that's owed, but it's a much greater fine than I've seen in other publicized cases.
                          Jingles for the mares who have delivered, and who have yet to deliver!

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                            #14
                            Yeah, I was kind of shocked at the sentence since of the few I've seen, it seemed to actually have at least a bit more 'meat' to it than the others.

                            I'll probably update this again when the other mares deliver. I'm glad they can do it in a safe space and get the care they need as opposed to that cesspool they were in before.
                            The Trials and Jubilations of a Twenty-Something Re-rider
                            Happy owner of Kieran the mostly-white-very-large-not-pony.

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                            • #15
                              Once again, it appears that what could have ended as a happy story is being rewritten by the rescue group. GG has created a veritable firestorm by publicly criticizing the Morgan Horse breed, the breeders, the genetics of the seized horses, etc. Why couldn't they leave well enough alone instead of having to take cheap shots at a very proud breed group? We've seen this before, amazing how history repeats itself!

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                                #16
                                7arabians,

                                Are you the person on the GG facebook page that keeps complaining that GG 'bashed' the horses' bloodlines when all they stated was a fact that many of the horses don't appear to be very well conformed?
                                The Trials and Jubilations of a Twenty-Something Re-rider
                                Happy owner of Kieran the mostly-white-very-large-not-pony.

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                                • #17
                                  Roberts' attorney, Eric Winter, argued that the humane society failed to follow proper procedure, didn't identify his client as the one responsible for the horses and said they did not prove beyond reasonable doubt that the horses were neglected to the point of facing "imminent death."

                                  "Each and every one of the horses had something that required veterinary care, problems that were easily treatable," he said.
                                  GG and its director have never learned.

                                  There is a protocol but GG is too arrogant to follow it.

                                  Every horse on every farm in the U.S. COULD require SOME vet care for some condition whether it be dermatitis, matted mane, a touch of thrush in the wet weather etc.

                                  The GG blogs are AGAIN VILE .

                                  But then...this is what Christine loves about "her work"....

                                  You would think Christine would just learn to shut up and not have minions post

                                  You would think Christine would stop choosing between cash and class

                                  I guess Cash is all she is capable of having

                                  Morgan breeders, while outraged by the alleged conditions have clarldy stated these old Lippet lines are very important to a diminishing genetic opportunity within the breed.

                                  But then, GG wouldn't know anything about that...they are too busy trying to be an authority. Paula is right on with her posts on the forum

                                  She has been a long time breeder and has forgotten more than GG and its group will ever know.

                                  They trashed other breeders however in the past and of course we all remember how she allowed a blog with farm instructions to be posted clearly trying to get someone to go and "teach the old lady a lesson"

                                  GG is NOT a quality act...
                                  The Elephant in the room

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                                  • #18
                                    Ok, I posted this awhile ago on the other thread since this one is supposed to be about the horses in rescue. What happened to only one thread per topic?

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                                    • #19
                                      Originally posted by Fairfax View Post




                                      Morgan breeders, while outraged by the alleged conditions have clarldy stated these old Lippet lines are very important to a diminishing genetic opportunity within the breed.
                                      Just to clarify...Rebecca's horses are not Lippitts.

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                                        #20
                                        The news article about the found guilty thing? I posted it on this one before the older thread got bumped up again because I saw it first on the GG facebook page and because this thread was more recent at that point so I found it easier. Sorry about that.
                                        The Trials and Jubilations of a Twenty-Something Re-rider
                                        Happy owner of Kieran the mostly-white-very-large-not-pony.

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