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  • Originally posted by CFFarm View Post
    Forgive me if this question has been answered (I didn't read further than the first page) and I mean no disrespect for the lady's loss but what is a Fairy Knob?
    I'm not sure I want to know.
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    • *Ahem* here in KY we have many many 17th and 18th century place names using knob. For an example my MIL used to live off of Bald Knob road. It refers to a promontory, a slightly higher hill, and most hills around here are worn down and rounded, so, Knob.

      One can also find lick as a place name, usually refers to a creek and probably came from creeks that tendd to have salt deposits so there is Salt Lick, Paint Lick, and three guesses for the last one.

      Sorta bad when there's sniggering and giggling during a geography lesson.
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      • Originally posted by ReSomething View Post
        *Ahem* here in KY we have many many 17th and 18th century place names using knob. For an example my MIL used to live off of Bald Knob road. It refers to a promontory, a slightly higher hill, and most hills around here are worn down and rounded, so, Knob.

        One can also find lick as a place name, usually refers to a creek and probably came from creeks that tendd to have salt deposits so there is Salt Lick, Paint Lick, and three guesses for the last one.

        Sorta bad when there's sniggering and giggling during a geography lesson.
        Big Bone Lick?


        yes, these days my mind is firmly planted in the gutter....

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        • Originally posted by Caol Ila View Post
          Have read through this thread with some amusement. My main question is, what on earth is a "signature horse" and why is it worth $25,000? Has Clinton trained it to make the coffee? Do laundry? Clean the dishes? I could buy an FEI prospect for that money.
          From my understanding these horses should be able to go in the reining ring now. Which isn't a cheap horse in itself. They are suppose to be well broke, sensitive to aids, have that western headset thing, and should be able to run a reining pattern, head down the trail and cross or go through anything and can jump. Idk but that's what they are suppose to be like. Yes you can buy an FEI prospect for that but these are very well breed qhs with reining and cow lines usually. Not just a mutt qh. He uses nice studs from the Reno ing and cow world and some cost thousands to breed to themselves. So I could see the price being up there. A good reining horse is not cheap by no means.
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          • Originally posted by ReSomething View Post
            *Ahem* here in KY we have many many 17th and 18th century place names using knob. For an example my MIL used to live off of Bald Knob road. It refers to a promontory, a slightly higher hill, and most hills around here are worn down and rounded, so, Knob.

            One can also find lick as a place name, usually refers to a creek and probably came from creeks that tendd to have salt deposits so there is Salt Lick, Paint Lick, and three guesses for the last one.

            Sorta bad when there's sniggering and giggling during a geography lesson.
            We have a Bald Knob Rd here too. I always giggle a little bit when we drive past it. I swear I'm an adult....really.

            Did anybody else scroll down to the story in which Fairy Knob gives the Doc at Texas A&M a hard time because her mare was too skinny after giving birth? She accused them of not feeding her. From what I know, Texas A&M is a fairly well regarded school... and lactating mares DO sometimes drop significant amounts of weight. I wish that it worked the same way with humans (specifically... me).

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            • Originally posted by Superminion View Post
              We have a Bald Knob Rd here too. I always giggle a little bit when we drive past it. I swear I'm an adult....really.
              Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't knob mean penis, ether in the UK or AU? I remember reading an article on words you should not use while abroad, knob and fanny are the 2 that I remember.

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              • Originally posted by ReSomething View Post
                *Ahem* here in KY we have many many 17th and 18th century place names using knob. For an example my MIL used to live off of Bald Knob road. It refers to a promontory, a slightly higher hill, and most hills around here are worn down and rounded, so, Knob.

                One can also find lick as a place name, usually refers to a creek and probably came from creeks that tendd to have salt deposits so there is Salt Lick, Paint Lick, and three guesses for the last one.

                Sorta bad when there's sniggering and giggling during a geography lesson.
                Beaverlick!

                I used to work for the Post Office, and none of use could stop laughing when we saw that city name
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                • Yeah well MissMyst- you would really love it up here. Beaver Lick is right down the road from Big Bone Lick. It's the Beaver Lick Baptist Church that always makes me shake my head... I mean- you don't HAVE to name your church after the town it's in.

                  I have had fleece processed by a very well regarded small custom mill named "Wooly Knob" and the cute logo of the sheep on the hilltop does little to get the other image out of my mind.

                  As for the story of poor Pharoh, I am feeling sadder and sadder for the lady who lost her horse, and I wish that someone had the sense to get the necropsy both for the benefit of the Fresian breeders and so that the tragedy would have more closure.

                  One person we haven't mentioned at all who I am also really feeling for- is the student in training at the CA school who was given some strange horse/horses to train- and they (from what I imagine this was no fault of theirs) just drew the short straw and had the misfortune of having this happen on their watch. Can you imagine if you had dreamed and saved to do this big thing in your life and then to have it marred with such a tragedy?

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                  • Originally posted by Superminion View Post
                    We have a Bald Knob Rd here too. I always giggle a little bit when we drive past it. I swear I'm an adult....really.
                    That's OK. There's a Deepwood Drive on the way to the barn and I get the giggles from that. I would certainly chuckle about Bald Knob and Beaver Lick.

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                    • Originally posted by Plainandtall View Post
                      One person we haven't mentioned at all who I am also really feeling for- is the student in training at the CA school who was given some strange horse/horses to train- and they (from what I imagine this was no fault of theirs) just drew the short straw and had the misfortune of having this happen on their watch. Can you imagine if you had dreamed and saved to do this big thing in your life and then to have it marred with such a tragedy?
                      Depending on how it went down no I have 0 sympathy for them. Hobbling a horse that's never been hobbled before and then walking away is really really not okay. When you are a newbie trainer you shouldn't be turned loose to hurt horses. If I found out who that student was that left my horse hobbled for the first time unsupervised I would indeed have some really strong words for them. Now I know &^%& happens to the best of us under the best circumstances but ignorance or willful neglect is unforgivable.
                      If however you turn horse out to graze and come back a couple hours later to a dead horse of no apparent reason that would definitely deserve some sympathy.

                      Oh and just to set the record straight I would never have CA or any of the NH "professionals" anywhere near my horse much less pay to have them train it.
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                      What serious breeder would think that a horse at that performance level is push button? Even so, that's still a lot of buttons to push.

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                      • The horse had already been there for two weeks before he died- I really doubt that if hobbling was part of the curriculum, that they would wait two weeks to introduce it. I think "turned loose to hurt horses" is a pretty harsh distilling of what they were doing.

                        Imagine another training barn scenario... only this is a dressage facility and you have three horses to excercise- between working them you put them in their stall. After working the third horse you discover the first horse dead in its stall...

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                        • Do we know it was the first time it was hobbled?
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                          • There's also Grandpa's Knob in VT. Just ewwwww.

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                            • Anything with the word "squaw" in it. Locally, a road's name was changed to drop that word. It's now "Bliss Road".

                              From reading about the lady, I tend to think she's not matured very much, even if she's a granny. From the sounds of her posts, she's a bit in the clouds and her hubby and family let her stay there. Whatever floats your boat but, in my experience, when you turn these folks out into the general public, they expect the world to be fairy f*rts and gauzy butterflies. People who I wouldn't get on with, in other words.
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                              • Originally posted by 4cornersfarm View Post
                                The thing is, these kind of people will just eat this up. They like to be treated as inferior, they like their idols to be cranky. It just makes him all the more untouchable.
                                Good point. I'm cranky because I'm getting up in years and hurt everywhere, Advil is my friend. But I appreciate a frankness when I'm talking with others. Say what you mean and mean what you say has been done to death, but it's what I like in myself and others. Cut to the chase but don't have to be angry about it. Get to the point. This HO would drive me bats, even if it weren't horses we had in common. Still, you nailed the description.
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                                • Originally posted by hundredacres View Post
                                  Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't knob mean penis, ether in the UK or AU? I remember reading an article on words you should not use while abroad, knob and fanny are the 2 that I remember.
                                  It does indeed

                                  Although my gelding is affectionately known as Knobber, term of endearment, honestly.
                                  I know that what you call fanny-packs is a source of amusement for a lot of us Brits, and I recently came across a line of (American?) bags called 'Slappa' which made me laugh as here a Slapper is a word for a girl with dubious morals


                                  Got to say, I was surprised this story turned out to be true, I wouldn't have been at all surprised if it was a complete fantasy from start to finish. Also surprised (and a little disappointed) at the lack of entertaining house guests.

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                                  • My observation is that CA believes hard work does not hurt a horse.

                                    A good horseman knows where conditioning work or training sessions should stop and allow the horse to recover.

                                    A good horseman also knows when heat inversion or mental melt-down is imminent.

                                    A good horseman also takes steps to mitigate those possible situations.
                                    Water, bathing, walking a horse until heart and temp return to normal are all part of good horsemanship trainng.

                                    Do accidents happen and horses die even where intelligent care and proper conditioning is carried out? Sometimes.

                                    Creating circumstances that predispose to 'accidents' is a whole different scenario: sort of like throwing novice drivers in a factory sportscar and telling them to take deadman's curve at 65 mph -because seasoned racing drivers in modified and tuned machines can do it at 90.

                                    And I am saddened that the owner appeared to want the 'gumption' taken out of her horse by aggressive exhaustion means, she knows so little about training animals if she feels this is going to give her a tractable, willing horse SHE can handle. Fairyland, indeed.
                                    Where is the boot camp for owner/riders to get fit and learn to manage their horses?

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                                    • Did anyone see the horse article which said the horses in old time paintings were 'trolloping'?? HA!! People were responding like, yeah, trolloping it is!! So, me being me, posted at least one link, might have been two, about what a trollop is. So, by trolloping, isn't that the verb? Implying, erm, 'action'?
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                                      • Originally posted by Midge View Post
                                        Do we know it was the first time it was hobbled?
                                        If so, I don't know how the COTHer got to this conclusion.
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                                        • Originally posted by D_BaldStockings View Post
                                          Where is the boot camp for owner/riders to get fit and learn to manage their horses?
                                          Excellent point. A large majority of the time, it’s the owner that needs the boot camp, not the horse. It usually is the owner that has allowed bad behavior to continue until it becomes a problem. It is the owner that does not have the skills or knowledge to school the horse and train / reinforce proper behavior.

                                          Also, do these horse owners think you train a horse once, and it sticks forever? Most horses quickly realize that the owner does not know what they are doing, and revert to their naughty habits – unless the owner actually has the skills needed to make every ride count, and stay consistent with the training the horse received.

                                          I have NEVER “sent a horse off to training” but I have ridden in more lessons that I can estimate. Never really understood this mentality.
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