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    So I was wondering if anyone knows anything about theses bloodlines or breeder. I just am not familiar with app bloodlines only QH and Arab.
    My guy was bred in SC by Gray Shadow Farm.
    He has one full brother named GS Freckles Cowboy.
    Dad is Marshalls Freckles seen here
    http://grayshadow.homestead.com/pedcowgirl.html
    Dad is 15.1
    Mom is WA Ulrich Cowgirl seen here http://grayshadow.homestead.com/pedcowgirl.html
    Can't figure out how that created my 16.2 giant!
    Last edited by aucowwy; Feb. 17, 2013, 02:59 AM.
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    Sire has lots of solid foundation appy names I recognize!

    You might enjoy a poke around this site:

    www.appaloosaterritory.com

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    • #3
      I have a foundation bred Appy...27 years old and he's 16.1...a full hand higher than his sire or dam. Good feed and worming program?
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      • #4
        There were some pretty tall horses a couple of generations back, too. Solar Flair Eclat for instance was supposed to be 17 hands, and he was Rockledge breeding, which OP, appears in your boy's pedigree.

        My foundation appy is a good 16.1, and built like a tank. He's a Solar Flair Eclat grandson.

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          Originally posted by aucowwy View Post
          Mom is WA Ulrich Cowgirl seen herehttp://grayshadow.homestead.com/pedcowgirl.html
          Can't figure out how that created my 16.2 giant!

          The dam's blood lines are pretty impecable (at least to me). WA was a prefix used by Hank Wiescamp (sp?), who knew a thing or two about breeding a good using horse.
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            What were these lines used for? Anything big/ champions close up? Seems though his sire's side had a lot of leopard apps.
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              I am wondering how big mom was. She does not look too big
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                Sires dam, Mac Marshall Memory, is 16 hands. Here is a photo of her taken in November 2012. The rider (and owner) is 5' 10".
                http://www.facebook.com/#!/photo.php...type=3&theater

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                  Originally posted by appdream View Post
                  Sires dam, Mac Marshall Memory, is 16 hands. Here is a photo of her taken in November 2012. The rider (and owner) is 5' 10".
                  http://www.facebook.com/#!/photo.php...type=3&theater
                  For some reason I can't get the pic to upload. But that would explain the height, I figured it must have skipped a generation. When I went to look at him my first question was if he was part TB!
                  Well I found Mom http://www.leopardappaloosa.com/broodmare.htm
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                    Here is a link to the owner's website. Mac Marshall Memory (Emmy) is on the mare page, along with her daughter, Wap's Shelby. You will find photos of other get out of her, too.

                    http://www.daveyfarm.com/contactus.html

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                    • #11
                      I own your horses granddam, already mentioned Mac Marshall Memory. I can't speak for the other horses in the pedigree, but she is the kindest mare. That photo of her is this fall nearing the age of 19, and having had 10 foals. She is likely retired from breeding at this point, though maybe just one more! Her foals are all correct, sound, and highly trainable/rideable.
                      Davey Farm Sport Horses
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                        Oh, and where are the pictures of your horse?! Would love to see him.
                        Davey Farm Sport Horses
                        Hamburg, PA
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                        • #13
                          I still wonder how a 13.1 hand POA stud and a 12.2 hand POA mare could produce a POA that made it to 15 hands.

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                            http://grayshadow.homestead.com/newhomes.html
                            He is GS Freckles Justice- I do not have an uploaded pic of him
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                              He's very handsome !

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                                The Ulrich horses tend to run to leopard and are smaller. Not familiar with the other line in the pedigree. On that web page, though, I see a Four Mile line horse: Chief of Four Mile (half TB) was the horse that got me interested in Appies. The Toby, Confetti (Bear Paw) and WAP (Wapiti/Thistle Britches) lines run to bigger horses. My horse's grandsire is Choclate Confetti of the Bear Paw line, and he was 16.3 and in the 90th percentile of Foundation blood.

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                                  I did see that he had a lot of leopard apps in his bloodlines. I guess I always thought of appaloosas as being shorter like most stock horses. When I first went to look at him I swore he was part TB. I have looked and he has nothing but appaloosas in his bloodlines. I do think there is a QH way back.
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                                  • #18
                                    Your guy is lovely! My foundation app, now deceased, had similar lines. I'd heard from an App person, that the "Navajo" lines produce tall and fast, and in fact Domino (my guy) was bred to race, but ended up being a phenomenal dressage horse -- he could jump the moon too (jumping was his first career). Similarly, Dom was tall, 16.3, and built like a tank.

                                    http://s1256.beta.photobucket.com/us...omino.jpg.html
                                    http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/domino+effect3

                                    Like with many breeds, there are differences in type based on lineage. Some Apps are bred to race, others are stock horses, and still others are sport horses.
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                                      He is very pretty- what color would you call that- a varnish?
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                                        He is very pretty- what color would you call that- a varnish?
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