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  • #21
    Originally posted by GotGait View Post
    About halfway through, she kicks the horse in the side. I have no idea what she was trying to teach, and neither does that poor horse. Congrats, idiot owner. You had a nice, quiet horse standing relaxed on the lead. Now you have a headshy, reactive horse who is afraid of the lead.
    I especially like how she seems to randomly stop jerking the lead rope and then starts jerking on the rope again. From the horse's point of view, he was standing quietly and not doing anything. Then a crazy human comes up, starts jerking the rope. She stops and he thinks she's done, then she starts jerking the rope again. He cannot figure out what she wants because SHE doesn't seem to know what she wants.

    Poor horse. AND she's teaching her 'student' to just randomly jerk on the leadrope, too. Argh.
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    • #22
      What was the goal here? That seems to be common with Parelli and Parelli-esque NH. There's lots of rope shaking and smacking the horse, but I can never tell what they're trying to do. Too bad the horse can never figure it out, either.
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      • #23
        Originally posted by Old Mac Donald View Post

        This chick is apparently hosting a clinic, tries to do a demo with a horse who appears a bit confused/stuck, and just loses her cool with him. Yikes!

        Anyone know any more about this?
        She's affraid of horses and thinks the only way to handle them is being master of them.
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        • #24
          Clueless. That horse will be a NH robot in no time.

          Ray would not have much nice to say about that situation...

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          • #25
            Originally posted by 7HL View Post
            She's affraid of horses and thinks the only way to handle them is being master of them.

            Maybe she should go back to Parelli. I bet she could be a 1* in no time.

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            • #26
              She is lucky that is a very kind horse. She's going to be in for a real surprise one of these days.

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              • #27
                The rope halter is NOT the issue there ...
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                • #28
                  No, the rope halter is not the issue here, it's the female on the end of the lead.

                  This is what is so disturbing to me. I see people bopping their horses, horses with heads up in the air, confused horses but the owners don't want to listen to real horse sense, they saw it in a DVD and they KNOW that's how it's done. No reading of the horse at all. Even my shoer has complained to me when he's under a horse, the owner is doing something to the horse's head. Or he has to stop and the owner has to wiggle the lead rope for some perceived slight the horse did, which means he has to take more time.

                  So, the place started out with the Peps 'method' and now have moved on to real horsemanship? One has to wonder about the place in the first place if they fell for this at all. They do have a nice arena, it looks like...
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                  • #29
                    The comments on the video I posted are priceless. People keep saying how the woman in the video is using the method wrong...
                    Hello people, wake up! That IS Linda Parelli at the end of that lead rope!!!
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                    • #30
                      Originally posted by airhorse View Post
                      Maybe she should go back to Parelli. I bet she could be a 1* in no time.
                      Just because she using a rope halter doesn't mean she is using "Parelli".

                      Maybe she's "classically" or "formally" trained.... she just looks clueless and afraid of the horse.
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                      • #31
                        Originally posted by 7HL View Post
                        Just because she using a rope halter doesn't mean she is using "Parelli".

                        Maybe she's "classically" or "formally" trained.... she just looks clueless and afraid of the horse.
                        Yep, Pep's!! It's the same look the Pep-lovers around here have....

                        (I was wondering when this show was going to get rolling...)
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                        • #32
                          She wiggles rope. Calm horse is like "???". Instead of helping the horse understand what she wants, she goes off like a monkey with a gun. No feel or timing. Now, not only is the horse still confused, he's also reactive and head shy. Fun.
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                          • #33
                            I can get my horse to back up with a wiggle of the rope - a small wiggle, not a swing/fling/swat/kick. I can also just say "back".

                            I'm sorry, but the people in those videos are pathetic. And I understand that the person in Bearcat's video IS Linda? Wow. My gelding would have taken both of those people out with a couple of strikes. No, I don't approve of that behavior but he takes poor/unjust treatment as an insult and will react accordingly.
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                            • #34
                              Those people paid to go to that clinic? That nice horse has to go back to an owner that doesn't even know when a horse is being abused. He should have stepped up.
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                              • #35
                                According to her website,she was "trained" at La Cense which I am sure our resident expert in all things Parelli is familiar with.

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                                • #36
                                  Look more like a Clintonite than a Parellite.

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                                  • #37
                                    OMGOSH this was just awful, I watched the whole thing but it was hard doing it. That poor horse!!! what a great attitude it had though. If I was a horse I would have kicked her back.
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                                    • #38
                                      Both of those videos had me then and finally

                                      How can someone...ANYONE...watch that and think its offers any sort of helpful training to the horse AT ALL??!!
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                                      • #39
                                        Abuse is abuse, no matter how much revenue it brings in or how you try to call it what it isn't.

                                        Actually you can learn quite a bit from a good video, especially if it is combined with a real trainer watching you attempt what is shown and correcting and explaining as you go.

                                        This is just sadistic. Whether it 'works' or not. That is not a reason to use a horrible method; always one looks for the BEST way to get the job done.

                                        Only people who don't know about can openers use a firecracker to open a can of beans and tout their method as miraculous; unless they are in the firecracker business, that is.

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                                        • #40
                                          Two dopes at the end of a rope.
                                          DD's horse would have kicked her right into next week. She is not a mean mare but she also does not tolerate stupidity.

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