• Welcome to the Chronicle Forums.
    Please complete your profile. The forums and the rest of www.chronofhorse.com has single sign-in, so your log in information for one will automatically work for the other. Disclaimer: The opinions expressed here are the views of the individual and do not necessarily reflect the views and opinions of The Chronicle of the Horse.



Forum rules and no-advertising policy

As a participant on this forum, it is your responsibility to know and follow our rules. Please read this message in its entirety.

Board Rules

1. You’re responsible for what you say.
As outlined in Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act, The Chronicle of the Horse and its affiliates, as well Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd., the developers of vBulletin, are not legally responsible for statements made in the forums.

This is a public forum viewed by a wide spectrum of people, so please be mindful of what you say and who might be reading it—details of personal disputes are likely better handled privately. While posters are legally responsible for their statements, the moderators may in their discretion remove or edit posts that violate these rules. Users have the ability to modify or delete their own messages after posting, but administrators generally will not delete posts, threads or accounts upon request.

Outright inflammatory, vulgar, harassing, malicious or otherwise inappropriate statements and criminal charges unsubstantiated by a reputable news source or legal documentation will not be tolerated and will be dealt with at the discretion of the moderators.

2. Conversations in horse-related forums should be horse-related.
The forums are a wonderful source of information and support for members of the horse community. While it’s understandably tempting to share information or search for input on other topics upon which members might have a similar level of knowledge, members must maintain the focus on horses.

3. Keep conversations productive, on topic and civil.
Discussion and disagreement are inevitable and encouraged; personal insults, diatribes and sniping comments are unproductive and unacceptable. Whether a subject is light-hearted or serious, keep posts focused on the current topic and of general interest to other participants of that thread. Utilize the private message feature or personal email where appropriate to address side topics or personal issues not related to the topic at large.

4. No advertising in the discussion forums.
Posts in the discussion forums directly or indirectly advertising horses, jobs, items or services for sale or wanted will be removed at the discretion of the moderators. Use of the private messaging feature or email addresses obtained through users’ profiles for unsolicited advertising is not permitted.

Company representatives may participate in discussions and answer questions about their products or services, or suggest their products on recent threads if they fulfill the criteria of a query. False "testimonials" provided by company affiliates posing as general consumers are not appropriate, and self-promotion of sales, ad campaigns, etc. through the discussion forums is not allowed.

Paid advertising is available on our classifieds site and through the purchase of banner ads. The tightly monitored Giveaways forum permits free listings of genuinely free horses and items available or wanted (on a limited basis). Items offered for trade are not allowed.

Advertising Policy Specifics
When in doubt of whether something you want to post constitutes advertising, please contact a moderator privately in advance for further clarification. Refer to the following points for general guidelines:

Horses – Only general discussion about the buying, leasing, selling and pricing of horses is permitted. If the post contains, or links to, the type of specific information typically found in a sales or wanted ad, and it’s related to a horse for sale, regardless of who’s selling it, it doesn’t belong in the discussion forums.

Stallions – Board members may ask for suggestions on breeding stallion recommendations. Stallion owners may reply to such queries by suggesting their own stallions, only if their horse fits the specific criteria of the original poster. Excessive promotion of a stallion by its owner or related parties is not permitted and will be addressed at the discretion of the moderators.

Services – Members may use the forums to ask for general recommendations of trainers, barns, shippers, farriers, etc., and other members may answer those requests by suggesting themselves or their company, if their services fulfill the specific criteria of the original post. Members may not solicit other members for business if it is not in response to a direct, genuine query.

Products – While members may ask for general opinions and suggestions on equipment, trailers, trucks, etc., they may not list the specific attributes for which they are in the market, as such posts serve as wanted ads.

Event Announcements – Members may post one notification of an upcoming event that may be of interest to fellow members, if the original poster does not benefit financially from the event. Such threads may not be “bumped” excessively. Premium members may post their own notices in the Event Announcements forum.

Charities/Rescues – Announcements for charitable or fundraising events can only be made for 501(c)(3) tax-exempt organizations. Special exceptions may be made, at the moderators’ discretion and direction, for board-related events or fundraising activities in extraordinary circumstances.

Occasional posts regarding horses available for adoption through IRS-registered horse rescue or placement programs are permitted in the appropriate forums, but these threads may be limited at the discretion of the moderators. Individuals may not advertise or make announcements for horses in need of rescue, placement or adoption unless the horse is available through a recognized rescue or placement agency or government-run entity or the thread fits the criteria for and is located in the Giveaways forum.

5. Do not post copyrighted photographs unless you have purchased that photo and have permission to do so.

6. Respect other members.
As members are often passionate about their beliefs and intentions can easily be misinterpreted in this type of environment, try to explore or resolve the inevitable disagreements that arise in the course of threads calmly and rationally.

If you see a post that you feel violates the rules of the board, please click the “alert” button (exclamation point inside of a triangle) in the bottom left corner of the post, which will alert ONLY the moderators to the post in question. They will then take whatever action, or no action, as deemed appropriate for the situation at their discretion. Do not air grievances regarding other posters or the moderators in the discussion forums.

Please be advised that adding another user to your “Ignore” list via your User Control Panel can be a useful tactic, which blocks posts and private messages by members whose commentary you’d rather avoid reading.

7. We have the right to reproduce statements made in the forums.
The Chronicle of the Horse may copy, quote, link to or otherwise reproduce posts, or portions of posts, in print or online for advertising or editorial purposes, if attributed to their original authors, and by posting in this forum, you hereby grant to The Chronicle of the Horse a perpetual, non-exclusive license under copyright and other rights, to do so.

8. We reserve the right to enforce and amend the rules.
The moderators may delete, edit, move or close any post or thread at any time, or refrain from doing any of the foregoing, in their discretion, and may suspend or revoke a user’s membership privileges at any time to maintain adherence to the rules and the general spirit of the forum. These rules may be amended at any time to address the current needs of the board.

Please see our full Terms of Service and Privacy Policy for more information.

Thanks for being a part of the COTH forums!

(Revised 1/26/16)
See more
See less

Conspiracy theory or true?

This topic is closed.
  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts

  • #41
    Hey! There's my little green friend! Good one B!
    Courageous Weenie Eventer Wannabe
    Incredible Invisible


    • Original Poster

      Originally posted by Daydream Believer View Post
      You are aware that snopes is not an unbiased site aren't you? A simple google search will turn up plenty of sources on that one. Factcheck.org is another one of similar leanings.

      Not saying your above info is wrong but I don't use snopes anymore for that reason. I recall an article from somewhere on Obama's executive orders and how often he's done it to bypass the Congress rather than negotiate with them.
      A comparison of Executive Orders by the last few Presidents:

      Reagan Term 1: 213
      Reagan Term 2: 168

      George H.W. Bush: Term 1: 166

      Bill Clinton Term 1: 200
      Bill Clinton Term 2: 164

      George W. Bush Term 1: 173
      George W. Bush Term 2: 118

      Barack Obama Term 1: 144

      If you go back and look, almost all presidents (William Henry Harrison is the only exception) issued Executive Orders.

      I'm still hearing crickets from my "friend".


      • #43
        Originally posted by Daydream Believer View Post

        Not saying your above info is wrong but I don't use snopes anymore for that reason. I recall an article from somewhere on Obama's executive orders and how often he's done it to bypass the Congress rather than negotiate with them.
        If you wish to do some major research on Executive Orders (an interesting topic, in and of itself, in how governance in this country functions), look at:




        Executive Orders are designed to deal mainly with Administrative issues, while Congress deals with Laws. Congress may pass a Law to establish something, but the signing of an Executive Order to instruct a government agency to do that something is how most of the government's work gets authorized and done. Remember this little detail: government agencies and workers may do only those things Which Are Specifically Allowed / Permitted / Authorized. In the private / commercial sector, people and organizations may do whatever they want, so long as it is Not Specifically Forbidden by law or regulation. Knowing which type of entity you are dealing with and knowing how to research the rules that govern it is part of being an informed citizen.

        "Avoid loud and aggressive persons, they are vexations to the spirit."
        - Desiderata, (c) Max Ehrman, 1926


        • #44
          Originally posted by Bluey View Post
          Well, our sheriff, that happens to be our closest neighbor, has our lock code in his files already.
          So does the fire and EMT services, so does the USDA offices and they are all welcome to come in any time they need to.

          Any one other found trespassing WILL be prosecuted to the full extent of the law.
          Even little, short legged green men with big eyes and funny hands.
          What? You won't allow family in?!!


          • #45
            Originally posted by Alagirl View Post
            What? You won't allow family in?!!

            Only born again martians:
            Attached Files


            • Original Poster

              Originally posted by Bluey View Post
              Only born again martians:


              • #47
                Originally posted by clanter View Post
                was looking at the line items of Homeland Security's budget and there was an interesting section regarding horses...

                6 USC Sec. 453c 01/03/2012 (112-90)

                TITLE 6 - DOMESTIC SECURITY
                GENERAL PROVISIONS
                Part H - Miscellaneous Provisions

                Sec. 453c. Disposition of equines unfit for service

                None of the funds made available in this or any other Act for
                fiscal year 2012 and thereafter may be used to destroy or put out
                to pasture any horse or other equine belonging to any component or
                agency of the Department of Homeland Security that has become unfit
                for service, unless the trainer or handler is first given the
                option to take possession of the equine through an adoption program
                that has safeguards against slaughter and inhumane treatment.
                Well, I'm glad we've got THAT all cleared up!


                • #48
                  I'm pretty sure that refers to the CBP horses that are used along the south-western borders.
                  Thus do we growl that our big toes have, at this moment, been thrown up from below!


                  • #49
                    She's whacked. If she has a Federal Firearms License (FFL) She has to allow the BATFE to inspect her "licensed store"...they can't poke around the farm, just the store.

                    Sounds nuts.
                    "Sic Gorgiamus Allos Subjectatos Nunc"


                    • #50
                      Everyone knows it is best to grow marijuana in with the corn rows.


                      • #51
                        Originally posted by invinoveritas View Post
                        Everyone knows it is best to grow marijuana in with the corn rows.
                        I figured Okra...


                        • #52
                          Originally posted by invinoveritas View Post
                          Everyone knows it is best to grow marijuana in with the corn rows.
                          Courageous Weenie Eventer Wannabe
                          Incredible Invisible


                          • #53
                            I got that agriculture census also, and it's quite scary. On the front page it says if you don't send in the completed form by "such and such" date you will keep recieving forms. OMG, I can for see my mailbox being stuffed with forms that I've been ignoring until it overflows, and then my neighbors turn me in for littering, and then the cops show up.

                            OP, I believe it is a conspiracy
                            "Everyone will start to cheer, when you put on your sailin shoes"-Lowell George


                            • #54
                              The DHS/ICE/Border Patrol horses are government property, and are protected from simply being disposed of (auctioned or slaughter) without the trainer/rider is allowed to adopt first. They have the same provisions for Military Working Dogs, so they get adopted when possible when they can serve any longer.

                              There are a lot of reasons the government can come on your property, and if you get government subsidies, operate certain businesses, have to fulfill food production or other public health regs I want you to be inspected. Things like contaminated food can kill you, and e-coli and Salmonella have killed and sickened a lot of people in recent years. So just wear your tin foil hat when the inspector comes by, and it'll be fine.
                              You can't fix stupid-Ron White


                              • #55
                                I needed my tin-foil hat on just to fill out that damn "census." Jeez Louise, the stuff they wanted to know! They get a little personal, if you ask me. Now stop and consider that they probably detail one geek to Google-Earth your place and make sure the head-count's accurate on your survey . . .

                                Friend of mine says what's next is a microchip in the back of your neck; with a self-destruct switch for people who won't Play Nice with Big Brother.


                                • #56
                                  Originally posted by invinoveritas View Post
                                  Everyone knows it is best to grow marijuana in with the corn rows.
                                  Around here, tomatoes. Some even hang red Christmas tree balls from the plants. And one brilliant druggie used glass ones. The narcs said it was like a field of red spotlights when their 'chopper flew over. Non Compost Mentis.
                                  The inherent vice of Capitalism is the unequal sharing of blessings. The inherent virtue of Socialism is the equal sharing of miseries.
                                  Winston Churchill


                                  • #57
                                    All right, kids, since this thread has a very slim grasp on horse-related from the beginning and has devolved from there, I think it's time to bid it goodnight.

                                    No, this wasn't a conspiracy.

                                    Mod 3