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  • <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by ser42:
    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Sannois:
    I swore I would not do this, But I have a hard time understanding why anyone would vote for someone that said we need to get back to a time when terrorism was just a nuissance... Like Gambling and Prostitution! Donna You are quite impressive. You keep your cool in a sea of Liberals! I am very impressed! <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

    I am tired of correcting the Bush campaign's spin... but Kerry didn't say this. He said he thought we could REDUCE it to a policing issue such as gambling and prostitution- not that it CURRENTLY is a "nuisance" or should be viewed as such. Ugh. You can see why Bush's campaign was so successful. People just ate it up without doing their own research. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

    ser42-I believe you just restated what Sannois said. Kerry said he would reduce it back to when it was just a "nuisance". Sannois didn't say Kerry said it was currently a nuisance.

    Now, please enlighten me...when was terrorism just a nuisance?

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    • Um, no- he didn't say there was a time when terrorists were just a nuisance. He said, "We have to get back to the place we were, where terrorists are not the focus of our lives but they're a nuisance." I think the point was we have to get back to a time when we aren't constantly fearing terrorists- a fear that is their goal. The "nuisance" remark I took to mean that he hopes we can become on top of it enough to a point at which terrorists are no longer seen as such a huge threat to our safety. "They're" is present tense, not past. I guess it's just semantics. I don't really think he thinks it's a uisance or should be treated as such.

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      • <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by ser42:
        Um, no- he didn't say there was a time when terrorists were just a nuisance. He said, "We have to get back to the place we were, where terrorists are not the focus of our lives but they're a nuisance." <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

        So what you are saying is that when Kerry said nuisance, he didn't really mean nuisance?

        I agree, it seems to be semantics. Obviously many people disagree on how to take his remarks.

        BTW, I'm not picking a fight here. I've already been attacked by an angry Swiss (boy, that sounds weird ) today I think I'll just go out and play with my horses now.

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        • Don't worry, no fight will happen here, I'm just trying to point out that statements taken out of context and spun by another campaign can be made to seem much more inflammatory than they really are. Like I said, I think he was making a point that he wanted to reduce terrorism to a level where it is not at the forefront of everyone's mind... wouldn't it be great if it WAS only a nuisance because they weren't a real threat? But of course he takes it seriously! Again, semantics...

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          • Well it looks as though the evangelical Christians have taken America. We deserve what we get. The only thing I can take solace in is that I live in my little bubble of intellectual and progressive thinkers. I really do wish CA could become it's own country.
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            • Lots of folks wish CA could become it's own little country.........
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              • Many of us in other blue states would like to join CA

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                • If CA become its own country, I'd move back there It currently pays, what, a little over $2 in federal taxes for every $1 it gets back in federal monies???? Just think what it could do if it wasn't propping up a bunch of poor states.

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                  • Well, I'm sure that CA would feel "the more the merrier", and would welcome all with open arms.

                    Hypothetically perhaps, with CA as a country, those who feel so desperately disenfranchised these days would feel less so.....
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                    • News reports that Kerry has conceded.
                      [i]\"He is your friend, your partner, your defender, your dog. You are his life, his love, his leader. He will be yours, faithful and true, to the last beat of his heart. You owe it to him to be wo

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                      • <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> Well, I'm sure that CA would feel "the more the merrier", and would welcome all with open arms.

                        Hypothetically perhaps, with CA as a country, those who feel so desperately disenfranchised these days would feel less so..... <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

                        as the remainder of the country's economy stagnates without CA influence (6th largest economy in the world)
                        See those flying monkeys? They work for me.

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                        • No need to at me.... I didn't initiate the CA secession theory.....
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                          • <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by JulieMontgomery:
                            No need to at me.... I didn't initiate the CA secession theory..... <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

                            It's ok, I did! And I think we should bring Oregon and Washington along with us. Maybe just join Canada?
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                            • Don't forget NY. We have a pretty big impact on the global economy & we're about as blue as they come.

                              (There was an article in NY magazine a few months ago rationally discussing NYC seceding & becoming a nation unto itself. Very interesting. And yes, we send a lot more money to Washington than we get back.)
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                              • <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> (There was an article in NY magazine a few months ago rationally discussing NYC seceding & becoming a nation unto itself. Very interesting. And yes, we send a lot more money to Washington than we get back.) <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

                                How odd... NC sends money and gets very little back as well - and we are as RED as they come! Where does this money go - probably the swing states.
                                The witchy witch witch of south central NC.

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                                • BTW did any of you pay attention to these vote results?? I would have to say it is very, very scarey to see that people who live there vote like this http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/elections/2004/dc/
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                                  • Which part is scary... that DC voted 90 percent for Kerry, or that they actually put Marion Barry back into public office?

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                                    • For your reading pleasure - the complete article about NYC seceding.
                                      NYC Secession Article

                                      And the dollars & cents issue: "If New Yorkers didn’t support the rest of the country with their tax dollars, perhaps they’d feel less insulted by outsiders’ contempt. But at the moment, depending on whose figures you choose to believe, the city sends between $6.5 billion (City Council estimate) and $11.4 billion (the mayor’s office) more to the federal government than it receives in services, making the snubs we regularly get from Congress feel uncomfortably reminiscent of taxation without representation, a condition that has had ominous consequences before"
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                                      • Shoot, if you would let Texas cecede, then the Republicans would lose a bunch of electoral votes. We already have all of our own resources and coastline. We just needed help defending against Mexico. I say if anyone cecedes, we get to go first, because we're the biggest.
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                                        • Here's the case for California

                                          Erin, I just thought it interesting that 90% of people in DC would want GWB out of the White House and their city.
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