• Welcome to the Chronicle Forums.
    Please complete your profile. The forums and the rest of www.chronofhorse.com has single sign-in, so your log in information for one will automatically work for the other. Disclaimer: The opinions expressed here are the views of the individual and do not necessarily reflect the views and opinions of The Chronicle of the Horse.

Announcement

Collapse

Forum rules and no-advertising policy

As a participant on this forum, it is your responsibility to know and follow our rules. Please read this message in its entirety.

Board Rules

1. You’re responsible for what you say.
As outlined in Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act, The Chronicle of the Horse and its affiliates, as well Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd., the developers of vBulletin, are not legally responsible for statements made in the forums.

This is a public forum viewed by a wide spectrum of people, so please be mindful of what you say and who might be reading it—details of personal disputes are likely better handled privately. While posters are legally responsible for their statements, the moderators may in their discretion remove or edit posts that violate these rules. Users have the ability to modify or delete their own messages after posting, but administrators generally will not delete posts, threads or accounts upon request.

Outright inflammatory, vulgar, harassing, malicious or otherwise inappropriate statements and criminal charges unsubstantiated by a reputable news source or legal documentation will not be tolerated and will be dealt with at the discretion of the moderators.

2. Conversations in horse-related forums should be horse-related.
The forums are a wonderful source of information and support for members of the horse community. While it’s understandably tempting to share information or search for input on other topics upon which members might have a similar level of knowledge, members must maintain the focus on horses.

3. Keep conversations productive, on topic and civil.
Discussion and disagreement are inevitable and encouraged; personal insults, diatribes and sniping comments are unproductive and unacceptable. Whether a subject is light-hearted or serious, keep posts focused on the current topic and of general interest to other participants of that thread. Utilize the private message feature or personal email where appropriate to address side topics or personal issues not related to the topic at large.

4. No advertising in the discussion forums.
Posts in the discussion forums directly or indirectly advertising horses, jobs, items or services for sale or wanted will be removed at the discretion of the moderators. Use of the private messaging feature or email addresses obtained through users’ profiles for unsolicited advertising is not permitted.

Company representatives may participate in discussions and answer questions about their products or services, or suggest their products on recent threads if they fulfill the criteria of a query. False "testimonials" provided by company affiliates posing as general consumers are not appropriate, and self-promotion of sales, ad campaigns, etc. through the discussion forums is not allowed.

Paid advertising is available on our classifieds site and through the purchase of banner ads. The tightly monitored Giveaways forum permits free listings of genuinely free horses and items available or wanted (on a limited basis). Items offered for trade are not allowed.

Advertising Policy Specifics
When in doubt of whether something you want to post constitutes advertising, please contact a moderator privately in advance for further clarification. Refer to the following points for general guidelines:

Horses – Only general discussion about the buying, leasing, selling and pricing of horses is permitted. If the post contains, or links to, the type of specific information typically found in a sales or wanted ad, and it’s related to a horse for sale, regardless of who’s selling it, it doesn’t belong in the discussion forums.

Stallions – Board members may ask for suggestions on breeding stallion recommendations. Stallion owners may reply to such queries by suggesting their own stallions, only if their horse fits the specific criteria of the original poster. Excessive promotion of a stallion by its owner or related parties is not permitted and will be addressed at the discretion of the moderators.

Services – Members may use the forums to ask for general recommendations of trainers, barns, shippers, farriers, etc., and other members may answer those requests by suggesting themselves or their company, if their services fulfill the specific criteria of the original post. Members may not solicit other members for business if it is not in response to a direct, genuine query.

Products – While members may ask for general opinions and suggestions on equipment, trailers, trucks, etc., they may not list the specific attributes for which they are in the market, as such posts serve as wanted ads.

Event Announcements – Members may post one notification of an upcoming event that may be of interest to fellow members, if the original poster does not benefit financially from the event. Such threads may not be “bumped” excessively. Premium members may post their own notices in the Event Announcements forum.

Charities/Rescues – Announcements for charitable or fundraising events can only be made for 501(c)(3) tax-exempt organizations. Special exceptions may be made, at the moderators’ discretion and direction, for board-related events or fundraising activities in extraordinary circumstances.

Occasional posts regarding horses available for adoption through IRS-registered horse rescue or placement programs are permitted in the appropriate forums, but these threads may be limited at the discretion of the moderators. Individuals may not advertise or make announcements for horses in need of rescue, placement or adoption unless the horse is available through a recognized rescue or placement agency or government-run entity or the thread fits the criteria for and is located in the Giveaways forum.

5. Do not post copyrighted photographs unless you have purchased that photo and have permission to do so.

6. Respect other members.
As members are often passionate about their beliefs and intentions can easily be misinterpreted in this type of environment, try to explore or resolve the inevitable disagreements that arise in the course of threads calmly and rationally.

If you see a post that you feel violates the rules of the board, please click the “alert” button (exclamation point inside of a triangle) in the bottom left corner of the post, which will alert ONLY the moderators to the post in question. They will then take whatever action, or no action, as deemed appropriate for the situation at their discretion. Do not air grievances regarding other posters or the moderators in the discussion forums.

Please be advised that adding another user to your “Ignore” list via your User Control Panel can be a useful tactic, which blocks posts and private messages by members whose commentary you’d rather avoid reading.

7. We have the right to reproduce statements made in the forums.
The Chronicle of the Horse may copy, quote, link to or otherwise reproduce posts, or portions of posts, in print or online for advertising or editorial purposes, if attributed to their original authors, and by posting in this forum, you hereby grant to The Chronicle of the Horse a perpetual, non-exclusive license under copyright and other rights, to do so.

8. We reserve the right to enforce and amend the rules.
The moderators may delete, edit, move or close any post or thread at any time, or refrain from doing any of the foregoing, in their discretion, and may suspend or revoke a user’s membership privileges at any time to maintain adherence to the rules and the general spirit of the forum. These rules may be amended at any time to address the current needs of the board.

Please see our full Terms of Service and Privacy Policy for more information.

Thanks for being a part of the COTH forums!

(Revised 1/26/16)
See more
See less

Boarding a Stallion Advice needed

Collapse
X
  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts

  • #41
    No real advice other than DO look into your insurance coverage and make sure they will cover you as your property is set up now. My BO's insurance requires 6' fences for stallions. We have 5' fences so any stallions that come in for training have to be stalled while they are there.

    Comment


    • #42
      Originally posted by Stushica View Post
      So I've been looking for boarders for a while now and it seems I have the plague, no calls, no e-mails, nada. I understand what I'm asking is a hair high for the area, but not outrageous, really nice SMALL farm, and for the care provided, I can't do it any cheeper.

      Gentleman call today and asks if I board stallions... Honestly I never gave it much thought. I've boarded at barns with Studs and have handled and ridden a few and not had a whole lot of problems. The guy said that he's a halter horse and wants to saddle break him soon (I have a really nice 70ish ft wooden round pen), he's laid back and his teenage (19) daughter handles him no problem. He doesn’t want turn out since he works with him often (he's currently stalled) Stud is an arab. Guy sound laid back and nice too.

      One of my main concerns is liability, I'll be reading my contract over! and the LO has kids (9 and 14) that like to come pet the horses (are not allowed in stalls fences etc without me there)

      I have one large field and a smaller dry lot where the 2 mare (only other 2 horses there) spend most of their time because one i suspect is IR and the other can't handle the hormones in grass )

      For those of you with studs or people who board stallions, what are your thoughts? What special accommodations do you have to provide, special insurance? I don’t have an issue with stallions but I don’t want to make a hasty decision because I need a boarder.
      dont do it think- if you have mares on your property and he get with them then you are liable

      as most owners that have mares have that choice if they want to breed from them or not, most dont
      then if they dont they might op for baby to be aborted and the mare is at risk of dieing, or they opt to have the foal etc
      your liable as land owner for those cost as your the one that offered this stallion to be there with out proper facilities to cater for his needs

      why on earth do you think the bloke is ringing round yards cos the answer is no

      if hes young as in the arab- then say geld him if hes dropped if hes a colt and not dropped then you can possibly take him in but have that commitment from the man in writting as soon as he has he will have the operation to be gelded


      depending on his age----- if hes gelded he might still have stallion attitudes and when the mare come into season he will want to be with them

      be aware that any injuires occuring again are partly your fault

      stallions have to have at least 6ft fencing - and stabling on there own no where near mares at all

      and the stable has to be sufficant as beleive me if they want out they wil get out and agian damage is a a cost to yourself

      is it worth it------

      you think on mate put your clients your yard and your people 1st health and safety at all times
      as you could be facing - horses out and public liablity in straying, damage to fences stables, and horses plus people

      and kids sorry have to come 1st horses that need specific handling wont care about kids and nor will the man

      dont be gualible---------- read between the lines of what the man is saying

      think- if hes stalled at stud and wants to move and keep him entire whats wrong with said horse- hes only halter broken
      says a lot to me------------- hard to handle not easy and they have asked him to leave maybe

      dont be a plonker and put yourself your yard your easy life now at risk

      Comment


      • #43
        Originally posted by goeslikestink View Post
        dont do it think- if you have mares on your property and he get with them then you are liable

        as most owners that have mares have that choice if they want to breed from them or not, most dont
        then if they dont they might op for baby to be aborted and the mare is at risk of dieing, or they opt to have the foal etc
        your liable as land owner for those cost as your the one that offered this stallion to be there with out proper facilities to cater for his needs

        why on earth do you think the bloke is ringing round yards cos the answer is no

        if hes young as in the arab- then say geld him if hes dropped if hes a colt and not dropped then you can possibly take him in but have that commitment from the man in writting as soon as he has he will have the operation to be gelded


        depending on his age----- if hes gelded he might still have stallion attitudes and when the mare come into season he will want to be with them

        be aware that any injuires occuring again are partly your fault

        stallions have to have at least 6ft fencing - and stabling on there own no where near mares at all

        and the stable has to be sufficant as beleive me if they want out they wil get out and agian damage is a a cost to yourself

        is it worth it------

        you think on mate put your clients your yard and your people 1st health and safety at all times
        as you could be facing - horses out and public liablity in straying, damage to fences stables, and horses plus people

        and kids sorry have to come 1st horses that need specific handling wont care about kids and nor will the man

        dont be gualible---------- read between the lines of what the man is saying

        think- if hes stalled at stud and wants to move and keep him entire whats wrong with said horse- hes only halter broken
        says a lot to me------------- hard to handle not easy and they have asked him to leave maybe

        dont be a plonker and put yourself your yard your easy life now at risk
        Oh please. Stallions do not NEED 6 foot fencing (except in a few municipalities) they do not need to be kept no where near the mares.

        I was part of a co-op barn that also had a couple of full boarders. The one full boarder had a 3 year old Trak stallion. He got turned out with a gelding or two in the grass ring that was surrounded on all sides by the main turn-out field. The fencing was three board and just over 4 foot tall. There were 2 mares and 1 filly in the main field.
        He could be cross tied in front of the mares' stalls. He sometimes was in a stall next to the mare- it had a high solid wall between the stall and a grid in the front so they couldn't play face games.

        If he was taken to a show he was handled with a chain shank but that was not needed at the home farm. I sometimes handle my gelding at a show with a chain shank.

        Even after she moved him to her own farm and started breeding him he was always well behaved. One time I was moving him down the aisle to the cross ties and he arched his neck, dropped and talked to the mare. I growled at him a little, yanked on his halter to remind him of his manners and it was done. I then put him on the cross ties in between two mare and went and cleaned his stall. He fell asleep in the cross ties. Yes, he showed interest. Yes, I had to tell him pay attention to me but he complied quickly and I was comfortable enough to cross tie him in front of the mares and know he would behave.


        It all depends on the individual stallion.

        OP- I would talk to the current boarding barn and see if you can find out what the stallion is really like and whether the owners really come out and give him enough excercise on a daily basis. Obviously talk to your insurance to see if they have additional fees or requirements.
        Oh, well, clearly you're not thoroughly indoctrinated to COTH yet, because finger pointing and drawing conclusions are the cornerstones of this great online community. (Tidy Rabbit)

        Comment


        • #44
          Originally posted by SonnysMom View Post
          Oh please. Stallions do not NEED 6 foot fencing (except in a few municipalities) they do not need to be kept no where near the mares.
          The individual horse may not need 6 foot fencing but it's not uncommon for insurance policies to require it so it's important to look into the matter with your insurance agent.

          Comment


          • #45
            We do not board other people's stallions, but we have 6 of our own... It sounds weird to me that he says he does not need turnout. In my experience, a stallion absolutely must have at least a little bit of turn out. We have special stallion dry lots with 5' fences that have a strand of hot wire at the top.

            Also, a stallion's personality can completely change with a change of scenary so just seeing him and handling him at his current place does not mean that is how he will be at yours.
            Southern Cross Guest Ranch
            An All Inclusive Guest Ranch Vacation - Georgia

            Comment

            Working...
            X