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A tale of two persons... wwyd

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  • A tale of two persons... wwyd

    I was wondering what you all think is appropriate in this situation.

    Person A has horses that she doesn't have time to ride. She has a few that are appropriate for Person B to ride. Person B is excited to get saddle time and is eager to ride them. Person B isn't getting paid to ride, it's just a mutually agreeable situation.

    Now Person B has discovered that she doesn't really enjoy riding one of the horses. Said horse is fine and nice, just not for her. This horse does need exercise, but Person B has a hard time getting up the motivation to ride it, and then it makes her not want to ride at all. Person B only has time for 1 horse per day, so riding the horse she doesn't like means she isn't able to ride one that she does enjoy.

    Is Person B obligated to ride this horse? Person A is very nice about letting her ride, so should Person B just suck it up and ride the horse she doesn't enjoy every other day? Is it reasonable for Person A to expect Person B to ride the not so fun horse because she's giving her the chance to ride the fun one?

    What do you all think?

  • #2
    If Person A needs Person B to exercise Horse B, then I think Person B needs to do it. If it does not matter to Person A whether Horse B gets ridden or not, then Person B is off the hook.


    • #3
      Person B should consider riding the one she's not fond of to be her giant " THANK YOU" for getting the opportunity to ride the one she does like. For free.
      "Aye God, Woodrow..."


      • #4
        Originally posted by Long Spot View Post
        Person B should consider riding the one she's not fond of to be her giant " THANK YOU" for getting the opportunity to ride the one she does like. For free.
        I second this^.


        • Original Poster



          • #6
            Ellemayo I thought you were buying your own horse???

            Riding horse "B" will make you a better rider!!!!!


            • Original Poster

              JBRP I sent you a PM


              • #8
                Just because horse #1 is no fun to ride, doesn't mean it should not be worked. This is a great opportunity for Person B to learn and gain more experience ground driving. Lots can be done on the ground and within a 30-40 min time frame.

                So, ride horse #2, ground drive horse #1 and everyone gets worked and everyone is happy!


                • #9
                  If, over the past 25 years, I had only ridden the horses I liked, I'd be half the rider I am today.
                  Barn rat for life


                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Long Spot View Post
                    Person B should consider riding the one she's not fond of to be her giant " THANK YOU" for getting the opportunity to ride the one she does like. For free.
                    Born under a rock and owned by beasts!


                    • #11

                      Originally posted by wcporter View Post
                      If, over the past 25 years, I had only ridden the horses I liked, I'd be half the rider I am today.
                      Unless the horse she doesn't like is unsafe, she needs to ride both horses.

                      Yep, big cosmic "thank you" for getting to ride.


                      • #12
                        In general, I agree that she needs to ride both.

                        The only caveat is that she dislikes horse B so much that she's avoiding riding, maybe taking shorter rides on him, maybe riding less well than she could, or the rides are such that it's clear both rider and horse are miserable and counting the minutes -- then she needs to go talk to the owner (and expect both horses will get pulled).

                        Because the reality is that if the owner comes out and finds a miserable rider on a miserable horse, or learns rides on horse B are moving into perfunctory/going-through-the-motions territory, both horses are going to be pulled anyway.

                        And with a lot more bad feeling than if the rider approached the owner honestly.

                        But if it's not going in that direction and the rider is being responsible and just prefers to only ride the one horse? Suck it up. Catch riders ride what they can catch. Even when it's a mutually agreeable situation, the catch rider is not paying the bills and they need the ride more than the owner needs them (there are lots of people who want to ride... not so many -- especially these days -- who can pay the bills).


                        • Original Poster

                          Well, Person A (We'll call her owner from now on that makes much more sense) is aware that Person B (rider) doesn't really enjoy riding the horse. Owner encourages the rider to ride both horses, but definitely knows that the rider prefers one over the other.

                          Owner is a professional horsewoman who typically pays someone to exercise said horses. (horses that are not upper level material) However, rider just happens to be around and happy to ride.

                          In general I agree with the assessment that the rider should ride the horse, even if it's not her preference. It will make her a better rider.
                          Thanks for your input!


                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Long Spot View Post
                            Person B should consider riding the one she's not fond of to be her giant " THANK YOU" for getting the opportunity to ride the one she does like. For free.
                            This!! I would LOVE to have some horses to ride "for free" and am completely honest when I say I will ride anything that is reasonably safe - it's all experience!

                            I worked at a ranch one summer, and there were definitely horses I wasn't super enthusiastic about, but I'd always ride them anyway, unless safety becomes a serious issue, or it is obvious another wrangler is better suited to the horses needs. In those cases my bosses usually figured it out before I did, but in some situations I still rode horses I didn't love, or even like that much.

                            This is like a job for Person B in that the riding is payment, so Person B should ride both horses and not complain about it. I am sure Person A could find someone else to ride.
                            "Choose to chance the rapids, and dare to dance the tides" - Garth Brooks
                            "With your permission, dear, I'll take my fences one at a time" - Maggie Smith, Downton Abbey