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So did Satan himself design this bit, or just one of his lackeys?

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    Originally posted by europa View Post
    You see, at those times when the U.S. Department of Agriculture can spare an inspector to attend a Walking Horse competition, violations can be 10 times as numerous as when the industry regulates itself. In 2006, with USDA on hand to oversee industry inspectors, the entire event unraveled.

    This year, with inspectors hired by show management conducting the examinations, HSUS observers watched horses react in pain upon inspection and still be allowed to compete. Handlers held horses during inspections in a manner prohibited under federal regulation. Numerous other regulations were repeatedly violated. Despite a promise to limit the number of handlers in the warm-up area, as many as seven people tended to a single horse as the competition neared an end.



    READING COMPREHENSION= F
    Are you done yet?

    PLAYING WELL WITH OTHERS = F!

    As for the BIT IN THE ORIGINAL TOPIC, I don't quite understand even the point of 5 rings, except that I guess you could change level of leverage really quickly? But really, why would one need that? Changing out bits doesn't take THAT much time?
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    • I didn't start it.

      I apologize but I get furious about animal abuse.

      Nun Ya I was not implying you mistreated your horses....I just got very angry. It is not reserved for only padded TWH...it extends to Halter QHs on steroids also.
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      the horse jumps in pursuit of it.

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      • Originally posted by europa View Post
        You see, at those times when the U.S. Department of Agriculture can spare an inspector to attend a Walking Horse competition, violations can be 10 times as numerous as when the industry regulates itself. In 2006, with USDA on hand to oversee industry inspectors, the entire event unraveled.

        This year, with inspectors hired by show management conducting the examinations, HSUS observers watched horses react in pain upon inspection and still be allowed to compete. Handlers held horses during inspections in a manner prohibited under federal regulation. Numerous other regulations were repeatedly violated. Despite a promise to limit the number of handlers in the warm-up area, as many as seven people tended to a single horse as the competition neared an end.



        READING COMPREHENSION= F

        This will be my last post on this with you and then I am done......

        Your READING COMPREHENSION earns you an - F as well


        This article was written last year... not this.

        Lost cause

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        • Originally posted by europa View Post
          I didn't start it.

          I apologize but I get furious about animal abuse.

          Nun Ya I was not implying you mistreated your horses....I just got very angry. It is not reserved for only padded TWH...it extends to Halter QHs on steroids also.
          Lets just call it truce for now and get over it. We have made a poop thread over this and I am sorry.

          I will also apologize to you as well if I offended you in anyway. I am over it.
          Last edited by Nun Ya; Sep. 11, 2008, 05:17 PM.

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          • errrr ... "call a truce"?

            BTW, a guy was just in here and we got to talking about gaited horses (don't know how) and he mentioned his family raising TWHs, then he mentioned padded shoes, fiberglass shoes bolted onto the horse's hooves. I wanted so much to say something, but what? This is work. He himself doesn't raise the horses. But to have someone standing here admitting to knowing people who do that to their horses, as if it's just OK ...

            I know, I know, I should've said something ...
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            • Originally posted by Wellspotted View Post
              errrr ... "call a truce"?
              ahhhhhhhh I didn't even realize what I typed!!!!! My bad, it has been a long day.

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              • Originally posted by sublimequine View Post

                As for the BIT IN THE ORIGINAL TOPIC, I don't quite understand even the point of 5 rings, except that I guess you could change level of leverage really quickly? But really, why would one need that? Changing out bits doesn't take THAT much time?
                It just looks cool.

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                • Originally posted by Nun Ya View Post
                  I am not the one on here saying I have seen these pictures if there are pictures of this ............ show me.
                  Nice try. You saw the pictures 3 years ago just like everybody else did. You made some stink about the idea that it wasn't "really" blood and that if it was the horse probably bit his tongue or something. Maybe he did? Who knows. But the point was that apparently other people have seen bloody mouths too and that wasn't the first time it's been seen. That is the only time I have "personally" seen it except on my own horse when she came to me with 2 bleeding bit sores from an improperly fitted curb bit.

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                  • AV2 - I went to your site and was appalled. I don't ride saddleseat, and I do appreciate there is abuse at all levels in all disciplines, so I'm not pointing fingers.

                    But I just don't understand. I thought the whole idea was that horses are capable of moving pretty fabulously without us on their backs, and the whole idea was to have them be balanced, and relaxed and capable, given that they now have 150 odd pounds of human atop. I genuinely don't get it - in any discipline - what the appeal is. What's so appealing about the high action? or the exaggerated position (like rollkur)? I am not asking this in a snide way - just honestly confused. What's the point of it all? Knowing that some of these things cause so much pain?
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                    • Originally posted by Nun Ya View Post
                      How do we know your horses are the most spoiled on earth??? Because you say so??
                      Well then ok.

                      You can come to my barn any day, any time and I would love for you to show me the errors of my ways.
                      Here is what you just don't get - you never have - and apparently you never will.

                      YOU personally might not own padded horses, and YOUR personal horses might be the most pampered spoiled creatures on the planet. But that does NOT dismiss all the other fruit loops within your chosen discipline/breed who abuse horses because their daddy done did it and they gonna done did it too bless jesus.

                      You sent me a photo one time of one of your horses - a gorgeous palamino. Lovely horse. No sign at all of any soring or mistreatment. In good flesh, lovely shiny coat, looked happy, good fitting halter. But that is ONE HORSE in this entire stinking industry.

                      You keep making excuses for all these idiot horse abusers that don't have two brain cells to rub together, like they were old high school buddies. Why?? Can you not see the abuse for yourself and call a spade a spade?

                      When I read the Welfare of the Horse Committee reports of endurance horse deaths due to negligence on the horse owner/riders part, I am sickened. Apalled. Pissed off. I own an endurance horse and she's getting time off right now because she was diagnosed with gastric ulcers via gastroscopy. I care about my horse and I want to do the best thing for her that I can. But SOME people within the endurance horse industry don't have sense enough to pour piss out of a boot. I can call a spade a spade, and so can you. But you DON'T.

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                      • Originally posted by sublimequine View Post
                        Well this has digressed into a big poo-slinging match, hasn't it? Nice, folks.

                        Shall we challenge ourselves to go back to the original topic, that had barely ANYTHING to do with walking horses? Sheesh!
                        I has EVERYTHING to do with walking horses, because what you posted is a WALKING HORSE BIT. Look at the home page of the website you posted - padded walking horse, right there on the home page. And the verbiage says they make bits for the walking horses industry. I'd say that pretty much makes it about walking horses.

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                          Originally posted by Auventera Two View Post
                          I has EVERYTHING to do with walking horses, because what you posted is a WALKING HORSE BIT. Look at the home page of the website you posted - padded walking horse, right there on the home page. And the verbiage says they make bits for the walking horses industry. I'd say that pretty much makes it about walking horses.
                          This not the "Let's watch A2 go on a tirade" thread. This is a "holy crap that's a scary bit" thread. I don't care what it's used for, I was sharing it because I've never seen anything like it before. All disciplines, or at least most of them, will have "WHAT THE HECK?!" bits like this one. The fact that this bit's a walking horse bit is just a coincidence.

                          Are you going to just continue ranting off topic, or are you going to just drop it and MOVE ON? Sheesh. If you wanna sit there and just yell, go make your own thread about it and stop clogging up mine!

                          Ambrey; Maybe you're right. The bunch of rings looks different than just long as heck shanks, so maybe that's the appeal? Who knows!
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                          • I do know that if I even tried to put that in my horse's mouth and use it...well, I wouldn't blame him for anything he tried to do to me after that.
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                              Originally posted by DressageGeek "Ribbon Ho" View Post
                              I do know that if I even tried to put that in my horse's mouth and use it...well, I wouldn't blame him for anything he tried to do to me after that.
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                              • Originally posted by Nun Ya View Post
                                So lets get this straight "girlfriend" ..... Your telling me that this person will not let you view proofs?? You have to pay to get a password or whatever in order to veiw proofs of pictures taken with the intention to sell ...........photos. This is a little hard to grasp.
                                Let's get this straight.

                                IT'S YOU'RE. NOT YOUR!

                                As in, I guess you're one of the people who think it's okay to stick a bit with 10+ inch shanks and a god awful mouthpeice in a horse's mouth?

                                Justfy that, will you, because I sure can't.
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                                • Original Poster

                                  Originally posted by kookicat View Post
                                  Let's get this straight.

                                  IT'S YOU'RE. NOT YOUR!

                                  As in, I guess you're one of the people who think it's okay to stick a bit with 10+ inch shanks and a god awful mouthpeice in a horse's mouth?

                                  Justfy that, will you, because I sure can't.
                                  That's a good point. Is there ANY time, EVER, that this bit would be justified?

                                  I sure can't think of anything remotely close to justifying that bit.
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                                  • Originally posted by sublimequine View Post
                                    That's a good point. Is there ANY time, EVER, that this bit would be justified?

                                    I sure can't think of anything remotely close to justifying that bit.
                                    That's exactly the point.

                                    It's not about the entire walking horse industry, it's about whichever people would use a bit like this. If nobody bought them, they wouldn't make them. So people IN THE WALKING HORSE WORLD need to call it out.

                                    They use these things in SHOWS???

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                                    • Original Poster

                                      Originally posted by Ambrey View Post
                                      That's exactly the point.

                                      It's not about the entire walking horse industry, it's about whichever people would use a bit like this. If nobody bought them, they wouldn't make them. So people IN THE WALKING HORSE WORLD need to call it out.

                                      They use these things in SHOWS???
                                      This is an honest question, but don't they have like rules for what bits are legal and not legal in the gaited world? I can't imagine that bit would be legal under any rules..
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                                      • Originally posted by Nun Ya View Post
                                        I am not the one on here saying I have seen these pictures if there are pictures of this ............ show me.
                                        Again...

                                        CAN-NOT-SHOW-PICTURES-THEY-ARE-NOT-AVAILABLE-PUBLICALLY-ON-THE-INTERNET-ANYMORE.

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                                        • Originally posted by sublimequine View Post
                                          This is an honest question, but don't they have like rules for what bits are legal and not legal in the gaited world? I can't imagine that bit would be legal under any rules..
                                          There were photos of horses posing for ribbons in one! Maybe a different mouthpiece, but same huge shanks.

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