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  • #81
    Originally posted by SuperSTB View Post
    Actually it's true- the photos were posted online a couple years ago. There was plenty of comment- nice and not so nice posted on several equine boards regarding them. (ears, eyes, blood in saliva) The photographer decided to pull the photos into a private album. And 3 yrs later she might not even have them online anymore as it cost money for the space and Professionals usually have time limits.

    My hubby is a professional photographer and he sets up private galleries/album for clients all the time. Because of the quantity of jobs he has- he keep albums online for 2yrs before pulling them down. So if clients want 'archived' photos they have to request them by CD or DVD rom.

    Thats all fine and dandy my point is why don't A2 show me any picture of a horse with blood in his/her mouth? A walking horse that is. From any website, from any photographer or any home snap shot. Especially since it is so common to see according to her.

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    • #82
      Nun Ya
      Just tell me how often you clean your horses stall?
      How large are the pads on your horses feet?

      Oh and.....have you finally gotten your horse broken yet that bucks everyone off..... I think we found the bit for you. Maybe he is telling you something about your horsemanship abilities since they are soo much better then ours! GEESH

      Why don't you stop discounting everything everyone is saying which I am sure is true of most TWH people who show and get over it. Have another screwdriver!
      The rider casts his heart over the fence,
      the horse jumps in pursuit of it.

      –Hans-Heinrich Isenbart

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      • #83
        Originally posted by Nun Ya View Post
        Thats all fine and dandy my point is why don't A2 show me any picture of a horse with blood in his/her mouth? A walking horse that is. From any website, from any photographer or any home snap shot. Especially since it is so common to see according to her.
        Well you can just as easily try and do a search for TWH pictures as well.

        I think you missed the point where both she and I said that the particular photo is NO LONGER ACCESSIBLE. I've seen the photo (actually there were a couple) when it was online 3 years ago linked on a thread from another equine bulletin board.

        Many of the photos that particular photographer posted were 'raw' images ie unaltered. The photographer had the option for event participants to purchase photos that were edited.. ie for color, ear position, crop, etc... Again a common service provided by photographers.

        Along the subject of photography- most professionals will showcase edited photos- not 'raw' images. I in particular (noting the close involvement with my husband's business) though it a bit unusual that this particular photographer, while she had decent shots, put them online with limited to no watermarks, raw photos, and by public viewing.

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        • #84
          Give it up guys, you're talking to someone who apparently wants to believe what we speak of isn't happening, they just want to "turn the other cheek" and pretend it's not happening.

          I really don't think you've been around any walking horse barns or shows the way YOU are speaking.

          Too many people against it, it is WRONG and CRUEL. Period.
          I want a signature but I have nothing original to say except: "STHU and RIDE!!!

          Wonderful COTHER's I've met: belleellis, stefffic, snkstacres and janedoe726.

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          • #85
            Originally posted by talkofthetown View Post
            So that's a uh, 5 ring elevator??

            Jeez.

            Seriously though, is that a mule bit?
            No not a mule bit or at least not a bit that my mule would agree to anyway..she prefers a plain snaffle or french link bit..

            my walking horse goes in a tender touch bit, nothing like the bit in the pic.

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            • #86
              Originally posted by europa View Post
              Nun Ya
              Just tell me how often you clean your horses stall?
              How large are the pads on your horses feet?

              Oh and.....have you finally gotten your horse broken yet that bucks everyone off..... I think we found the bit for you. Maybe he is telling you something about your horsemanship abilities since they are soo much better then ours! GEESH

              Why don't you stop discounting everything everyone is saying which I am sure is true of most TWH people who show and get over it. Have another screwdriver!
              First of all I do not have any padded horses. Thank you anyway. AND DO NOT QUESTION THE CARE I GIVE MY HORSES. My horses are well taken care of. How about yours????

              The horse I had that a problem to break is doing fine and why don't you come over sometime. I'd love for you to take a ride.

              Get your facts straight, and quick. I do not pro claim to be some great horse trainer nor have I ever said I had great horsemanship abilities but I will tell you real fast that I show deep in Twh country and all around and when people hoop and hollar about things I know are wrong, I will speak up.

              I discount what everyone is saying about walkers because it is not true and most of these people have never been anywhere near a padded or nor do I care if they ever will be but I do not think it is fair for a bunch of people to bash on something in which they have no knowledge, experience, or anything but a picture to go on .... oh maybe they read something on the internet and now think they somehow used to be involved in the industry until blah blah blah. Our horses are over 98% within compliance. They have went through every inspection known to man, especially at this years Celebration and they are still showing. Why is that??? because they are compliant, things are not the way they were in the 60's, the industry and the people within the industry have went to great lenghts to get our horses at this 98% and still people a jacking their jaw.

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              • #87
                Originally posted by SuperSTB View Post
                Well you can just as easily try and do a search for TWH pictures as well.

                I think you missed the point where both she and I said that the particular photo is NO LONGER ACCESSIBLE. I've seen the photo (actually there were a couple) when it was online 3 years ago linked on a thread from another equine bulletin board.

                Many of the photos that particular photographer posted were 'raw' images ie unaltered. The photographer had the option for event participants to purchase photos that were edited.. ie for color, ear position, crop, etc... Again a common service provided by photographers.

                Along the subject of photography- most professionals will showcase edited photos- not 'raw' images. I in particular (noting the close involvement with my husband's business) though it a bit unusual that this particular photographer, while she had decent shots, put them online with limited to no watermarks, raw photos, and by public viewing.
                I am not the one on here saying I have seen these pictures if there are pictures of this ............ show me.

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                • #88
                  Nun Ya, even I know TWH who were padded at two years old, and I live in ALBERTA. They are practically a rare breed here. And I've sure as hell seen them ridden in doubles...and in at least three of those RECENT SHOW PHOTOS, the riders were smack down on the horse's kidneys. Maybe relax a little.

                  That aside, it has nothing to do with that bit we were talking about...and someone DID manage to find that bit in use on a TWH. We are allowed to find it offensive, you haven't given ANY information that proves the contrary.

                  They'd likely take your head off your shoulders and hand it back to you on a garbage can lid. Maybe some of these walking horses need to do the same
                  I'm going to stand by this one...even the showiest, most hyperactive TWH is still a tractable, tolerant horse of the highest order. When I retire and desire a nice, smooth mover (over my, ummm, less smooth Clyde) I am definitely getting a TWH! Such sweethearts, all the ones I've met.
                  Lifestyle coordinator for Zora, Spooky, Wolfgang and Warrior

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                  • #89
                    PULEZZZZZZZZZZZZ

                    You didn't answer my question.
                    I own the MOST spoiled horses on earth so you can direct that crap elsewhere.

                    For someone who shows alot according to your own words you are in total denial. I have yet to visit ONE barn with TWHS that didn't have some sketchy practices at best. So that is the norm and not the exception.

                    Invite me over and I will point yours out....I am sure that it won't be hard.

                    You got me mad now. It is just ridiculous to argue this with someone who has blinders on...thought those were for racing only.

                    At least your horses are not padded....that is all I can say. And Celebration is soo totally corrupt it is ridiculous.
                    The rider casts his heart over the fence,
                    the horse jumps in pursuit of it.

                    –Hans-Heinrich Isenbart

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                    • #90
                      http://www.hsus.org/horses_equines/t...ing_horse.html

                      HA HA...they hired their own inspectors....GEESH
                      Nope no corruption there.
                      The rider casts his heart over the fence,
                      the horse jumps in pursuit of it.

                      –Hans-Heinrich Isenbart

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                      • #91
                        Originally posted by europa View Post
                        PULEZZZZZZZZZZZZ

                        You didn't answer my question.
                        I own the MOST spoiled horses on earth so you can direct that crap elsewhere.

                        For someone who shows alot according to your own words you are in total denial. I have yet to visit ONE barn with TWHS that didn't have some sketchy practices at best. So that is the norm and not the exception.

                        Invite me over and I will point yours out....I am sure that it won't be hard.

                        You got me mad now. It is just ridiculous to argue this with someone who has blinders on...thought those were for racing only.

                        At least your horses are not padded....that is all I can say. And Celebration is soo totally corrupt it is ridiculous.
                        How do we know your horses are the most spoiled on earth??? Because you say so??
                        Well then ok.

                        You can come to my barn any day, any time and I would love for you to show me the errors of my ways.

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                        • #92
                          Originally posted by europa View Post
                          http://www.hsus.org/horses_equines/t...ing_horse.html

                          HA HA...they hired their own inspectors....GEESH
                          Nope no corruption there.
                          NO 1: did you look at the date on your article???

                          No 2: They who????????? Do you think we ( the owners and trainers) get to
                          hire the DQP'S AND USDA???

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                          • #93
                            yeah...last year...I am sure they have cleaned it all up now.

                            ROLLIN EYES

                            I also looked at the 2008 pics....BOY THOSE HORSES LOOK HAPPY

                            HA HA
                            The rider casts his heart over the fence,
                            the horse jumps in pursuit of it.

                            –Hans-Heinrich Isenbart

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                            • #94
                              YOU JUST DON'T GET IT DO YA

                              THE SHOW MANAGEMENT (TERM USED LOOSELY) HIRED THEM>>>>>>AND THEY DID SUCH A FINE JOB ON THEIR GOLF CARTS

                              Did you read the article per chance?

                              I guess none of us "KNOW" what we are talking about. I feel so plum ignorant.
                              The rider casts his heart over the fence,
                              the horse jumps in pursuit of it.

                              –Hans-Heinrich Isenbart

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                              • #95
                                Your article is from some tree hugging PETA freak and articles like that
                                are a dime a dozen. The horses are not beaten, sored, sad, scared
                                mistreated or whatever else you would say.

                                My advise to you or anyone else for that matter is to go to the Celebration
                                and watch and see for yourself. You can go to all the barns during the day
                                and walk the grounds at the show that evening, you can watch the horses being
                                inspected and tell me that this still goes on. If it were true........ there would not be any horse shows.

                                BUT ......... we have treaded way off subject and I am sorry for that. I tend to
                                get fired up, and right now I am finished . But when A2 starts her bull**** I just spaz out.

                                My point earlier was yes these bits are sometimes used in TWH shows but they are not the worst on the market. Do I use them? No, but I have ridden horses who have. Yes all my horses wear shanked bits but nothing quite that extreame.

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                                  #96
                                  Well this has digressed into a big poo-slinging match, hasn't it? Nice, folks.

                                  Shall we challenge ourselves to go back to the original topic, that had barely ANYTHING to do with walking horses? Sheesh!
                                  Tell a Gelding. Ask a Stallion. Discuss it with a Mare... Pray if it's a Pony!

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                                  • #97
                                    Originally posted by europa View Post
                                    YOU JUST DON'T GET IT DO YA

                                    THE SHOW MANAGEMENT (TERM USED LOOSELY) HIRED THEM>>>>>>AND THEY DID SUCH A FINE JOB ON THEIR GOLF CARTS

                                    Did you read the article per chance?

                                    I guess none of us "KNOW" what we are talking about. I feel so plum ignorant.
                                    If you think this is fact you are soooooooo off key. The USDA attend the Celebration everyyear and show management has nothing to do with hiring them. I think you are the one who just don't get it. I love how people think we hire our own DQP'S.

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                                    • #98
                                      Originally posted by sublimequine View Post
                                      Well this has digressed into a big poo-slinging match, hasn't it? Nice, folks.

                                      Shall we challenge ourselves to go back to the original topic, that had barely ANYTHING to do with walking horses? Sheesh!
                                      I am mostly to blame for this and I am sorry.

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                                        #99
                                        Originally posted by Nun Ya View Post
                                        I am mostly to blame for this and I am sorry.
                                        No prob. Let's just move onnnnn.
                                        Tell a Gelding. Ask a Stallion. Discuss it with a Mare... Pray if it's a Pony!

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                                        • You see, at those times when the U.S. Department of Agriculture can spare an inspector to attend a Walking Horse competition, violations can be 10 times as numerous as when the industry regulates itself. In 2006, with USDA on hand to oversee industry inspectors, the entire event unraveled.

                                          This year, with inspectors hired by show management conducting the examinations, HSUS observers watched horses react in pain upon inspection and still be allowed to compete. Handlers held horses during inspections in a manner prohibited under federal regulation. Numerous other regulations were repeatedly violated. Despite a promise to limit the number of handlers in the warm-up area, as many as seven people tended to a single horse as the competition neared an end.



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                                          The rider casts his heart over the fence,
                                          the horse jumps in pursuit of it.

                                          –Hans-Heinrich Isenbart

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