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    Curse You Blue Binder Twine!!

    I hate the blue binder twine we are now seeing on hay bales. I am not sure why, but EVERY BALE has these little 2-3" pieces cut off the strings. Ususally 2 or 4 small pieces just laying there by the knots. I have to then PICK UP or pick off, those little pieces to prevent them being eaten by the livestock!!

    I find the little pieces EVERYPLACE, even after I THINK I did good job cleaning them up. By their bright color, I spot them in all kinds of locations where I never fed hay, out in the field, down the lane, mowing. Sometimes there are only a couple of fibers to pick up, other times you get the whole short piece of binder twine.

    Talking to friends, they are also having the problem with the short cuts of twine, but ONLY THE BLUE stuff! Orange or red plastic twine NEVER leaves the short pieces in hay. Doesn't seem to matter the make or model of baler, they ALL get the short pieces of BLUE twine on the bales. Whatever the setting of tightness, those #*^* short pieces of blue twine are getting left on the bales.

    Husband and his farmer friends think the blue twine stretches differently than the other colors in binding the hay in the baler. Fibers seem a bit smaller, so maybe blue twine is stretchier. Stretch then is making baler cut blue twine twice in making the bales, if that makes sense. That is their idea.

    We were only able to find hay this year with blue twine AGAIN, so I will be picking up the little pieces all winter. One new supplier used BABY BLUE twine, so that will be harder to find than the bright blue stuff, but his bales all had the little pieces too. I see the blue twine is a couple dollars less expensive than the other colors at the farm store, so farmers are "saving a buck" by using the blue twines. Probably adds up in costs, if they do a lot of hay.

    Just that having to pick up all those short pieces is such a pain. I had a 5 gallon bucket full of some chaff and short twine pieces just from the hay fed inside the barn! The outside little twine pieces went into my pockets as I find them, then into trash, so they didn't get added to the quantity from the bucket.

    So fair warning, if you have purchased bales with the blue twine holding them together. Keep an eye out for those short cuts of twine in hay you are feeding. I see the short twine as a colic issue in the future, if not kept picked out of the hay.

    Maybe if we all cursed the blue twine at once while we are angry, it might disappear!

    #2
    I get those with orange poly twine bales, as well as the sisal variety.
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      #3
      Don't blame the Blue

      Curse the Baler!

      I've found short pieces of orange twine in the occasional bale.
      Like you, I remove them, but now & then a piece eludes me & I find it in uneaten (TG!) hay.

      FWIW:
      I got a load of blue-twined bales a couple years ago and did not notice any increase in the shorties.
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        #4
        Maybe it is a Michigan thing! Those short blue pieces are a real common topic of discussion these days among the horse folks. Everyone is complaining about having to pick up ALL those extra cuts.

        Again, seems to happen on all makes of balers, because we HAVE tried pointing fingers in finding the cause of the problem! We want something to blame!! All kinds of balers making the short cuts, both old and new balers, various models within a brand name. So no EXACT reason found yet.

        Yeah, I have seen a VERY FEW little cuts from both the sisal and orange twines, over the years. I wouldn't mind a FEW cuts on a load of hay. Other folks say the same, just a short piece now and again with other twines, sisal, orange, handling lots of bales. This blue twine problem is on EVERY BALE.

        Guess I am glad that at least the color makes the problem quite visible for picking the pieces up!

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          #5
          Not just Michigan and not just blue. I'm in Maryland and have bales with bright yellow twine ... same problem with little cut bits in the bales.

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            #6
            We rarely see the blue...mostly the sisal in hay color or green hay color. And it does the same, near the knot is often a 1-2" piece leftover that I pick off and stuff in my pocket. Because we all know a horse can and will get hurt on invisible imaginary things...

            Finding them in the same color as the hay is especially fun. Not. Although your eyes get kind of "trained" to spot what's NOT hay on your hay.
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            Hold onto the bridle!
            Jump in the line!
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              #7
              It's an OR thing, too, plus the orange once in a while. Well, I thought it was only me who was having this problem.

              Our hay guy is starting to have financial problems (fewer people buying hay because of fewer horses around) and I am wondering if the blue stuff is cheaper to bale with than the heftier stuff. He's cutting costs the best he can to stay competitive but we've been warned about our hay supply sometime later in the year or early next year.
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                #8
                The problem is really with the knotters - every time you change string from one manufacturer to another, you have to readjust the knotters and tension. The short bits are because the knotters make a huge loop and the knives cut that loop off instead of gong through the loop and cutting it and the string for the next knot. This also leads to untied bales and long strings stuck in bales.
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                  #9
                  Well, this is a very strange mystery. I also notice it more with the blue, but maybe because it is easier to see?

                  On a related topic, I typically save the green twine for tying up flowers, but ran out this year and had to use the blue. Not pretty! I'm hoping the green twine shows up again by next summer.

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                    #10
                    I've noticed that too! Always the blue! I typically get wired bales though but almost every blue or purple twine I've seen just flaked off.
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                      #11
                      Well we see the little bright blue pieces here in Jersey too!
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                        #12
                        California here - The hay I buy has two blue strings and one white - no problems with little bits of string.
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                          #13
                          The hay supplier for the barn I work at, for four years the hay was baled with blue twine. I find the small blue pieces in every couple bales, I pick them out, but sometimes some fall through the cracks. The horses avoid them pretty well.
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                            #14
                            Stupid question...

                            But does the color of twine mean anything other than likely the brand/heft whatever of twine and the baler's preference?
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                              #15
                              I just got my first load with blue twine. I have noticed the short pieces,too.

                              I will tell my employee to look out for them also. UGH!

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                                #16
                                Never seen hay with blue string, but I get those pieces with the orange all the time.

                                See it sometimes with the green too.

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                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by Long Spot View Post
                                  Stupid question...

                                  But does the color of twine mean anything other than likely the brand/heft whatever of twine and the baler's preference?
                                  Different brands. nothing more that I have found. I know I had a bitch of a time with the baler when I hadda change brands because they were outta the orange stuff and ended up with sisal. Never did get the knotters, knives and tensioners right for that stuff. Horrible messes.
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                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by kcmel View Post
                                    Well, this is a very strange mystery. I also notice it more with the blue, but maybe because it is easier to see?

                                    On a related topic, I typically save the green twine for tying up flowers, but ran out this year and had to use the blue. Not pretty! I'm hoping the green twine shows up again by next summer.
                                    If you really want green twine, I will mail you some. Seriously. We feed 14 tons a week. We have baling twine coming out our ears

                                    We get orange, green, yellow and sisal, but we only use 4x4s or large rounds which have been coming netted. I hate the net as it traps birds.

                                    My husband now asks what color twine I want brought up to the house, since it depends on what holiday I am decorating for.
                                    Originally posted by The Saddle
                                    Perhaps I need my flocking adjusted.

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                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by sk_pacer View Post
                                      The problem is really with the knotters - every time you change string from one manufacturer to another, you have to readjust the knotters and tension. The short bits are because the knotters make a huge loop and the knives cut that loop off instead of gong through the loop and cutting it and the string for the next knot. This also leads to untied bales and long strings stuck in bales.
                                      Thanks for the education.
                                      I always wondered how a whole long piece of twine got into a bale w/o fouling the baling machinery.

                                      With my non-farm CityGirl background I am amazed at the way machinery does things - like baling hay and cutting corn & beans.
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                                      Steppin' Out 1988-2004
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                                        #20
                                        My son informed me that it happens when the knot is being tied and it happens on square balers. Color has nothing to do with it.. My 800 pound square bales have them too in both orange and blue twine. My horses don't eat them.

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